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Je me souviens... Therefore...I will never agree why anything below an S Class is deemed luxury from Mercedes Benz.

Right... Your argument flip flops between Silverado...a Chevrolet and then switch to Denali... Is this luxury? Starts at 50 000 or so... So does a Denali. Like I said you flip flop... And then you try to denounce a Denali... But a 54 000 dollar E Class interior is an equal to the Denali's... And THAT version gets no supercruise or any other luxury tech either...plus a V6. The Denali is a 420 or so horsepower V8... You know...YOUR kind of definition of luxury...V8... Oh...and you mentioned work and utility... And all these NEVER sold in numbers to be bragged out about... Like I said... J.R. types from the soap opera Dallas all had Stepford wives and these are the cars they bought for them to silence them because they were cheating on them... You know...Lexus sold a half-a-million dollar car not too long ago... There are STILL unsold examples of it... Your little word pollution discussion...of which I got a headache from...means very little...

Just price. I dont have the patience or strength to discuss with him that aspect. Ive done so, like you, in the past, discuss this with him... Im kinda burnt out with this ad nauseam discussion with him. That is why I had a trolly response to him in that post.

FALSE. Mercedes has a model or two in the 1980s that was above Cadillac in the 1980s...but in the 1970s...NADA. Cadillac was starting to fall from grace...sure...but even Oldsmobile was on a higher level than Mercedes was. Mercedes threw some high priced stuff our way in the 1970s, and 'twas mostly rich Stepford wives that bought them. Seemingly California Stepford wives. Im thinking it was a way for rich pricks to shut them up while they were cheating on them with younger versions of their trophy wives... I hardly think that qualifies as glamorous... Keep mind that those rich pricks all drove Cadillacs and Lincolns... Then the yuppies took over in the 1980s and wanted to show those old rich pricks who is in control of Wallstreet and THAT is how Bimmers and Mercedes cars got a foothold on the luxury side of things in the US... Rest assured though, those younger chicks that cheated with those old rich pricks in the 1970s...all married guys that drove Lexuses in the 1980s and 1990s. But dont forget...those yuppies that drove those Bimmers and Mercedes cars in the 1980s and 1990s...all drive Teslas now...

And I noticed you IGNORED 0-60 times of the Raptor and the Shelby. Raptor is a tick above 5 seconds... BUT... Let me know when a G80 could do this (for the SECOND time) Oh...the Raptor could just flat out GO THROUGH the NURBURGRING by actually GOING THROUGH the twists and turns...

word pollution. But...Ill humour you. This is what pick-up trucks do...what they are meant to do...with 420 HP and 460 ft/lbs are meant to do....there are base V6 engines in these...and Ford has preferred to go 400 HP with turbo V6...but... Let me know when a G80 or a Caddy CT5V can do this or this Or even this... 0-60 and Nurburgring times are less relevant in times like these...me thinks... Screw your head on straight dude. Discuss stuff more like an adult and less like a teenager, please.

That is what was funny. I honestly never shunned GM for badge engineering. Well...to the extreme that auto journalists and haters do to this day. VW did to a better job of badge engineering marketing wise and better job of differentiating in the 1980s and 1990s, but today, you could clearly see (if one chooses to take the VW blinders off) that VW has done a shytty job of badge engineering the last 20 years... As bad as GM was doing it during those 1980s and 1990s... Honda and Toyota...if one chose to take the blinders off back then...would see that their badge engineering efforts were the SAME as GM's in the 1980s and 1990s. Its their marketing department that was better than GM's... But in order to see that...one has to take off the blinders. One has to ease up on the GM hate and one has to ump their sarcastic view they have on GM and transfer that to Honda, Toyota and VW... I just wished GM had better marketing then and today to offset the badge engineering efforts.

Inspiration: Also...it kinda looks like a high on meth Ford designer was trying to green light a Taurus coupe.

Yup...in Quebec too. We still have that in some ways still today. Stores close at 5:00 PM on the week-ends. Actually, it has been barely 20 years that stores open until 9:00 PM on the weekdays. Stores closed at 5:00 PM all week long.

Are you buzzing again? JUST because there isnt a Silverado SS 454 or Ford F-150 Lightning like there was 20 years ago...doesnt mean these machines do not have performance... A Silverado has a a 6.2 liter 420 HP and 460 horsepower V8 under the hood. Also...the Ford Raptor IS a performance machine... And you saw what I wrote? I said 20 years ago... PERFORMANCE muscle trucks EXISTED while Elon Musk was still a baby... 1978 (And yes...it was performance for the time...) And there are a slew of other noteworthy performance trucks from then until now... The Cybertruck is still not in production but Ford will gladly sell you a performance pick-up right NOW And there is another that Ford could sell you RIGHT NOW The rest of your post is just word pollution...

Correction... I just researched and I will retract my statement. Dealerships in Quebec are indeed closed. Along with the auto repair shops. Until April 13. I misunderstood the news from a week ago. Quebec shut down all non-essential business last week except pharmacies, hardware stores, grocery stores and gas stations. Restaurants with drive thrus could remain open (YAY!!!) but only serve peoples through the drive thru... Dealerships are closed and the auto repair shops would remain open...but 24 hours later, our politicians deemed auto repair shops non-essential, so those closed after. As of now, all auto related businesses are closed. But..the idiocy shall remain... Bicycle repair shop owners complained and convinced our politicians that THEIR services are essential so...BICYCLE repair shops are open... Also...we are in complete shut down of ALL businesses EXCEPT pharmacies and gas stations on Sundays.

Any econobox FWD sedan, coupe, CUV made from 1975ish up until April 4, 2020 from any manufacturer fits into that description right there. I dont understand why you only target EVs that way... These arent even econoboxes...just generic GM FWD re-badges. and have a personality of dry, whole wheat toasted bread. OK...the Caddy with that weak ass transverse V8 is butterless whole wheat toasted bread with a smidgen of orange marmalade. Not even strawberry jam but shytty orange marmalade... Oh...look...its got amber style fog lamps,. This is EXACTLY what maniacal Honda fanbois and gals WANT from their cars... (up high mind you making them totally useless in foggy conditions but that discussion is for another day). Yeah... "VTEC just kicked in Yo" just oozes from this machine...

Quebec closed auto repair shops deeming them not essential as well. And check this out...the dealership part to buy cars are open. Try to figure out that idiotic move... Other than that, Quebec politicians and health advisors are managing this pandemic quite well. Kudos to them.

Which leads to the 1980s version Which then leads to And then to Funky Town Im having a blast listening to all this!!!

Now I feel listening to loud arena rock. Too bad my wife wont allow me to sing on top of my lungs to disturb to whole damn neighborhood!

And now Im into 1950s rock-n-roll love songs

Santorini Blue And since I started with reminiscing of traveling back to Greece...with Mr. Orbison's angelic voice, I might as well continue listening to him.

^^^ Very soothing

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That is how my dad did stuff too. He did all kinds of stuff around the house. And when he wanted to make more than one of a particular object...he created jigs to replicate that very object he wanted fabricate. Working at Canadair and manufacturing aircraft, he learned that skill as that is how aircraft production was made back in the day. It's awesome Balthy that you could work with metal to fabricate jigs like that. And I bet you could work with any metal you could find. Scrap metal or otherwise! Just like my dad. I snapped his Chevy Celebrity's rear beam axle that connects both rear wheels (dont ask how I did that) and he, with a scrap metal bar he had laying around, he Frankensteined a repair job. Wasnt perfect. But it worked. We didnt have a lift either. He used what we had to lift the car. A couple of jacks and a jig to hold the car high enough so he could bolt and weld the shyte together. Aircraft grade nuts and bolts and the like... I just wished I was more serious about learning those skills from him. I just wished he FORCED me to learn those skills. He taught me. I observed, but I know he was aware that I was more into playing sports than to learn do it yourself skills from him. He was the one to teach me how to catch a baseball, how to bat, how to skate too... He taught me how to use tools as well... I guess, he knew I wanted to play sports more than fix things, so he was more serious in showing me how to play sports... Cant fault him there.. He was in tune to what I wanted more. (You were a GREAT dad, dad! I love you!) (tearing up as I write this!)

The 755 HP ZR1 coundnt put the power down efficiently. It was barely faster than the Z06 in various performance criteria and hence why Tadge Juechter, THE Vette engineer pushed hard forand got the mid-engined platform for the next gen Vette, whcih happens to be the C8... so nothing new that you are bitchin about here...nothing of importance in other words...hence why I decided to make the font so small...because I dont care for that....its pollution and wate of time coming from you and nothing else. When the track focused C8s arrive, the REAL track focused C8s like a Z06, and its coming soon, very soon, your question will be answered...again, small font because just pollution and waste of time... Your question about what happens to the C8 now for 2020 and 2021? Here is your answer: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a31976328/2021-c8-mid-engine-corvette-updates-report/

I wish I was also 1/10th as good as my dad as a handy man. My dad was born in 1926. Folks then...whether they were adults in 1926, or were born in 1926, all had to BE handymen. It was a necessity. It was THE way of life. No choice. Many reasons as to why that was. My dad was a soldier during the 2nd World War. The Canadian infantry and the war taught him very valuable handyman and survival techniques. My dad joined the USAAF in 1950. He went to Korea. He was a Staff Sergeant. He was taught many trades while being with the USAAF. Car mechanics. Generator mechanics. Aviation mechanics. Electrician. Plumbing. Wood working. Metal working. He had to improvise on how to fix things with the scarce materials he had, etc... I learned many things from him. How to check if brakes are good. Drum brakes, disc brakes. How to flush the radiator. If Im stuck, without coolant, to use water....in fact...before there was antifreeze, water was THE way to cool your car. He told me stories on how all owners of cars then used to flush the water out at night so it wont freeze over night...hence the name anti-freeze... I observed and learned how to fix things. Learned how to use tools. Problem is...I NEVER put that into practice...so now...without his guidance, I am not 100% sure of myself on how to approach handyman stuff. I do the easy things around the house, but I will not tackle the more laborious stuff. Example: In Quebec, you need a license to perform electrical stuff, because if you mess up and cause an electrical fire, you wont be paid insurance money and might even be pursued in a court of law. My dad had no electrician license, but he did all renovation electrical stuff on his own in his home, but he knew what to do... Plumbing same thing. Well....I will never touch that... Like I said...Ill do easy stuff. Ill fix a leaky faucet. I wont change the entire sink reconnecting the hoses and drains and stuff. Ill know what to do, on how to cut the hole in the wood cabinet to fit the sink in, how to caulk it properly, etc, but Id rather not. Ill caulk and re-caulk the bathtub, I wont install a new one. Ill change a old lighting fixture for a new one. I wont re-wire... Although I understand what needs to be done electricity wise concerning amperage and voltage and what breakers to use and the like... Lack of confidence, maybe? I can cut wood. Measure twice and cut once. I could screw and glue it together to make a project or two. But I lack that confidence to do so.

Ouais!!! LOL Quebec est une belle ville. Plus belle que LA Grande Ville (Montreal) J'ai faite un tour la dessus quand j'etais jeune lors de ma premiere visite a Quebec. Je suis alle a Quebec plusieurs fois depuis, mais je n'ai jamais voulu y retourner.

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