G. David Felt

Very interesting points made, It is sad to see people think they have freedom being on a phone or computer and not getting out to see this amazing planet we live on. Sad commentary of the Y Generation. This tends to tell me that Big Brother has won in telling you where to live, what to do, what to see and generally how to live life when people are not willing to get out and see the world. The experiance of seeing the world in person cannot and never will be made up from being in front of a computer.

H'mmmmmm Am I the only one that sees this as a BAD thing? At least in my web search of how the company's did under LaSorda's controll, he does not have that great of a track record. How does a guy that has a track record of burning through cash and building so so auto's get onto a new company like this. Wish someone would pay me bunches of bucks to build so so products and not be responsible.

Except for small Diesel cars for other than NA markets, I am having a hard time finding any reason for this. It will be interesting to see why they would do this.

Interesting Engineering Exercise, but otherwise useless auto that the police would never let on the road. Reminds me of how they have coupled engines in off shore racing boats. Jeers, they should have completed the nose as everyone else has stated. this is a half ass effort.

PitchFork

I have to say this is one ugly turd of an auto. Yes there are clear hints at the BMW body style, but it does not mesh well with the freakin ugly front on this car. I hope the interior is nice as the exterior gets an F for Failure in my book.

Thing 1 & Thing 2

I have nothing against this viewpoint of the writting, I just disagree with in what some call fog lights or what I call them as Perimeter lights. The ford he has listed above I do not find as a fair example as the Ford web site does not have any fog lights listed for this auto, the lights show above are referred to by the web site as safety lights. I think this is Fords version of DayTime running lights

I understand the point you are making, but very few auto's have active headlights, only a couple that I can think of off the top of my head. Most cars and tucks have traditional headlights and so called Fog Lights. To me, the should be talking about the safety of perimeter lights with their traditional lights for better vision while driving and safety of being seen.

Should be a good competitor to the CTS-V wagoon.

I find this write up very interesting and will no doubt end up being very debatable. I have read and heard all thse issues brought up many times that it begs the question, does G.Noble even drive a car in any other condition than in a city where I do agree most 3rd party fog lights are installed wrong and end up being additional glare in the face of drivers coming towards you? Fog lights installed properly to highlight the road on a snowy pass at night or even a back country road helps out greatly in letting you know your close perimeter. Head lights will never be good at illuminating the closest 10 feet in front of your auto and then also still light up 50 to 100 feet down the road. Spend any time driving the highways going through various weather and you will find that the so called Fog lights do server a very important function for lighting up things close to the auto. Fog Lights will probably stay the naming choice for marketing when in reality these are perimeter lights. Yes like many I hate the so called rear single fog light on Audi, BMW, MB, etc. It makes you think they have a bulb burning out. Yet the so called Fog lights installed properly on a SUV in the back and front help out greatly when manuvering around in tight areas and not to mention lighting up the world in reverse. I find they are more useful than is given credit here. If you want to talk about wasteful / Fabulous Flops, lets talk one item that Cadillac puts on all their Platinum Edition SUV's. Heated and Cooled Cup holders. Yes My Escalade ESV Platinum edition came with these worthless items that do not really cool or heat your drinks. I have found them on other vehicles both as an aftermarket addition and as regular item for fully loaded models and they still do not work.

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I have to honestly say this is far better looking than the drawings.

WOW, Gotta love th media for trying to keep things going during a lul in Auto News.

POW

Homestead

When the Fiat dealer opened here, same owners as the Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep dealer, they spent over the next 30 days some serious cash with Newspaper ads, Television ads, etc and yet clearly this market is not interested in these coffins on wheels. Seems people would rather drive the Hybrid Coffin on wheels Prius compared to the Fiat version. Maybe it is cause we are closer to Japan compared to the east coast being closer to Fiat's home territory.

Been listening to Heart and Barracuda

Riding the bus home from work in Downtown Seattle, was passed by half a dozen Panameras, 3 of the GL500 SUV's AMG editions and a ton of BMW M3 and AMG 63. Course with all the Tech money in this area, more common for high end auto's than an entry level Fiat. Bellevue High School average car in the kids lot is a 325.

Portifino concept was bery cool in it's day and I still actually like it now.

Very Cool Chris, Nice Catch. So is that Rear Suicide doors as I do not see any handles but it does look like the rear portion behind the front door opens. I have to say that I like this look much better than the Leaf and for me, the Spark name does not bother me even with the Almost zero volt fires. People who are hung up on this due to what was extreme impact hits way beyond normal are crazy. A normal gas car can explode if hit right also and burn. Spark way to go, you should be a hit for those of average height and needing a city commuter car.

I see this as setting the stage for a summer drive event with ATS at various trim levels going up aginst BMW and AMG in the same equal trim levels. Let the drive do the talking and I still think this is a perfect start for a vehicle that has high expectations. It will DRIVE the Engineers and Manufacturing to make sure they launch this one right!

WOW, Land Rover has won me over with this beauty.

How is 881lbs 40% of the curb weight of 5670? Me think someones math is a bit off. Is this not more like about a 15.5% reduction in weight?

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