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Looks like I get to have my convertible after all. I copy Casa once again, with the same coloured Cascada he chose...

\Screw the Cadillac CT6 V At 52...Im going all out on a 1970 Oldsmobile 442

In 1985, I was 12 years old. There were Porsche 911s on my radar. The A-Team GMC van, the 3rd gen Pontiac Trans Am and KITT that I loved, but like every teen aged boy during this time.... I saw both movies at the cinema... A red Countach is what I wanted then as a 12 year old and going back into time for 1985, a red Countach for a dream garage for when I was 12 years odls is what I would want now... At 22 years old, in 1995, A 1995 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk or 1995 Trans Am is what I wanted then...and now. I was 32 in 2005, and although I bought a 2005 Impala SS in 2005, but I really wanted a Chrysler 300C, the car I truly lusted over was a 2005 M-B CLS 55 AMG. The CLS 63 AMG is want I really want but that came out in 2006. So Ill stick to the CLS 55 AMG of 2005 I was 42 in 2015...and I was and still am tempted by the Devil with the Hellcat! The Demon is in the Motley Crew video, but its ther Hellcat that was available in 2015 and its the Hellcat that I still want! And although Im not 52 yet, tomorrow I get to be 46...God willing. So we do 2019 as 2025 is still a ways away... Cadillac CT6-V So much for the EV movement in this dream garage!!!

The other advice I give you is: Online purchases...well, get yourself some prepaid credit cards and use those for online purchases. At least if your online shopping accounts get jacked, the pre-paid credit cards get used and you only lose the balance of those cards therefore minimizing your losses to just that.

This also may be the 1st time I do a Dream Garage Thread without circumventing the rules and still, I find myself outside the rules... Thanx Casa. I did not realize the Impala will not be discontinued just yet. Although great news in real life, it kinda sucks for this thread for me... Balthy also suggested that the Model S 75D might not qualify... So...Im copying you Casa. Ill be taking the Buick Lacrosse as well... Again, in black. And Ill be replacing the Model S with an ATS V sedan

I realized that this is the first dream garage I did with no convertible or roadster. I came close with the California T. ?

Sorry to hear about that. The first thing that you should do, and if you havent done so already,THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU WAITING FOR???!!!, is call your credit card company to explain your situation and maybe even cancel your credit card!!! Like lets go...do it now!!! PRONTO!

Hello Frisky! Long time we didnt communicate ensemble. OK...enough with the chit chat, lets get back to business... Dodge Demon Alpha Romeo 4C Coupe Aston Martin Vanquish S I originally had a Ferrari California T, but I realized that this car was gone in 2017 plus I do not have enough family haulers so Impala LTZ midnight edition replaces it. Tesla Model S 75D

Desktop Computers They have evolved into lap tops and tablets and smart phones. I dont see them going away per se. Just evolve into something else. Keys Nah. They will be in existence. Maybe we wont be using them daily because keyless systems will take over...but as a back-up, physical keys will continue on. Electronics have a habit of shorting out and failing, therefore we will be needing a physical back-up. Physical college text books Im surprised it hasnt happened already. I guess charging students every year for new bogus editions is toooo much of a cash cow to do away with them...it may happen, but when they figure out how to fleece students in other ways it will happen. Televisions They aint going away. EVER. They will evolve. Buit they aint going away. We as humans will always default to a bigger viewing medium when we want to watch the next blockbuster movie, sporting event or youtube video. Yes, Millennials use their smart phones to do all that nowadays, but they too, succumb eventually, to the allure of a big screen TV. Virtual Reality in holographic viewing is the only way to spell the end for TVs, but the way we have it now, wearing glasses, it wont do anything to end TV viewership. Manual Transmissions Its happening already. And in the not so distant future, if EVs take over ICE, then for sure. The autonomous driving thing will not be a reality, ever, but EVs might just be. Analog watches Ive got many customers that pay with their smart phone watches. Smart phones are apart of life. But analog watches will continue to exist, not as a reliable source of time keeping, but as jewelry. Just like ties are a part of a suit, no matter how outdated and stupid looking ties may look in today's world, so will analog watches continue to be a fashion statement. Car Insurance Cars are to be driven/used on the road whether called upon on a Taxi service or Lyft/Uber autonomously or driven by a human, accidents are bound to happen and therefore insurance will exist for the companies that own those services. And seeing that private ownership of automobiles WILL always exist...but it does not matter if private ownership will exist or not, autonomous pods will exist, according to this, right? Well insurance will be offered to the company that owns the autonomous pods and those insurance policy fees will be paid by someone and those fees will be transferred back to the user. Car insurance will even add a few other protective measures that will be paid...such as road sickness protection and protection against forgetting a briefcase or scarf in the autonomous pod... So yeah...car insurance will not only exist but grow exponentially... 7. Remote controls Voice recognition technology is truly amazing nowadays...yeah, I see this going away soon enough. DVDs Just like any other media, DVDs will eventually have their moment when they too, will disappear. Paper is the only one that has existed for this long without any real danger of going extinct anytime soon. Incandescent lightbulbs In Canada, these are already off the shelf. Its been 5 years at least that no Canadian could buy an incandescent light bulb.

I did not know how to answer the reliability factor because my answer would have been anecdotal, just like the accusers, but I wanted a more concrete rebuttal. I was gong on pure hearsay on what I heard when I was in Greece this past summer regarding French cars in general and then I was going to post some European links regarding Peugeot's reliability record the last decade, and I did find some links to support my stance...but since I dont live in Europe and I wouldnt know how reliable those links really are...anyway... Thanks Drew for the post above!

Yes on the aspirational part. Besides the Escalade, what other Cadillac vehicles aspire people to own them? The V Series stuff? On a performance level, sure. But on a marketing level...nada. And there are many factors for that. Which I feel may not be necessary to start mentioning them in this thread. I am not going to start mentioning past aspirational projects that came to fruition but failed miserably in execution, but I will mention stuff like the Ciel, El Miraj where Cadillac should have built for production, and built to a Standard of the World standard, unlike the Evoq to XLR...and that would have almost been enough to get Cadillac back on top. Escala? This nice modern concept is nowhere to been seen...and by the time it gets here, if it gets here, it may be too late to capture our hearts... Its an SUV world...where are the jaw dropping Cadillac brashness SUVs? In the pipeline? These should not be in the pipeline, these should be in the showroom floor NOW! No XT4 and no XT5. REAL Cadillacs. Although the XT6 is par for the course for SUVs in this price range from ALL manufactures...boring as phoque SUVs, the XT6 should have felt more like a baby 'Slade in presence, stance and interior quality. Ive heard that the next generation 'Slade will have a worthy interior that blows away even the Navigator...well, THAT should have started with the XT6. Cadillac should have at least shown us aspiration with this new XT6. Instead, its par for the course. I defended the XT6, but maybe now, in hindsight to what Im ranting now with my diatribe, maybe I should be blasting it instead... As far as position in the market place goes... Yeah...I do not want Cadillac to go tooooo far down in affordability and mediocrity. I do not want Cadillac to be a full line brand. But if it must it must. Ill break it down what I expect from Cadillac. Ill be using Porsche as my reference. Porsche was a boutique sports car maker. They tried to be affordable in the 1970s and 1980s using VW parts cars and they failed miserably. Cadillac paralleled that in every way that I mentioned. Porsche today though, is kinda like a full line brand and they did that somewhat successfully now. But we do not know at what cost further down in the future as the Macan is a VW underneath...and is sold in mainstream numbers. Will that have detriment to the 911? Marketing comes in handy in these situations. Cadillac lacks desperately here... Anyway...I want Cadillac to be where Porsche resides in the pricing of vehicles and in the prestige and aspiration in the minds of people. The Macan starts at 50 000 dollars. (next gen Macan and Porsche says it will be a 100% EV) The Boxtster starts at 60 000 dollars. The Cayenne starts at 66 000 dollars. The Panamera starts at 86 000 dollars. The Taycan will probably be above 86 000 dollars The 911 starts at 91 000 and goes up very quickly to 150 000/160 000 And the Porsche 918 is astronomical in price... I do not think Porsche goes below 50 000. I said that about Cadillac in that I do not want Cadillacs below that price. I believe I said that if Cadillac is going to do an ATS, I want the ATS to start at the ATS V level of performance with a starting price of 55 000 or 60 000. I want the CTS to start where the CTS V sport is in price and performance. But more on the CTS later... If Cadillac is to do an XT4 or XT5...I want those to be BMW X4M and X6M competitors from the get go with a starting price tag of 55 000 for the XT4 and 60-65 000 dollar range and above. No XT4 and no XT5 to be sold to anybody to be Lexus and Acura RDX and Chevy Blazer competitors. From the get go, aim high with those small CUVs. The Macan and the Cayenne aims high. Yeah...XT4 and XT5 to be in competition to the Macan, Cayenne, BMW X4M and X5M/X6M...no less than that is acceptable for Cadillac. The CT6 could stay as is. The XT6 and CT5 (I could have a change of heart for the former CTS here)...those could be bread and butter models. Sure. 50 000 dollars. OK...but they better be engineered and produced and manufactured like Standard of the World vehicles. No compromises. But as you see, the way Im thinking, the ATS, XT4, XT5 are no longer for the broken ass, over spending moron that goes from dealership to dealership, trying to get an extra 20 dollars off a month of his lease payment and if he scores at BMW with the X3 or Mercedes with the CLA or at Lincoln or Genesis...then he is a happy camper showing off his entry level luxury bullshyte vehicle to other badge snob morons... Cadillac starts at a higher aspirational level... And then we get to the nitty gritty things of where Cadillac was THE Standard of the World. Where it should reside it. Where it always resided in. The 80 000 dollar threshold of luxury... Where the Escalade happily kicks the shyte out of any fullsized SUV selling company... And then we go from there offering all kinds of aspirational sedans, coupes, convertibles, SUVs. You know, El Mirajs, Ciels, SUVs higher than the Escalade. Escalas that could reach price tags of 150 000 dollars. Isnt THAT what Cadillac was once upon a time ago? Porsche did it, non? Cadillac is struggling to do it...after 20 years of trying. In the same time frame, Porsche is doing it... Then once we do that, we can go for the occasional astronomical priced vehicle to compete with Rolls and Bentley. The Ciens, the Evoqs, the Eldorado Broughams and anything else...

What Balthy said... But what Im gonnna say for myself... Top line Camaro...as in ZL-1? If yes, not a volume trim. Top line Camaro is a halo car for the brand and for the model that is Chevrolet and Camaro respectively to showcase what Chevrolet can do and what the Camaro brand is all about to get butts in the showroom to buy other Chevrolet cars. Base level Escalade...may possibly be a volume model, for the brand and for Escalade to sell. But...volume for a vehicle of that magnitude is not the same amount of volume sales like an Equinox. Obviously volume in this regard is relative to the respective brand we are talking about. Cadillac is supposed to be CADILLAC. Not BMW. Not Mercedes. Not Rolls Royce nor Bentley. Cadillac need not be chasing sales and filling out price gaps that may be in order to chase down niches that dont necessarily belong to Cadillac's image. And WHAT is this Cadillac image we are talking about? Well...you tell me... What do we want Cadillac to be? What do Cadillac and GM CEOs want Cadillac to be? And most importantly, the potential Cadillac owner/driver, what does HE/SHE want his/her Cadillac to be? If its just a badge that signified past glory or a badge that means a higher sticker price than mainstream cars such as Ford or Chevrolet or Hyundai, then OK...all is well in Cadillac land. Ditto for BMW and Mercedes Benz selling us golden dreams and we buy by the boatload these pseudo luxury pods that makes us feel better about ourselves because a Cadillac XYZ123 and a BMW 123XYZ Series costs slightly more to acquire than a Ford Skywalker and a Chevrolet Sunnylane. But if we are to create vehicle with a real brand image based on real performance and/or luxury to sell to those people that could actually afford a house in Malibu and a condo in Paris while vacationing in Monte Carlo and we were to actually produce a vehicle that only the very few could afford and the little people could only dream of owning one day, then...THAT is a whole different ball game, dont you think? And THIS is EXACTLY what Im talking about... Cadillac need not be chasing the same broken cigar customer base that everybody else is chasing. Those people that think they are rich by leasing 'luxury' badged vehicles over then mainstream ones...and in reality, Whether Cadillac or BMW or Honda, is still chasing that poor over-spending moron that has 3-4 maxed out credit cards but has the latest smart phone and the most recent year leased vehicle and begging the sales person of whatever dealership to cut him another 5-10-15-20 dollars off his monthly lease payment...

Well, Peugeot has changed since those days. Peugeot has also gained a more upscale and sporty identity but retained a still affordable price. Think of what Oldsmobile could have been in the mid 2000s had GM not killed them off. Or a better managed Saturn brand as soon as Oldsmobile went away. Or even Buick just a few years back had Buick built on what the Verano and Encore established... But the main thing is that their cars are no longer junk.

I dont know anymore.... yeah...The Verano and the Malibu Premier. If I was to stay with the Chevy theme of ranting against Cadillac being in the same showroom floor as Chevrolets...and complaining about Cadillac being in the same price range as top level Chevrolets, and sharing more or less the same 4 cylinder turbo, yeah, the Premier Malibu. Sorry for the mistaken identity and for the long winded rants.

Well...Buick is tippy toeing towards an end in North America. Because there is an over-saturation of brands here. (How is it that Hyundai managed to create a lux brand and create several cars for it, and managed to get those models to sell at KIA as well, but GM cant seem to get Buick to sell and have Cadillac's target market on track in the same time frame that Hyundai decided to get their luxury brand online?) Peugeot... Well...they cant do any worse than Alpha Romeo and Fiat. Hell, they cant do any worse than Buick... So yeah... on a different point of view that I had earlier...it DOES seem that Im telling you that there might be a chance... even if it IS a one in a million chance... Against all odds, Genesis seems to be surviving somehow in North America. Acura and Infinity and Lexus replaced Oldsmobile, Pontiac and Mercury in that market place. Hyundai and KIA seems to have replaced Saturn and Plymouth. Genesis seems to be doing something.... I do NOT know what, but I do know that Buick aint too hot right about now... Cadillac cars are struggling...Lincoln cars are struggling. Lincoln SUVs are OK...Cadillac SUVs are better than OK... Acura is now stagnant... BMW and Audi, Mercedes are doing better than OK... Hey...maybe there is a slight chance of Peugeot making a dent here...who knows?

Not in Canada. Well, at least in the Montreal region, I do not know of one stand alone Cadillac dealership. Does not exist is what Im saying. As far as RWD and the ATS.. The ATS is a fine precision handling machine, even at the lower end. But that 2.0T does NOT belong in ANY Cadillac...And while the Fusion is AWD and a family hauler and the top trim where the lower trimmed ATS resides...again...THERE is where the problem resides.. Cadillac should have never been reduced to be a European version of BMW or Mercedes Benz to chase volume to where Cadillacs become econoboxes themselves to compete in that price range... With the risk of sounding like SMK... The ATS does NOT have a V8. The ATS does NOT have a convertible version. Yet, the Chevy version does...and has the SAME base engine. 2.0T The Chevy version does not have a sedan version but that somehow makes the ATS appealing? Why? So the owners could haul other people in it, like their family? So...how does THAT differ from the FWD Fusion that could be optioned to be a hot little AWD number? And IF Ford had decided to do a RS/ST version instead of a subdued Sport version, how does THAT bode for Cadillac and the ATS? Because Cadillac and RWD? Like I said...take all that we are bitching about the Blazer, the different sized saucages and platform sharing GM is doing, but apply THAT to Cadillac... The Acadia, the Transverse, the Blazer, the Enclave...its all fine...for volume and profit. Boring as phoque SUV appliances. But THAT is what Chevy and GMC is for. Not so sure for Buick, but whatever. Doesnt Cadillac deserve MORE than that though? And back to the XT5. FWD... I swear I could hear SMK laughing at us over here!!! The ATS was such a waste and took Cadillac 2 steps back. The car itself was fantastic...image wise I think it sucked. The BMW 3 Series grew in size and IT became a tweener to where the former CTS was. How ironic... But to NOT screw themselves in Europe primarily, BMW made a 2 Series which was closer in size to when the 3 Series WAS the ultimate driving machine...and an econobox at that! THIS thread, even though we are bitchin' about Blazer value and high price, I think we should really come to grips that Cadillac may not be going in the right direction going down market chasing Chevrolet volume... Sure, Cadillac is getting those high sales with their FWD CUVs...you said it yourself...FWD... We are bitching about the Blazer being yet another FWD appliance fodder...and getting pissed because it steps on Cadillac's FWD appliance fodder, and suggesting that Ford's FWD appliance fodder maybe a better value than the Chevy, yet we arent flinching about how WRONG it is for Cadillac to even BE in this price point and configuration to begin with!!!

Yes...far cry... But in reality...THAT is the problem... Why in the world are we even mentioning Pontiac Torrent and Chevy Blazer in the same breath as Cadillac XT5? For Cadillac to chase those Lexus RX buyers? Who are the same as those Acura RDX buyers? Who also flock to buy the ILX/RDX/EL/Integra? Which GM sold the Pontiac Sunbird GT and Saturn Ion red line to compete with? Which was a Cimarron? THAT is the problem... Cadillac does NOT need to have what Chevy/Pontiac/Oldsmobile has or had. Cadillac and Chevy COULD platform share...but Cadillac needs to really distance itself from that Pontiac/Oldsmobile/Buick price points. Leave that to Chevy, Buick and GMC. Cadillac needs to become Cadillac again. The badge? As far as Im concerned, at the lower price points of an ATS versus a Ford Fusion Sport or Platinum. Cadillac no better than Ford here. The dealership experience? When a Chevy Cruze is bought at the same lot as the ATS with the same 2.0T? The Ford dealership and the Cadillac dealership experience at the GM superstore selling Chevys and Cadillacs might actually be the same...

And overlapping trims and price points fighting for the same sorry assed customer base... Where, maybe this problem that existed then, today, is less apparent...so yeah Frogger! But... THIS what was said is NOT to be ignored... Because... While this makes sense because... Obviously this is more important...but... There is a way to do this... As Volkswagen has done succesfully, as GM once upon a time ago did that succesfully too Because ultimately...the way things are going...NOT with Chevy and the Blazer, but with Cadillac and the XT4, CT4 and if the Chevy models ever get to Oldsmobile levels of confort and luxury across all their models, which Chevy can...(1957 Bel Air, Impala, early1970s Monte Carlo and Kingswood), Cadillac will be questioning their own existence like how Balthy was saying to me earlier, Because Cadillac as of now, other than the Escalade, is not being seen as a top tier luxury brand. How could it when us, as enthusiasts in a GM primary website, give flack to Chevy for being in a Cadillac realm of pricing, which is at the lower end of the spectrum, yet we are quite content with Cadillacs being priced to compete with Ford Edge STs.. Because what it REALLY boils down to...FORGET about the Blazer...GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON WHY I SHOULD BUY THE CADILLAC XT5 OVER THE FORD EDGE ST???!!! Yes...use ALL the criteria we are bitching about the Blazer and transfer THAT unto to Cadillac... BECAUSE THAT is my issue with all this. The Blazer is fine where it is. Its Cadillac the real problem here!

LOL. Both actually. I was under the impression that Lasalles were manufactured by the same factories that Cadillacs were produced in and yes, at lower prices that Cadillacs were sold at and because I thought that Cadillacs were manufactured in the same factories as Cadillacs were, I thought that Lasalles were just cheaper priced Cadillacs with a Lasalle badge on them instead of a Cadillac badge on them.

Cadillac is not..well was not, your average luxury brand. It was much more than that. The Lasalle brand was created to sell at a price point lower than Cadillac that Cadillac actually manufactured, right? The brand stopped being produced because of WW2, right? But when WW2 ended, Buick just just took over that spot, right? And Cadillac just continued on being THE Standard of the World and in North America at least, was even more prestigious that Rolls Royce right? Even producing a model that cost more to buy than Rolls Royce, right? I mean, V16 Cadillacs of the 1930s were always in that Rolls Royce territory, along with Deusenbergs but after WW2, Cadillac was very much alone in that regard, right? I mean, America was just about the only country that was not exactly decimated by WW2 and thrived 10 fold after, right? Leaving Cadillac and with Lincoln, to be the choice for the world's most rich and powerful. And those folks were in America for the most part, right? JUST because the 1960s happened and that was the start for GM going haywire with all the brand overlapping and it went out of control in the 1970s and by the 1980s is was too late for Cadillac to right the ship that in 2019 going forward that Cadillac HAS to have a Cimarron sedan and Cimarron CUV in their line-up just to be like every other luxury brand does it today, right? I want Cadillac to BE the Standard of the World. Doing what other luxury brands like Acura, Lexus, BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Jaguar does it, does NOT mean that Cadillac NEEDS to. Rolls and Bentley are in the boutique level of luxury. Top top top tier. Ferrari and Lamborghini are boutique sports car makers that will be producing boutique SUVs... Porsche WAS a boutique sports car maker and now has become a full fledged SUV maker. Not even a boutique SUV maker as their Macan is based off of VW bones and sold in mainstream levels of sales in that slightly higher than Chevy Blazer prices... Im sure there is a spot where Cadillac could and SHOULD thrive in. Somewhere where a Porsche Panamera resides in no lower and for now, as high as a Mercedes S Class Maybach. Until Cadillac gets enough steam to go higher than that. Of course awesome cars and cuvs with 50 000 dollar price tags from Cadillac could be sold, but those gotta be the best of the best vis-a-vis the competition. That means no lease queens with 2.0T engines. That means ATS V as THE base ATS and as the lowest Cadillac cars and CUVs go with luxury interior and performance. That means the CT5 should be at the very least a V sport in conception. As a base vehicle. THAT is what I envision Cadillac to be. I dont want Cadillac to be the American version of the European version of BMW or Mercedes Benz. I want Cadillac to be...CADILLAC.

I made a quick, dramatic post about what vehicles and markets Id want Cadillac to be in without really thinking about it too deeply, but yeah, what you said here is what I believe in as well.

Quebec has NEVER mirrored France. The people have NEVER wanted even to be, French...fromm France. The people are very quite comfortable in being French Canadian with our, (yes, even I Im Greek, I see myself as a Quebecois) own French (Quebecois) culture that is...Canadian... The love of hockey. Yes its a Canadian thing, but its a religion here. The Quebecois were the first in North America to denounce religion...to distance religion from politics and public affairs. Therefore hockey remains the sole religion. The French Canadians have adopted mainly American sports like baseball. Curling is not a thing in Quebec. Baseball is. Football too. Soccer aint a thing here. We follow it as there are many Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Greek, Irish, Mexican folk, but baseball, hockey, football (yes the NFL) still has a stronger following than soccer. As much as Montreal is very European in many regards, its American too. But Montreal prides itself of being both. Quebec city prides itself being of French settlers, but its QUEBEC City...not a French from France city. Quebec has always wanted to speak French...in THEIR province. Speak English but not to have the English dictate to them in THEIR province what to do... France is nowhere mentioned in Quebec affairs. While some France cultural aspects along with European ones are quite apparent in Quebec, like alcohol drinking at the age of 18 in bars or closing time for bars being 3:00 AM or sex not being such a taboo... prostitution not being frowned upon, pimping yes, not prostitution per se...Quebec laws balance European way of life as much as North American... And I could go on, but it is a car forum... I just wanted to make that clear. That French Canadians LOVE being Canadian being French Canadian, in North American having their own little piece of Earth called Quebec.

Let me guess. Quebec is one of those provinces? Quebec does buy more small imported vehicles than any other province and the French population might adopt Peugeot as PSA is...from France. It may be a cultural thing now that the Quebec people have slowly accepted their Frenchness as for the longest time, the French Canadian Quebecois hated France for ditching them in North America. Some cars and CUVs that they sell are attractive, but relying on one province to do you success in North America is foolish as I dont think the other 3 Canadian provinces and the 15 American states gives a shyte for French cars.

Yes. I could agree to that. I cant disagree because it really is the truth. That "brands overlap brands & models overlap models. It's the way the industry has been for decades." Was it a smart move on Chevy's part to introduce the Impala and the way Chevy sold the Impala with all that class and "luxury" features it had? Over 13 million sold making it the highest selling Chevy model. The answer is clearly yes! My beef, if its not already clear, is not that Chevy is aiming that high. Im good with it! My beef is with Buick not focused properly and their product line is suffering for it. My other beef is that Cadillac is aiming TOO low. I dont mind if they do go low somewhat, since GM does not have the Pontiac and Oldsmobile filler brands anymore, but to encroach Chevy levels of price, not a good thing. Again, Ill bring up ATS and XT4. Cadillac does NOT need this. Chevy could handle that part. BLAZER anybody???!!! Camaro anybody? If Cadillac wants a small performing RWD car, maybe the ATS-V Sport with a TTV6 400 horsepower that the V currently has SHOULD be the LOWEST ATS it offers and the full out V should be the V8 that the Camaro ZL1 offers... Lease queen ATS with the 2.0T should NOT even be a thought for Cadillac dealerships. BUICK could handle the lease queen 2.0T ATS level vehicles... XT4? Same thing... Cadillac does not need this... The problem with this is that BMW and Audi and Mercedes has this world wide. That world wide, BMW, Audi and Mercedes Benz sell lower market vehicles, but these lower market vehicles are NOT sold as entry level luxury or luxury. Those models are really sold as econobox cars. Cadillac's strategy to emulate that is doing it wrong... Therefore, if Cadillac wants to sell a bazillion 2 Series and 3 Series econobox competitor cars in Europe and in China, that Cadillac has to sell itself as an entry level brand...there, and here... But Cadillac was NEVER that. Therefore Cadillac should just cut that crap out! No need for Cadillac to overlap Chevrolet... THAT is how I sees it. ATS, XT4, XT5 is just Cadiallc overlapping Chevrolet. I dont sees it as the Blazer overlapping Cadillac. I sees the XT5 overlapping the Blazer...not a good thing for Cadillac!

From my perspective: Cadillac shouldn't be playing at this level. Cadillac shouldnt be selling cars at this price point. Cadillac shouldnt be trying stoop to Lexus or Acura levels of entry level lux. That WAS Oldsmobile territory and Pontiac. Cadillac should be higher level than that. Now that Olds and Pontiac are gone, leave that to Chevy and Buick and let Cadillac BE Cadillac. THE standard of the world. You aint gonna get there by selling "entry level" BS marketing... THE standard of the world MEANS building and selling dreams. Not crappy XT5s. By building and selling sky is the limit Ciels and golden dreams Eldorados... ATS...nope CTS...nope. CTS-V: YES! CT6 and CT6-Vs: YES! Escalade: YES! XT5:NOPE XT6: MAYBE XT4: ARE YOU MAD???!!! NO WAY!!! The Blazer is fine where it is. Its Cadillac that is out of its league here! It SHOULD aim higher! We are bitching about a Chevy having a base 2.0 liter 4 banger, but over at Cadillac, Cadillac uses the same base 4 cylinder in certain models yet we dont cry fowl for Cadillac doing that. Am I missing something?