oldshurst442

Another reason?

Its cyclical, non?

Car sales go up...and up...and up...for 1-2-3-4-5-6 years, maybe a 7nth..maybe an 8th, but that is pushing it...

Then, car sales come down....and down....for 1-2-3-4 years, maybe a 5th....then they go up again for 1-2-3 years, maybe a 4rth..maybe a 5th...then, car sales come down....and down....for 1-2-3 years....

I dont read too much into that...in 2009 and 2010 and 2011, car sales were at an all time low just AFTER they were at an all time high....and right after 2012 we started getting back to per-banckrupty(pre bank melt down) levels just to finish at an all time high again just to see the cycle be in retreating mode!

But yes...higher car price tags dont help...

People will adjust...

People will buy used...people will either just keep their old car or trade up for a newer used car and when the used car market will deplete itself again (due to the high levels of new car sales prior...and now there are less nice used cars available because new car sales have dipped recently) then the cycle of new car sales will increase...again...only to decrease....only to increase...

Leases make this up and down cycle happen more frequently...

Im assuming about the leases part....

Ive observed the up and down thing...

My analysis and conclusion maybe all wrong though....but to let you in on a little secret...

I dont think Im far off from the truth!

Lincoln Town Car for me as well.

I aint no Euro-trash/snob douchebag. (A little harsh...but I said it for effect!)

I always equated millionaire with the Lincoln Town Car....blame the pinball game I played as a kid!

THAT IS A TOWN CAR Limo I ALWAYS LOVED!

American Cars! American Luxury! FTR! (Phoque The Rest)

@Cubical-aka-Moltar

I remember closing up my restaurant one Sunday night and having nothing to do that night, going to a video store right after and renting this movie RELUCTANTLY when this movie first came out on VHS to rent as there was nothing else available...

Boy..was I pleasantly surprised...WHAT A GREAT AND UNDER RATED MOVIE THIS STILL IS!!!

Im afraid that boat though, has since sailed away!

I dont know when, why and where they went astray, but the path they chose at the tail end of the last century or at the beginning of this one is clearly a path of epic failure!

They had the world in their hands in the 1990s and could have had a lot more with the movie franchise the Fast and the Furious....

What could have been is a question Mitsubishi should be asking themselves!

I dont think they could revive themselves in this market...

As you folk have realized by now, I like observing vehicles and pairing them up and asking our little community here which of the two they prefer to own.

Anecdotes and opinions of which vehicle is preferred or disliked over the other is ALWAYS welcomed and ENCOURAGED!

During my absence a couple of months ago for a few weeks, I saw several interesting movies with interesting cars...this week's comparison comes from the movie Grosse Pointe Blank.

The two cars in question:

1995 Lincoln Town Car

And a 1998 BMW 735iL

While the movie does not really focus on the two cars, the two cars in question do have important symbolism roles...

Anyway....which of the two do you prefer to putz around in as a daily driver representing your profession and status in your city?

A 3D printed word?

3 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

.........natural to order it in "Army Green"!  First tank.......

 You made a funny!

I would love that colour on the Wrangler.

But yeah....nice ride there, Blu!

1. Daily Driver

I wanted an Olds...but Oldsmobiles are now a tad too old to daily drive.

There is the Aurora...but if I choose the Aurora, I might as well choose a newer vehicle in the Pontiac Bonneville and one that is a tad more powerful than the Aurora V8 and and that point, the 2005 Bonneville GXP is probably that platform's best iteration...and it looks better than the Aurora...sleeker, sexier and waaaaay less bloated....

so....2005 Pontiac Bonneville GXP

2. SUV

I usually choose a Jeep Wrangler in these situations, but after doing the last Dream Garage Thread, I got jealous of what I gave to FordCosworth...

I want one too!

This one. From 1985.

3. Family car/cruiser.  A shout out to Cubical.

The newest Lincoln Town Car I could get within the rules...2007.

4. Week-end warrior car.

I just LOOOOOVE these...

It wont be the big block classics as those may exceed the 15K limit...but it be the Disco era T-Top with the choked 400 or Olds 403 or whatever they came in....1979 vintage where Pontiac sold a ton of them and so the price aint high just yet ....

In whatever colour combo is available but definitely the Bird is on that hood with those snowflake hwheels. Preferable like the pic, but blue will do....or white.

Or gold....

The silver anniversary one may exceed 15K though!

Like a BOSS!

This is how Id be doing it EVERYWHERE ID GO!!! Yes...in 2017 as a 44 year old father of 2 children and happily married!

On 2017-04-28 at 9:38 AM, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Well, you certainly haven't been boring..    

Thanx...but I dont think Drew will appreciate you encouraging me in any way...

On 2017-04-28 at 10:01 AM, A Horse With No Name said:

That would be fantastic....were I to be ten years younger, i would love to own a Ducati.

Insane people rarely are....(ducks from wrench thrown from Montreal...just kidding bro!)

Me crazy?

No!

This is fun....so Ill continue...

@FordCosworth

See he doesnt appreciate the boyracer look....and I dont know how he feels about Ford's new GT...and he doesnt like a Vette for the 'fake' vents it has because boyracer for 1 brand has a different definition for Ford for him and the Ford GT seems to employ the same type of 'fake' air regulators and go fast stuff, I will NOT take a chance by granting him a new Ford GT...so...Ill be giving him a 4 door Corvette in the form of a VLF Destino. No need to worry Mr. FordCosworth, this car does not have the burnt valved LS7 under the hood...this one has the very reliable LS9 under the hood. Very sleek and sexy car.

And...for his second car...a military surplus pick-up truck. Built like tanks these Toyotas are!!! He will appreciate the ruggedness...I hope!

@dfelt

For you, always complainin' how tall you are and how cars dont fit you too good....and you lovin' your Trailblazer SS and you lovin' big American Iron...

A 1940s redux and restomodded Dodge Carryall Power Wagon...it may not have the speed of the Trailblazer SS, but it hauls ass in ways the Trailblazer can only dream of....

For me...the ultimate freedom fightin' Hell Yeah American icon is NOT a Hummer...its either the one and only Jeep or Dodge's WW2 Power Wagon! And this soooooo fits you like a glove!

But you need your new American car that is big to fit you and is fast and is....American...

A Cadillac XT6 is heading your way. The DOHC V8 one...you just have to wait another year for it...hence no pic....or a tiny wee one of the mundane TTV6 variety.

And now...back to my unfinished business. 

@Cubical-aka-Moltar

You do own or owned a Mustang, a fox body Mustang. Cool car...I guess...its just that particular Mustang is not my cup of tea, but this is about you and NOT about me....

I see you as a cool cat...a cool cat that deserves a cool cat...just not a Jaguar as that belongs to @A Horse With No Name, but a Cougar.

A 1969 Cougar Eliminator 428 CJ...a car classy car with style, muscle and pizzazz.

And your second car...

I think that you would enjoy a 2018 Lincoln Navigator...so...its yours.

On 2017-04-25 at 1:16 PM, A Horse With No Name said:

Depends on the car enthusiast, lots of enthusiasts I know like automatics.

Yup.

I am one of these types of guys.

I could see how a manual transmission gives joy to people, I for one dont have that joy...

Yes, yes...correct gear for heading into a curve (which may mean downshifting) at the perfect angle and speed, then exiting curve and possibly up shifting...

Another scenario....downshifting to get those revs high and then blasting past another car in front of you while the engine is wailing....

Another scenario....power shifting slamming the gears into place preferably in a Ferrari style gated shifter...and the best of the best dont use a clutch....

You see....none of that does NOT amuse me...

I find joy only in the power shifting slamming the gears into place preferably in a Ferrari style gated shifter scenario...

The other scenarios...well, I am not a track car kinda guy...

And to downshift to pass a guy...well, I prefer this scenario instead.

I got me a muscle car...

A FULLSIZED one or the official mid-sized type....

IM CRUISING nice and slow! Checking to see if there are any nice females around I could honk and whistle at....(yes...in 2017 that is sexual harassment...) Maybe I stop at a burger joint and buy myself a cheeseburger and milkshake...enjoying the sun and the Rock-N-Roll tunes on the radio....or reggae or Greek music...or just the gurgling sounds of my big cubic inch V8...meaning, Im paying more attention to my surroundings rather than the road itself...I get no kicks with the race car antics at 25 MPH...then all of a sudden, a douche bag in front of me with some sort of overpriced garbage decides he wants a piece of my American metal when all I do is just mash the pedal, anticipate the kickdown and leave the phocker in my dust....all the while hearing my V8 roar to life...and no effort was given...just a slight downward motion of the accelerator pedal...

On the highway....a big American AUTOMATIC transmission V8 car = SMOOTH SAILING!!!

On the highway especially on long road trips...a manual transmission car is usually left at the top gear for long periods of time...

Besides....MOST American roads are STRAIGHT....no curves to really benefit the joys of shifting...AND...stop and go traffic puts a kink in the left foot clutch, right hand shift, left foot clutch, right hand shift, left foot clutch, right hand shift enjoyment every 2 seconds...

I got to do some chores...Ill be back to finish this off. I got 2 more peeps to do.

@balthazar

I know he is a Poncho guy.

Im Canadian.

I give him exclusive Canadian Pontiac. (OK, they really are Chevys underneath with non Pontiac engines but Chevy engines and he is less of a Chevy guy than he is a Pontiac guy, but these Pontiacs are special in the Pontiac world non the less.)

1967 Pontiac Parisienne 2+2 Coupe

The second car is tougher to do.

He is a classic car guy so Ill just continue that way.

Something about him and his posting style makes me believe he would enjoy this 1949 Buick Roadmaster convertible in that very same colour oomplete with the white walls!

@A Horse With No Name

Its tough to beat Frisky's lists...they are just, incredibly awesome choices and spot on 100% representative of the posters he chose. I dont thing Ill be able to match that...

But...Ill try. This is how I view you.

Incredibly calm, cool and collected. A smooth, class act gentleman.

Jaaaaaaag XJ12 series III

Its under rated as a status car, but If I restomod it for you to bring it into the 21st century,  I think it be very represented of you and quite unique in this world.

And something modern to continue that theme but a tad more sportier. Not exactly a Ferrari 308/328 of Magnum PI or Beverly Hills Cop magnitude. But hot and sexy and red and Italian just the same. Abarth 124 by Fiat via Mazda.

@Frisky Dingo

I LOVE the choices! You know me quite well. And yes, a BMW M6 convert is something I lust over. In the dream car garages, I choose LS 4rth gen Firebirds mostly but that Firehawk is sweeeeeeeet!

So, in its your turn!

Id be giving you a BMW M3 in return.  I could be giving you an air cooled 911 of some sort, but the rules do say to do something different. You always choose a 911 in dream car garages.

A 1995 mainland Europe only E36 M3 GT.  I think an owner of this model separates the connaisseur and poseur and you, Frisky, are definitely the real deal.

And for your new car:

I know you loved your 4 Runner. Im giving you one back! You cant have my Unimog, but you'll have a TRD Pro at your disposal.

@A Horse With No Name @dfelt

Yeah. It is a neat feature. It also keeps track of how fast the car is traveling in real time.

I knew of this when he bought his car a couple of years ago but I forgot about it until yesterday.

@2b2 THANK-YOU!

PS: It was a $1000 worth of maintenance....

PSS: Tesla gave him a Dodge Durango R/T as a loaner???!!!

That is a WTF kinda of a loaner car.  All other times his had another Model S.

I had to go to work today...no day off as I thought I have!

My partner had an issue with his Tesla Model S....

He brought it in at the Tesla Service Center for some maintenance work.

So...As he was telling me...he was tracking his car for fun on his App thingy when he saw his car leave the Tesla Service Center to be found at the Montreal Bugatti Dealership. No big deal he thought as that is where Teslas get maintained sometimes...at the Bugatti dealership...

Cool is what I thought when he told me!

A while later, he checked upon his car again only to find it 6-7 miles away from the Bugatti Dealership parked in front of a private house...

He called Tesla right away demanding to know where his car was!

The folks at Tesla did not have an answer for him and that is when he phoned me to come and replace him so he could set things straight....

Turns out, the President of the Bugatti Dealership forgot something at his house so he took my partner's Model S to retrieve what he forgot at his home...

So far, my partner is getting his maintenance done and changing his tires for free...

Maybe other things too....he will pursue this further on Monday!

Just now, Drew Dowdell said:

They are a subset, yes...   but we still have to step in sometimes when things go unreported

I also added:

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(more or less, most of the time)

(Because Im sure regular posters are fed up so they complain too?)

 

But yeah....thanx for answering me.

PS:  I HOPE I DID NOT CAUSE TOO MUCH ANNOYANCE WHEN I JOINED THIS FORUM FOR YOU AND THE REGULARS!

I FEEL GUILTY IN WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED IN HERE THE LAST WEEK OR SO AND ALTHOUGH I WASNT THE MAIN ISSUE, I CERTAINLY DID HAVE A PART IN THAT!!!

41 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Yeah, I'm sure it is more annoying for us admins because we have to moderate such disputes when people go "running to tell teacher".

A question...

Its more like a hypothesis or an assumption.

The people that whine about others and "run to tell teacher" are...Im guessing and assuming, THE ones that are THE problem. (more or less, most of the time)

(Because Im sure regular posters are fed up so they complain too?)

Am I right or wrong in this hypothesis?

10 hours ago, Scout said:

Perhaps. But not by 2030. Too many stubborn old farts like me still around that prefer the good old V8. Maybe one day. But not that soon IMO. 

 

And I forgot to mention in the previous post,. The wheels all go round and round. 

Not this wheel, this wheel goes scrape...scrape...scrape...

I like because you put some thought into circumventing the rules! 

5 minutes ago, Scout said:

Ok, here goes. 

Off road truck or SUV 

Power Wagon. 59K

Daily driver 

Power Wagon already paid for. I daily drive my truck. 

Long distance 

Power Wagon,. It was the crew cab. Already paid for. I would use the fully optioned luxury truck for long distance with my travel trailer/toy hauler. 

 

I believe that takes care of one price category. Leaving me to combine the others making about 120k available.

 

Track burner

Hellcat or Demon if the Demon is in 120K budget. 

 

Done

Nice!

But Frisky dont like when we circumvent the rules!

I should know....I almost always circumvent the rules and he lets me know about it!