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Recently just got back into the sport of paintball. Holy $h! I forgot how fun aaaaand expensive it is! ..Now I'm looking at buying new stuff again.. Anybody here play????
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How'd that work for the F150..?
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I'm not being stubborn because it is FCA. I made a joke because it is a brick flying through the air and the Wrangler already only gets 21mpg on the highway. What makes me think they won't do all of those tricks on a smaller cheaper truck? because it is cheaper and technology costs money. Adjustable ride height on a mid-sized Wrangler truck? Active leveling system? The cost to do that stuff. Grill shudders? Sure. We know it won't have the same curves as the Ram so that part is out as well. You chose to get defensive like you do whenever anybody says anything that isn't overly positive about FCA. It was a joke. Don't take everything 'not positive' so personally.
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You are taking it further than you need. A greater rake to the windshield/grille does no have to take the Jeep look away at all. Here is an interesting AllPar article about the 18 Wrangler. http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/wrangler/2017.html No, I think you're underestimating how much work the other manufacturers have put into achieving 18/24 for the v6 4x4 Colorado and 18/23 for the v6 4x4Tacoma. If you don't think they put an emphasis on fuel economy and aerodynamics and then Jeep will be the first? C'mon. That flat windshield(raked or not), flat roof, fender flares.. all things that go on a vehicle aiming at improved "slipperiness". Riddle me this Batman. they can already get 16/23 from the MUCH larger and MUCH heavier Ram with the same Pentastar 3.6 V6/8 speed and even 15/21 from the 4x4 1500 Ram 4x4 with the 395 HP Hemi/8 speed. Seriously............. Do you think FCA is inventing aerodynamic air flow on the 2020 Jeep Truck for the first time ever. You honestly are either being that stubborn or you seriously think GM and Toyota have never put their trucks in a wind tunnel looking for an edge. If you don't think they have then maybe, just maybe, look at that lower front diffuser on the Colorado that make it appear only a few inches off the ground when you look at that. There is your riddle. And positive aero flow as less to do about how large and heavy a vehicle is as opposed to how the air is being placed and used.
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You are taking it further than you need. A greater rake to the windshield/grille does no have to take the Jeep look away at all. Here is an interesting AllPar article about the 18 Wrangler. http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/wrangler/2017.html No, I think you're underestimating how much work the other manufacturers have put into achieving 18/24 for the v6 4x4 Colorado and 18/23 for the v6 4x4Tacoma. If you don't think they put an emphasis on fuel economy and aerodynamics and then Jeep will be the first? C'mon. That flat windshield(raked or not), flat roof, fender flares.. all things that go on a vehicle aiming at improved "slipperiness".
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I agree, though from photos it is looking mini GC. I think they just got such a great design with the Patriot. it just screams Jeep with elements of the XJ and Wrangler baked into the design. Agreed, I like that they still have something other than the Wrangler with the harder, tougher body lines that isn't getting too soft. Even though I'm not a huge an of the current Patriot/Compass I still like the idea that they aren't all "cutesy" yet.
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The big one, right? I've seen only a few. Actually, probably just a tad less than the Ram. I don't see near as many of the 2500/250's as I do the small Transit Connects and slowly seeing more of the little Chevy vans as well.
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Yeah that's why all the CUVs are only a couple inches off the ground if you look at the very bottom of the front end. Heck, just last year I waslked up to a Tahoe or Yukon in our parking garage and knelt down and the front diffuser had to be only 5 or 6 inches off of the ground, enough to maybe clear a parking block.
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Have you ever seen a Wrangler..? lol But in all seriousness, the changes that would have to be made for something like that would make it look way less Wrangler than I think the customer base would want. Those same aero tricks you speak of, are being done by everybody and if the v6 4x4 Colorado is 17/24 then a boxy version of that just doesn't make any sense to match it. To make it a Wrangler sibling it will still need an upright and squared off windshield and grille. so either way it won't be as raked as the Tacoma or Canyonado.
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Give me the 94hp/99tq version please. lol Back in the day I had an '84 Ranger 2.3L that put out a pavement scorching 82 HP... Now thats laughable My '84 Escort diesel had 52hp...and an AM radio. I could spin the front tires on gravel. Hahaha my first motorcycle was 100hp, and my second was 123hp/56tq.
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That is interesting and must be a regional thing as I see transits but not in the numbers compared to the ugly new RAM van and GM's Vans especially their new Chevy mini van. That thing is everywhere around Seattle. We're more Transits here as well. Transits and the ugh-oh Ram. But it appears to me more of the Transit Connect and Transits here. Well, there are a lot of the Connects here for sure. I rarely see either other other two smaller work vans.
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Oh well that isn't near as bad then. I do LOVE the VW HID's. Something about the color, shape, LEDs, just a good looking head light. My friend was actually pondering upgrading to a '16 but the one that he came across was only like 25k but had the standard lights, cloth interior and he just couldn't step out of his loaded Autobahn. He also digs the HIDs on VWs and really didn't want to just get a newer car but most everything else was a slight downgrade as car as interior bits and such. Yeah, those are good lookin' for sure. Especially if they are half the price! Are they 700 a piece or 700 for the pair? I thought HIDs on the GTI were like 1500 EACH, or somewhere in that ball park.
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Aren't those lights like 1500 a piece though? That's about as unrealistic as adding the e-diff...imo... That's awesome you work at a VW dealer! I actually have two friends who are obsessed with VW(the one with the '12 GTI and another who drives a '12 or '13 Jetta TDI 6spd). The one with the Jetta will never own anything that isn't VAG, he's just like that. When he's in the market for a new car I'll definitely pass him your way. You'll just have to let me know what dealership you're at. He lives in IL but works at Boeing so he's in STL daily.
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Yes, it will be based on the Wrangler so it will be printing money for FCA. I wonder how bad of fuel mileage the Jeep truck will get compared to the other trucks who have at least visited wind tunnels. It'll be rated 18/19 city/highway, lol. Actually the current Wranglers are already rated over 20 MPG on the hwy with the old 5 speed auto. This will be based on the new Wrangler which will be lighter, more aerodynamic, and have the 8 speed auto. m I say it will not have a problem matching Colorado FE engine for engine. No chance it would match the Colorado if they are working on similar drivelines. I mean even if the Wrangler truck had the newest 8 or 9spd from the FCA camp you're still talking about pushing a brick through air. I highly doubt they will be ballsy enough to change the look of the new Wrangler enough to be considered "aero efficient" by anybody's standards. I can't imagine it changing much from the current Wrangler's 16/21. I would definitely expect improvements but not a whole lot. 17/24 in its most efficient trim. Now if it has a 2WD version that would get another little bump over the Wranglers but I just don't see a way that this will match a Colorado's 18/26 in the v6 at all.
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Give me the 94hp/99tq version please. lol
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The only thing that seems to hold hatchbacks back is price, if you ask me. They always have a decent premium over the sedan. The Focus Sedan starts at 17,225 and the hatch starts at 19,015. That's significant in the economy class of cars.
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Congrats! One of my best friends drives a '12 Autobahn GTI(4dr, DSG, and black like yours) and he loves everything about it. The only thing he wishes it had more of was power. But that's getting a little greedy as there's a ridiculous aftermarket for them and the base to build upon is fantastic! Is the Performance Package like a 10hp bump on top of the '15 bump as well?
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Not too many people can say their 460hp corvette is their slow car I LOVE that your getting the tiny right away. Tint cleans up the looks on even the best looking cars. How dark are you going? -
Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous. Congratulations, Casa!
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Yeah a GTI was my next guess from the "very, very close" hint.
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Yes, it will be based on the Wrangler so it will be printing money for FCA. I wonder how bad of fuel mileage the Jeep truck will get compared to the other trucks who have at least visited wind tunnels. It'll be rated 18/19 city/highway, lol.
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FR-S?
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BR-Z isn't a bad choice. Hmmm... STI?
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Nice! What kind of gains are to be expected with the tune?
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I was actually thinking Miata but I just didn't actually think Frisky bought one. He seems more into things with a little more ass under the hood... like a C63!
