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Yes. And we have Google Home and Amazon "whatever its called" that controls literally everything you want it to control in your home. But when there is a power failure...kiss all that good-bye and we have to cope with day to day living the old fashioned way.... And some of us are so far up Google's and Amazon's ass that we dont know how to 'git er dun' anymore. Point being, technology will always have limits no matter how far advanced technology has become and we will always advance and evolve our ways and adapt quite easily to these new advancements but when something incredibly new arrives, and there will be set-backs and/or minor deficiencies, we will have to cope with those deficiencies one way or other until we iron out those kinks. And the innovation cycle will continue to repeat itself that way.

Here I am and Im watching playoff hockey. I came to a realization. In sports, fans like to compare how today's sports greats measure up to past sports greats and vice versa. But we cant do that accurately. Different eras. Past sports greats smoked, drank, ate like pigs.Had other jobs. Did not train, exercise etc... Today's sports stars, well, they do the opposite of that. Plus, they use technology that records and captures their motions and they play it back micro second to micro second and analyze their movements with a professional sports trainer and improve on their imperfections. Anyway...back to cars. Same logic though. Different times had different obstacles to overcome with different advances in technology. Its not fair for the Model T to be scrutinized by me the way I did. But...its not fair for the EV to be scrutinized the way some do regarding charging times... Technology is simply not there for that...yet. But...that is just 1 aspect of charging an EV. For the umpteenth time. We forget that even with a 275 mile range in winter, so the range is even cut by 60-65%, an average Joe commuting with his EV, will never have to stop at a charging station just daily driving his EV back and forth to work if he has a home charging unit... Modern EVs, Telsa EVs, SURPASS performance levels the way that guy made his argument, hands down with the daily driving aspect as a Tesla EV, or Bolt, has enough range to never have to charge on public roads...never has to detour and stop to "fill up". No time wasted...like at all... Some people just harp on charging times needlessly because it shant be a problem... But...just like the early Ford Model T adapters, cranking the engine by hand to start, fiddling around with bottles and funnels, taking out water from the radiator in the night because of freezing cold weather in the winter and adding water back into it in the morning, and then monitoring the water levels constantly, checking the water in the battery... You know, those early car adapters, well, they coped... Same with the EV guys. They cope with the different set of obstacles they have to face... If you are not capable, or willing to cope with the EV obstacles...its simple, dont buy an EV. But for many, especially in other parts of the world not named United States of America, they cope with it quite well...

That Golf R is one heck of a performer. Its got all the characteristics a car enthusiast craves for. A similar thing I see in Montreal, many 50 year old males drive Audi A3s.

I am about to say flawed logic to that as well... But before I do say it, I wanna know how many gasoline stations were around in the 1900s, then the 1910s, then the 1920s. (because obviously gasoline powered vehicles, especially affordable ones like the Model T, just exploded unto the scene by the 1920s...) Then, Id like to know how far apart were those gasoline stations. Again, each decade had growth. And that poster just mentions Model T territory, but obviously a 1908 Model T was different enough from a 1927 Model T and more to it than that, the automotive landscape had significantly changed from 1908 to 1927...his argument does not mention what decade of Model T. Because I bet you, especially in the early days, the gasoline stations were farther apart than the EV infrastructure is toady. But at what point in time did the early gasoline stations equal the EV infrastructure we have today in 2019 and at what point in time did it surpass it? Then Id like to know, how big of a gasoline tank the first Model Ts had, and then Id like to know how big of a gasoline tank the last gen Model T had. Then...Id like for us to make a REAL and honest calculation of what a Model T performance is like...according to its respective decade. Because it WAS different in the 1900s, in 1910, in 1920... Also..in the early days of motoring...there werent even real roads. The Model T was a true blue off roader. To which I also wanna know, those early Model T pioneers, or other gasoline powered vehicle owners, how far did they really need to drive? Because we all know, in the beginning of the automotive industry, there were no Clark Griswold, Chicago to Wolly World family truckster vacations...Route 66 came after WW2 I think... We could all summarize and come to a conclusion that fits our biased agendas...that doesnt mean our conclusions or our opinions are correct. https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/what-the-history-of-gas-stations-means-for-electric-cars from that link above: I also wanna know if that poster knew you had to play around to fill up the gas tank that way...did he calculate the time wasted fiddling around with bottles and funnels and mopping any spillages? Did he calculate the time needed for all the little nuances that the early cars required to get going? I bet not... So...the 36MPH for a certain vintage Model T may in fact be lower than that...

In Montreal, GTIs are still a young guy's fast and the furious dream. Many millennial boys and men drive these. There are even some car gals that drive them as well. And yes, I am talking about the current gen. And yes, there are car gals to speak of in Montreal. Kinda cool if you ask me. The new Civic Si also follows this same path. Toyobarus too.

What? They need a Corvette for that? I thought all they had to do was grab them by the...um...sugar wall? "You can't fight passion when passion is hot Temperatures rise inside my sugar walls Let me take you somewhere you've never beeeeeen I can show you things you've never seeeeeeeeeeeeen I can make you never want to faallll in love againnnnnn Come spend the night inside my sugar walls Take advantage, it's alright I feeel so alive when I'm with yououou Come and feel my presence, it's raining toniightt Heaven on earth inside my sugar walls Let me take you somewhere you've never beeeeeen I can show you things you've never seeeeeeeeeeeeen I can make you never want to faallll in love againnnnnn Come spend the night inside my sugar walls" THANK-YOU PRINCE!!!! AND LET US NOT FORGET ABOUT SHEENA!!!

I have a smartphone too. An ancient iPhone6. Im not some sort of nantzy panzy who doesnt realize the worth of tech. Smartphone tech at that. But...I also dont agree with your statement of putting it as "ancient times without smartphones" Ive had a cellphone since 1993. I was 20 years old. I use my smartphone in countless of ways. But I also found myself yearning for those "ancient times" to come back...only with the constant need to use our smartphone every second of the damned day. When I need to use the internet for whatever reason, to make a restaurant order, or whatever, yes, I could do it with my iPhone... I used to log unto my on my restaurant's security cameras with my iPhone to see what is going on at the store. All that constant need to be connected got me into a paranoia state of mind... Now...I just calmed myself the phoque down, breathe, and just use the internet when I can. ON MY OWN TERMS... And if that means being off the grid for 15 hours, 20 hours. 48 hours, so be it... I just use the internet the way we used to use the internet during the "ancient times" OK...sometimes Im on Youtube listening to music. OK...kinda like all the time when Im at home NOT watching TV or doing homework with my kids...But never when I drive. I dont use internet to listen to music when I drive or Im waiting in a doctor's office. I got enough music using early 2000s tech for that. I dont use CDs, but other storage devices NOT called the cloud...or Spotify... In fact, when Im waiting in a doctor's office, or dealership, or check-out line, or whatever, my smartphone, is tucked away in my pocket, like it was in 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996...in other words, I simply use my phone as a phone, and if I do NOT want to be bothered, its off. Internet and all...all on my OWN terms But yeah...a life without internet is almost impossible today. Even for non-business usages. You can play your own DJ. Get sports scores instantly. And all that great instant information stuff...Yada yada yada.... But...I have found a happy medium to NOT be connected 24/7/365. And its such a nice feeling is alls Im saying.

All this talk about "wait until you can do this" or "you'll wonder how you have lived before smart phones that"... All that wonderin' and doin' with smart phones just makes you into a phone zombie... Its like crack cocaine or qualudes...sorry, Im still stuck in the 1980s...its like opioid drug abuse...(so you folk dont think Im stuck in the past) We get addicted to the fast, instant information that we require instant repsonse and no waiting times...like for anything... We will send a message to order something, then like spoiled bratty children, we look at our phones to see if the recieving party got the message and we want him/her to respond IMMEDIATELY and we continue looking at our phone to see if and when he/she will respond... And with all that, one could just have the patience to get to a regualr computer and process all their messages he/she wants and the reciever will recieve all the messages and he/she will process those messages and those answers will back answered when possible...and all will be done sent and recieved instantly because the medium used between a smart phone or a regualr computer like we did in the early 2000s BEFORE Smartphones is the same medium... If we sent the messgae 2 hours ago on our smartphone...but the dude on the recieveing end could not respond immediatley...but responds 3 hours after...what difference does it make if we did not have smart phones and we waitned those same two hours when we got to our regular computers? Now...having a smartphone on our persons is a GREAT invention...changed humanity even more than an internet computer did...and THAT is saying a lot... but...all it really did, is make us zombies and impatient and intolerant as a whole... So...count me out on the "wait until you see what you could do with a smartphone..." camp Because I actually DO the what the smartphone does...at MY OWN PACE WHEN I CAN WHILE NOT USING A SMART PHONE and it seems I HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ENJOY MY SURROUNDINGS AT THE SAME TIME...UNLIKE SOME SMARTPHONE USERS!!! Im like that lone guy in the pic...

Im gonna be watching Stars Wars in the next 24-48 hours. In the memory of Peter Mayhew. R.I.P.

Wrong PHOQUING answer!!!

wrong answer... If you think its about you and Tesla... you are waaaaaaay off If you want answers from me, maybe you should start giving decent arguments. Not hidden agenda rhetoric. When I respond to you, answer back. Dont ignore. Acknowledge. If not. You'll get what you do. You downvote when you dont like something, or you use that laughy thing without answering to it. So, whenever I see something I dont like from you, Ill just downvote without explanation. I left for about two weeks. And its the same ole same ole trolling. We are all over 30 years of age. Some of us are well into our 40s. Some of us into our 50s. Can we just have INTELLIGENT conversation and let go of the petty, childish crap? We get it. You dont like Tesla... BIG PHOQUING DEAL!!! However, even at GM, cars are in the shop for 45 days...it happens sometimes... And in GM North America at that! What? We are sooooo wanting everything right now today? I sometimes have to wait 48 hours to get a phoquing oil change and tires changed at BOTH Acura and Ford... Tires and oil change... Without knowing what really was wrong with that ride sharing Tesla...we give our two bit hatred for Tesla just because a Chinese ride hailing company said Tesla gave shyte service. One glaring question I got for that Tesla ride sharing company is: What did YOU do to the car for it to be in the shop for 45 days? What did the driver do to it? How phoqued up was his driving for the Tesla to be in the shop? North Americans are not exactly awesome drivers...but Chinese drivers are notoriously bad... Its funny though, your hatred for Tesla IMMEDIATELY makes you blame Tesla. But as I, when I said I dont trust China and Trump...you downvote me. Because I mentioned Trump? Funny? You mention immigrants in an EV thread and you wanna pass that off as OK converstaion... Well... Hypocrite much?

definitely wrong answer...

Wrong answer...

Whatever you are doing... So ask yourself what it is you are doing, stop it, then Ill do the same...

Funny you say that... My partner's TESLA Model S is has over 100 000 KM (over 60 000 miles) and other than a couple of recalls (3-5 recalls), nary an issue too... To keep this in perspective...my own Acura has had 2 or 3 recalls to which one of them was silent...but the TL is very reliable... My wife's Fusion...I literally cant count them on both of my hands as I think the recalls exceeded 10...but the Fusion, other than front brake rotors being changed prematurely because they warped (prematurely|), very reliable too... Anecdotes are fun..arent they? But you have hidden agendas , and you become hypocritical when discussing things...

Actually, that photo of Times Square is just a rendering of how the message must have looked like. I just read up on the story to get better details. I think the message was written in Chinese. I think that part is accurate. The message was up for only about 30 minutes last Wednesday.

A Chinese ride hailing company bought time to advertise on New York's Time Square TV screens slamming Tesla for poor customer service and lost revenue. And the message was written in...Chinese...

I usually do not have conspiracy theories rolling around in my head without concrete information, but sometimes news coming out from China or...ahem, Trump's administration, I do decide to wear a tinfoil hat.

That message, my friend, at Times Square, could very well be political... We do not know the REAL motivations for this message. Could very well be what you are hoping it to be. But maybe its got deeper more sinister intentions...

(DISCLAIMER: There is a lot to process here. I hope you take the time to read it instead of mocking it...) Immigration is certainly a political issue... Especially the way you shoehorned it in the conversation... And...like I said...Europe's problems, Brexit, are not only social, which in turn is political, but economical and especially about power....which is in fact...political... politics: derived from an ancient GREEK word politika which means "affairs of the cities". Polis is city in GREEK. Politikos in ancient and in modern Greek means of or relating to citizens which in turn there is another GREEK word politis which is citizen. Politics in English refers to the governance of an area. And "governance" includes all kinds of stuff and ideas. And those stuff and ideas are governed by and to the people of that area. Much like that original Greek word and idea where the English word and idea comes from. Now...I understand CheersandGears rules and regulations...but in reality POLITICS are EVERYWHERE. In fact...discussing ChearsandGears rules and regulations are indeed POLITICS... We are a community. We are citizens of the domain CheersandGears and we have guidelines in place to govern our behaviours and how we are to interact with each other. We have rules and regulations and rights on how to post and where to post and what to post. We also have a leader leading us... So...THAT is why I get all antsy when some of us get all whiny about politics. Because politics are indeed everywhere. But wanted to make it clear to you immigration is indeed politics. Education, is indeed politics. RELIGION is indeed politcs. Automobile manufacturing sometimes falls into the category of politics. Even in a micro point of view ONLY consisting a small area not necessarily involving vast territories. Example: GM and Ford blocking Tesla to sell automobiles in Michigan without a proper dealership network. Firstly though, I wanted to make it clear that UK and French immigration have LITTLE to do with their Eurocentric problems. UK and French immigration is from their own dibble and dabble into their very own colonial and political ways of the past that have come back to haunt them a couple of centuries later. England and France wanted to settle and colonize the world. They conquered old and new places and instead of the English and the French to ASSIMILATE to their NEWLY CONQUERED territories, they wanted to CONVERT the CONQUERED into THEIR OWN WAYS. THAT opened up the door for the conquered to get "cultured" and then IMMIGRATE to their MASTER's homeland for better economic opportunities a couple of centuries later because English and French (especially English) colonialism sucked their conquered territories dry of all the riches of those territories... HOW IRONIC... Proof of that bolded statement I made? No taxation without representation comes to mind...

I thought we were not supposed to talk about politics in here... Dont you make it a point every single time to tell us about the forum rules about politics when politics are brought up? What does immigration in the UK and France have to do with soaring (or not) of EV sales in Europe? And since we are on this topic... Failed experiment you say? So that above...has failed? Because I thought, what that poem above represents, is one of many reasons why America is great...and why America got to be great in the first place... And let us not forget, that if we are not First Nation natives, we are all immigrants to this continent... I would agree with your sentiment about experiment failing if you and I were this guy... Because nobody asked that guy if we were actually welcomed here... We actually forced ourselves unto this place... The irony of your statement though... un-assimilated European "settlers" through the point of view of the...Redskins...the Injuns, the savages...right? Well, at least the French settlers at first, made peace and trade with the peoples here....so there is that... PS: EU is failing for other reasons...not for "un-assimilated" immigrants... PSS: The un-assimilated immigrants of French and British immigration has more to do with their own past colonial ways...and how karma has bitten them in the ass for that... and yup...oh the irony...

hypotheticals... On vehicles that dont exist with engines and motors that dont exist with possible future performance numbers that...you guessed it...DONT EXIST!!! Don Cherry said it best on what I wanna say about your hypotheticals...

Smart move?

I did not want you to think I was targeting you with this because in fact, I was targeting @ocnblu. But yeah...my post was more in compliment with yours...but I must admit, it does not seem to be that way.