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I love what you did with the front end. Great look! I love the blowers. Those are blowers, right? I love the colour. I love the interior. Its an awesome little truck.

We got those same tractors... This one is a prototype... But this one is not... I had a long rant and speech going on...*SIGH* Too political... Listen, John Deere, an American company has that domain covered. You could sleep in peace....

Well, the U.S. use to be an innovative country. To a certain degree, it still is. Silicone Valley, for better or worse, is in the thick of things regarding computer controlled transportation and electric powered vehicles. Detroit is still a driving force in the automotive landscape. Its just that Americans, it seems, still in 2019, do not want to embrace Detroit automobiles. Not to put you on the spot, but you do hate on Ford. What? You think foreign multi-nationals dont phoque around with our lives? Only the American ones? Volkswagen just recently got caught with a Diesel scandal... Look at what is happening with Renault-Nissan? If Goshn embezzled, shame on him. If Japan and Nissan wants to stick it to France and Renault, shame on Japan and Nissan. Look at Huwaei and China and Canada and the US... And...there it is!!! You cant, as an American, DENY other countries to grow...and get to do what you as an American got to enjoy since the end of WW2...and not have other peoples enjoy that too. And the thing is, some of you Americans are bitchin' about free trade not working...or that a Global economy is not working... Its working out great! It made lots and lots and lots of money for American CEOs and American corporations. It also made some countries grow...to the detriment of American people? Sure... But the thing is...if that would not have happened, then the rest of the world would be America's bitch? Its OK for Americans to have the world as their bitch, just as how the Brits had their colonials... But in reality, it aint OK... America would be fighting wars in her homeland worse than Sept. 11 if that were the case. Just ask the Brits... You guys, fought for your independence from them after all... But the growth of other countries is not, should not, be a detriment to your own growth. This aint a political forum, and this is a thread about a Chinese autonomous tractor...lets leave it at that.

Well...maybe. But not because of unmanned EV tractors. Like Balthy has said We've had that for a few years now. Mining trucks too. And Im sure the whole world over has had that. I mean....chinese built robotic home vacuums have flooded the market about a decade ago too... LG, Samsung, Roomba, Dyson... No biggie. What I fear though, is the education levels and the continued dummying down of our North American society that will lead us to our demise. And it be from our OWN doing. Not from outside foreign threats. We. We do it to ourselves.

Yeah...but...THAT is the key to his defense... This reminds me of Howard Hughes. OK...I may not know Hughes' full story, but I got the gist of it through the movie and this is the scene Im talking about... And the real senate hearings are very close to how it happened in the movie. Ive listened to the real hearings on Youtube as well.. You know...if it werent illegal for him to have a CEO reserve and for him to use it as he saw fit...well... Like he said... Howard Hughes was a tad smarter than him though...Howard told it how it was and maybe how possibly still is... EVERYBODY DOES IT...AND UNLESS THERE IS A LAW AGAINST IT, IT AINT ILLEGAL...IF IT IT'S MORALLY NOT CORRECT DO IT, THEN THE POWERS THAT BE TO CHANGE THE LAWS TO BE ILLEGAL...AND THEN I AND EVERYBODY ELSE WILL CHANGE HOW THEY DO BUSINESS... Now...this is not the same as Goshn's situation. But like he said, let the lawyers figure it out what is legal and illegal to what he has done...

Russians do it good too.

I like that too, but now we are bordering the x-rated...and we cant have that... Seeing that Im a married man and all. And well, you know...carnal thoughts are a sin... But seriously... What the human mind and body can accomplish is extraordinary. Instead of wasting our human brain activity and energy on electronic safety nannies and in the process making most of the unconscious human population believing that computers are faster than the human brain, maybe we could focus on actually training those unconscious human populations in being more attentive in DRIVING the actual phoquing car!!! Instead of flooding the phoquing car with attention sapping doodads, maybe we can get back to being safe phoquing drivers... And never-you-mind this bullshyte of computers are better for us and smarter than us and faster than us and believing that we need computers to do the most menial of tasks of everyday life and FORGETTING that it is US that created computers in the first phoquing place... Computers are supposed to make life easier for us. THAT IS IT! But somewhere along the line...we forgot that. And when someone points that out...he shouldnt be shunned, laughed at or ignored and tried to be corrected...

How the human brain communicates and reacts with other human brains... flawless interaction... Just awesome...

(not the right thread to hold a grudge...)

I like to defend the human brain and the human body. I LOVE technology. I LOVE the human brain and the human body even more. The thing is...I proved my points with gifs, videos, dialogue AND with websites... All morning and afternoon long, I argued with one, two people regarding this. I had other posters upvote falsehoods on the other poster's points...yet nobody was able to disprove MY thoughts, theories, gifs, videos, websites... The Bo Jackson video on top again just proves how the human brain and eyes process information and translates that to decision making and actions and reactions and movements in a split of a second. If we see Bo jackson as a computer/robot, we see how Bo Jackson's motors (muscles) and wheels (legs and arms) act fast to those actions taken by the processing computer (his brain)...overpowering everything in his sights...like a fictional robotic Terminator form the year 2025 when the machines take over... It was very very frustrating repeating the same thing over and over again... Yes...safety nannies are there as a safety net to be aware for us 100% of the time to help us when we are not....yet these nannies STILL need OUR physical inputs to steer clear of danger...how phoquing ironic!!! And this is why I ranted, to show you folk that our human brains do actually react faster than the computer does. EVEN if a computer could solve complex mathematical equations faster than we do...our brain does other stuff faster...like in actual decision making...and directs our muscles and our eyes and our awareness to our environment in a split second and corrects for a 2nd and 3rd event that happens in the seconds after the 1st event... And our brain does that...an will always do that...through 20 000 years of evolution and we keep on evolving and inventing... And all I needed was just a SINCERE...you are right OLDS... Not this bullshyte thing of trying to disprove me with falsehoods...

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/geeks-weigh-in-does-a-human-think-faster-than-a-computer/ Thanx, but you are being tooo kind for me.

http://news.mit.edu/2014/in-the-blink-of-an-eye-0116 https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/how-fast-can-the-human-brain-process-images.html

Its a good thing Im Canadian,eh?! Im not included in this 40% count... If we went with Canadians on this site though... I do not know how many Canadians there actually are on this site... There is Fap, Frogger, Suave, myself... So with only those 4...Id say about 25% of Canadians are phoquing stupid...

Well...yeah... To which I have mentioned that in the first post.... But...AGAIN... COMPUTERS are NOT faster than the human brain... Even the nannies react slow because all the billions and billions of codes that WE have programmed into the nanny...there is always something that does NOT compute well... And WE ALL have ADMITTED to it!!! But I have shown how the human brain...*SIGH* THROUGH EVOLUTION...20 000 years of evolution...our brain CORRECTS errors like these and takes the proper measures to adjust and well...we adjust...sometimes we dont and die... But sometimes we do alright for ourselves... yet another phoquing video... Just listen to what he says...if you wanna...because I KNOW you guys do NOT want to admit YOU are wrong...

Well... humans were never designed to be driving, flying...going in excess of...what? 3 mph walking and about 15 mph running in a short amount of time... Yet...we evolved to be doing just that. To make machines that make us go faster than the speed of sound and our brains and muscles act fast enough to control that machine. Or average joes to be driving their cars going 60 mph on a daily basis and we control that car. Our brains and our reflexes our eyes adapting to those speeds quite easily I might add... Sports and flying aircraft at the speed of sound does take a certain amount of training...I will admit. But we have evolved and our brains now does 60 mph...instead of 15mph... And we do it quite good... I repeat...computers are NOT faster than the human brain...

Sure. But...still does not change the fact that a human brain still processes the info fast enough to correct any imperfections to which Tesla says that in auto-pilot mode...a HUMAN is still required to take over the wheel if need be... Computers are NOT faster than the human brain... The human brain is a magnificent organ. Its capable of directing all kinds of information, controlling all the motor skills while making decisions, correct decisions and reapplying information and readjusting motor skills at a blink of an eye. It does that with the nervous system, the eyes and the human limbs. All communicate without a lapse in time...in perfect harmony. Something that computers do NOT do! All computers do is just read code...and act according to what that code says for it to do...granted. Today's computers have billions and billions amounts of code that computers process. It still takes a helluva lot of electricity, electric motors, servers and computing power to do so... We, as humans...all we got is just 1 brain, 2 eyes, 2 ears, 4 limbs and a central nervous system...producing enough electrical pulses tom power our muscles. And with the videos that I have posted both in the the Random Thoughts Thread and in this one, goes to show you you well our brain functions...WITHOUT codes and programs...\ Our codes and our programs is our evolution... ITS WHAT WE DO NATURALLY!!!! Therefore...NO computer...so far...is as fast as we are. We do not compute as fast as a computer. But we ACT AND REACT in our environment faster that it! It aint hard to comprehend that! Unless of course you guys do not want to admit Im right... Not the first time either...

There is no need for that many "eyes" when we drive and ALL of us our FOCUSED in OUR driving... But even then...our reflexes are fast that we CAN correct errors in others or our own... But this is what "eyes" you are referring to though? Because we are far far away from autonomous driving...these are compilations of Tesla Model S autopilot failures that TESLA ALWAYS says that HUMAN drivers NEED to be ALERT to take over the driving... because when we are alert, our brains do a fantastic job of avoiding accidents. Our reflexes, our experiences and our brain power do that! THIS is what other kinds of humans do with our brain power and athletic prowess We could even...fly...well...glide... I mentioned the very first Olympics when the Ancient Greeks dreamed of flying. Hell...Wilbur and Orville never thought this would happen either just over 100 years ago, but here we are...what OUR brain power could calculate to do... And if you are gonna skip these videos...at least watch this last one...to see how well and FAST our brains and our athletic prowess processes mathematical equations... You guys you try all you want to discredit me...Im GIVING VISUAL proof for god's sake!

Ummm...NO! And I GAVE YOU EXAMPLES ON REAL LIFE...and on the Random Thoughts thread (where you might not have gone to that thread, understandably so) then you would realize even more what I am trying to convey... software... Human deciphered programs for computers to follow. And YOU yourself said: Electronic hardware... If you thought about the human body and human brain as a machine, using our brain and central nervous system as our electronic hardware AND software, then you would realize where I am coming from. All that I said is and will always BE relevant. All that was said by ME is just COMPUTER programming. Programmed by humans using THEIR brains... It does not matter what domain we are talking about. The point is that the human brain acts and reacts FASTER than any computer as a computer NEEDS a PROGRAM to work... The program that a computer has does in fact COMPUTE the mathematical codes FASTER than what we as humans can do. BUT...in no way does it react faster than what WE do as humans... What do humans do? Well... The very first Olympics. The shot put and the long jump and the discus throw. The human brain, 2500 plus years ago, used math to make us humans try to jump or throw farther than our other human competitor. Angle of approach, speed and momentum to achieve long distance. You know...when we jump, we rock are bodies back and forth to achieve momentum and we try to get the ideal angle to launch ourselves. Well. We perfected that. Our brain perfected that. THAT was even before we created mathematical equations. Over the course of our existence , we deciphered mathematics and we also invented computers to...compute... 1110010010011100101001 1001001111000100100100 1110001110010101001001 1100100111000011110101 A computer will calculate faster than we will ever do. But...those calculations are limited in the codes and programs we have made for the computer to compute. Different computer and robotics with different codes do different things. Our brains, do not process data that way. But our brains DO process math, and through our 20 000 years of evolution, use our reflexes and muscles and eye sight and our hearing to act and react in our environment. And our athletic ability proves what we can do. And...computers if not programmed to run a simple task as simple as running the bases in baseball, will NOT perform that task. If we program the computer to run the bases, then it will run them...but how will it run the bases if a computer does not have limbs? Oh...it will calculate how fast we humans run bases. Oh... it may even be able to hit a 150 MPH fast ball that us humans cant hit let alone throw, but, will it be able catch a ball, look where the runner is running, decide if it has to throw at 3rd, or 2nd base or make an out at first or tag the runner all the while leaping to catch the ball, actually catching it, landing in a position to actually throw the ball, making the decision where to throw the ball, at an angle where the ball will get to its destination ON target...all in the a time frame of a second or two at the max? Because...we humans do that... And if you do not want to listen to that...then I cannot help you. PS: military computer radars and lidars and the such lock unto SEVERAL targets at once and do the necessary calculations to hit their targets FASTER than we can ever react to. True. But those computers are still performing MATHEMATICAL equations PROGRAMMED by US! A military computer cannot play baseball...the actual game. Not in video game format. THE actual game... If you noticed...the reference of me explaining an infield play is similar to what military radars and lidars and missile launchers do...but us humans actually do it. Our bodies and our brains do it. We have perfected our brain power and our reflexes and muscles to act and react quickly. US...our bodies. Our brains. The computer just follows codes...codes that WE programmed the computer to follow. So yeah...computers are NOT faster than the human brain...

Well...that is the ONE area where computers excel and humans fail... Although having emotions actually IS a wonderful thing. So...I take that back!

Yeah... Call him on it...as HE does NOT want to play nice. To learn... As I am JUST a humble hotdog vendor and hamburger flipper... HE on the other hand...HE is smarter than I and HE has NO time for me... PHOQUE the Dallas Cowboys!!! Look at what a HUMAN BEING was able to do....THAT is the message...I couldnt care less what the dude's uniform was... All I care is that dude's athletic ability and brain allowed him to do...

I was talking about a certain electrical engineer in one thread about human brains and computers and a certain other poster in another thread trying to insult a Lincoln product with one of Earth's most elegant and graceful animals. .. Im disappoint a tad. If we actually view the human being as a machine, we would see that the human being is quite remarkable. https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/nervous-system/human-body-make-electricity.htm How our hands are the perfect tool. How hands and fingers bend and grip to hold and throw and touch. Skin having little grooves in them for friction so we could grip. Sensors so we could feel. Sensors so we could know how hard or soft to grab. Our eyes. Two high definition cameras that focus instantly. That process information. Speed, angles, distance, depth, colour. And is directly connected to the brain that uses that information to make us act and react to our environment using our own electric superhighway through our very own wiring that is neatly tucked in our spinal cord and extends to our limbs... When something happens soooo fast that our eyes and brain do not catch, through our 20 000 years of evolution, through our learning experiences, our brain automatically fills in the mis-information, the voids, with past images and memories and compensates and reacts quickly to feed us that information so we dont get this When humans have neurological disorders, this is what happens, though, but on the most part, we good!!! Computers...all they do is just calculate formulas. Formulas that WE program into them. Formulas that WE have deciphered. We let the computers do the math as computers process that math faster than we do. But...all a computer does when it gathers input, it just converts that input into mathematical equations that WE have programmed it for and it does the calculations. Our brains do much much more than that. 1. Our brains do NOT convert the input into mathematical equations of ones and zeros 11010001000011110010010 Our brains just uses the info it gathers and makes decisions on the fly...it makes us act and react. The brain, through instinct, experience, evolution calculates our very own PERSONAL weight, speed athletic ability and makes us perform those athletic abilities. Like a computer does. But the computer just uses the codes WE programmed for it to do. WE, our brains, do that NATURALLY. And our brains calculate for errors on that that very moment. If the computer is NOT programmed to anticipate errors...it crashes... Our brain, our experiences, our instinct, our reflexes, our INTELLIGENCE compensates and self corrects... Computers, if not programmed to do so, will NOT do so... We do not need to be programmed, We do this AUTOMATICALLY and NATURALLY. This may happen...and we crash. Too much info overload But we can self correct quickly... most of the time He stumbled, hit his head in the dirt but was graceful enough to let the slide continue, pulled his hands in a defensive position to an offensive one to be safe at 3rd...and gets up like nothing happened...all in a blink of an eye...

Is it me or there is a complete lack of respect towards Earth's creatures today at Cheers and Gears? I understand that this is an automotive forum meant to celebrate machines and not the National Geographic forum...but still!

Its a shame that you are en electrical engineer... No patience? yeah... Lets call it that... I

No they dont... desktop computers do NOT have limbs and muscles to do anything...unlike humans THIS is how the fastest computer/robot reacts... This is how a human reacts: Computers do NOT have reaction times. They have computing times... We have computing times, plus we have reaction times... Computers are a LONG LONG way before they become robots and their electrical wires are as thin as ours and our as compact and cleanly tucked away into their metal bodies, unlike ours that are nicely placed in and around our skeletons with our muscles. Like I said, the human brain has 20 000 years of evolution behind it and our bodies are a marvel... No human created machine could top what our human brains could perform and how EFFICIENT our human bodies are and together how we act and react in our environment. With a computer, it takes a HUMAN invented code to perform. With humans...20 000 years of evolution is where we are at as of now...and we have FREE THINKING!!! All this to say, all these safety gadgets in our cars, if we too the time to INSTRUCT proper DRIVING skills instead of wasting our energy creating electronic gadgets, we wouldnt have the need for electronic safety gadgets. But then again, the human factor of errors and laziness and lack of attention will always bite us in the ass... But I repeat...NO COMPUTER is FASTER than we are acting and reacting...actual movement...when we travel. There are faster things than us in this world, sharks swimming in the water, cheetahs running in the wild, including F16s that we invented...and there will come a time when those fighter aircraft will be a computer flying it, but not because we cannot process that speed, but because our bodies CANT WITHSTAND THE G FORCES... Make no mistake about it, our brains are fast enough to calculate the speeds and our reflexes WILL be up to the task to accommodate those speeds through evolution, but there is one area where evolution stops. We do have limits. Our bodies our not equipped to withstand those G Forces. Our brains willl be smashed up against our skulls, that is instant concussion. Our internal organs would be thrashing around in our rib cage...but our brain and muscles and our electrical highways of nerves and the like...are definitely up to the task...