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What gets old is when someone lumps one person in with others when that one person did not "down the whole company". He simply presented his opinion.
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Sales: Sales Figure Ticker: March 2017
surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Sales Figure Ticker
Escalade-2862 Navigator-897 Surely the new Navigator will close the gap. -
It is most likely offset by being slightly larger plus having more "gadgets" than the previous gen. All of that adds up.
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Any mention of the weight of this? I know it shaved a lot of weight going aluminum, which is a good thing but I'm curious as to the actual weight savings and how it compares to the competition.
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Talk about putting words in ones mouth. Ease up Stew. I only pointed out that a larger number of LX models were relegated to fleet than they were when they first came out. I'm not "acting like" they are all fleet and never said anything of the sort. Ease up and understand that I'm not hating on them (for more than obvious reasons). My LX was the best car I have ever owned. However, that does not blind me to the fact that the Charger and 300 are on borrowed unless FCA does something miraculous. So far, I'm just not seeing it. It sucks that FCA has taken this long to even address the damn cars properly.
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Oh good grief man. I'm not denying the fleet presence of other makes and models but you are not looking through objective glasses if you think that fleet sales have not become a larger part of Charger sales. You already came right out and said that the Charger was purpose built for police fleets.
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No it was not. It was not purpose built for it. It was just a bonus because it was a full size sedan, which law enforcement preferred at the time. It was retail first, fleet second. Same with the Magnum and 300. Even if so, it's money maker has always been the retail market with a little help from fleet. Now it is completely reversed and that is not good no matter how you try to spin it. The fact that you are trying to point out these other cars as being fleet queens proves my point and it's not good for any of them long term but at least they continue to update their models unlike FCA in the last few years (in regards to the Charger and 300).
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There is a big difference between the Caprice being fleet, which was its singular purpose from the start and cars like the Charger, Impala (previous gen) or Crown Vic, which were for the retail market and due to neglect of the platform ( or for whatever reasons) became more fleet queen than retail darling. Again, you know I'm a LX fan but let's be realistic about things here. A Volt would absolutely be the perfect solution for me. I would never have to fill up during my weekly work commute (which is only ten miles one way) and if I want to hit the highway for a long drive, no problems there either.
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You are clearly not looking at both maps. Most people would not have an issue with the current set up that will only grow as time passes. I love the LX cars but they are selling better becuase of an increase in fleet sales. Feel free to look that up. The other cars you mentioned, like the Panther series, stayed on that long for the same reasons why the LX continues on, fleet market.
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As dfelt, showed below, there are thousands of other charging stations not owned by Tesla to help fill the void. I have a love/hate with the Demon. I love the fact that it aopologizes for nothing. I hate that this comes off as a desperate last gasp by FCA in regards to Dodge. Hopefully I'm wrong but that's what it seems like to me.
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Sparse wasn't the issue you presented though. You said they were only in the big cities and this map shows that is not true. They are growing by the month as well so plenty more are coming. You have to start some where, after all and starting on major interstate routes is the right way to start it.
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You are wrong regarding the charging stations. There are plenty and they are not just in big cites.
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RIP Charlie Murphy. You helped bring us the funniest skit ever seen and for that, we thank you. I'm all for a public flogging just to make an example of them.
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A vast improvement over its predescessor and long overdue but I'm with Stew on the floating screen. It seems like an afterthought and the dash, while nice, seems way overdone. Still, a vast improvement and it will most certainly sell in greater numbers.
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What else did you expect?
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Put all the cash you want on the hood but if you have to do that with a $29K compact, then it proves my point about it being too much money. I do agree with your assessment about the hatch though. That would be the only way to go for me.
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$29K+ for a Cruze? As nice as it is (for its class anyway), there is simply no way in hell I would fork over that kind of cash on a compact car. That is insanity IMO. Aside from the price, GM has done a wonderful job of improving their status in the compact game.
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Meanwhile Cadillac enjoys more sales and a higher ATP. They'll be fine against Lincoln.
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Nevermind his blatant contradiction "putting the power down" when the V puts it down better than most in the world. Fact is that the V was the better performer in that test and the only thing they really railed on was regarding Cue.
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"The Escalade is the only high end Cadillac" "I'm talking about $80-$100K base price when I say high end" Put the bar down. We are done here.
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Way to sidestep the fact that you were wrong in stating that Cadillac has nothing upper end other than the Slade. Oh and a half million dollar car hyper car better damn sure beat everything. The CTS-V is more than $100K but nice attempt at moving the bar again. Btw, a base Slade starts at $73K. Maybe you didn't notice that while you were attempting to move said bar. The AMG E Class is also not high end, by your own definition since the base model starts well south of $80K.
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This would disagree with your assessment that Cadillac has nothing high end other than the Slade.
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Again you are making an assumption even though you acknowledge the fact that you haven't actually driven one though. It's like someone telling you that the Escape gets "x" MPGs, citing only paper stats while never having driven one, while you claim you get "y" MPGs. Being that you actually own one, who am I more likely to believe? Paper stats or actual ownership experience? Just offering a little perspective here on a subjective matter.
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But you still haven't driven it while dfelt has so... And I'm not stating this to be a jerk Btw (silly troll down vote aside) but "drivers car" is truly subjective here and you're kind of poopooing it without having ever driven one and then criticize dfelt about it even though he has driven it. To him, it may be a nice drivers car, making this a very subjective argument.
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