surreal1272

Understandable. I'm more of a Challenger man myself. The extra room is a plus for me (and it sits just like my old Magnum which is a huge plus).

Camaro-8737 Mustang-8063 Sorry. I couldn't resist. Seriously, this perfectly illustrates what was talked about yesterday regarding across the board sales struggles and why it will continue. Looks like everyone took a hit last month.

Rising prices+rising debt+stagnant wages=our current automotive climate.

No doubt. Bureaucracy sucks at every corporate job. It's not an easy job and you constantly have to play all sides to make it work. It is a thankless job from what I understand because of the corporate climate these days.

Hope he was not responsible for that product or the ad lol.

Random funny for the day (and somewhere, someone in an marketing department is banging their head against a brick wall)!

Very sharp ride CP. One of the most underrated cars ever made. Congrats.

@ccap41-Did I say something untrue? Seems to me you did the exact same thing as you are accusing dfelt of doing yet...

Very interesting concept. Hope you will see this through but I certainly understand the need to just shut it all down.

Or "Rolls eyes" or "Damn right, I'm trolling!"

Congrats. Very nice!

I noticed that too. Very interesting for them to go that route.

Yeah you did but this has gone on long enough. What have we learned from the Venezuela crisis? Soicalism bad Capitalism good or so I hear.

Well you couldn't be more wrong on how that happened. Olds was going on about hockey and after that you interject with some remark about liberals on a car thread. I said politics had jack to do with the subject of the thread and you replied with "but hockey is", hence my hockey and politics hint. You tried to call me for putting you on notice and not Olds. My response was deleted to obvious reasons.

I'll leave you with a hint. Hockey and politics.

Drew is right but you know full well what I'm talking about so there really is no reason to be coy about it.

Yet you got mad at me last week for not going after Olds on another thread while I criticized your post. How is that not also crying like a perpetual child? You have done the same thing when I criticize Ford but not GM (which is not true btw). Anyway, this has veered way off the subject and maybe needs a thread of its own.

I've said what I needed to say on it and this is taking the subject of the thread to far off course.

@hyperv6--Remember. You brought up capitalism as the reason for this country's early success while clearly ignoring or just dismissing how it got there, hence my initial reply to you. What is f@#ked in this country is when you ignore certain parts of history to suit an agenda as you have done here (with the support of others who have a selective memory of how this country was built).

See ya' No offense but it just seems like you are more concerned with being right and lording over everyone with your vast knowledge than actually listening to what others are saying.

Sorry but you are deflecting. "Was it right by today's standards"? That is irrelevant to the claim you made that this country survived off of capitalism for the first 150 years. My response was a factual counter because that "success" was built off the backs of the poor, the slaves, and a relentless pursuit of greed by people of power (see the history of the railroad for reference here). And way to insult the collective intelligence here with your first two sentences. Seems like you are the one who needs a clue here.

He did not say anything about your family being Puritans. You said this, "Not being doom and gloom here but my family came here in the 1600's to escape pusicution in Europe. They had to take care of them selves as no one else would. It made them tougher, smarter and self sufishiant." The 1600s were all about the Puritans hence Drew's response.

Getting down voted is one thing. However, as it has already been pointed out by the mods, when you go out of your way to troll someone or a subject without any contribution to the subject, then it becomes a problem. If you don't see a problem with that kind of trolling, then you are part of the problem (and no I am not talking about you ccap41, just in general). I also take issue with people who down vote the same posters, over and over, regardless of content. It has been proven tenfold here. I had two (not naming names) that went at me nonstop for a month last year with two downvotes a day. That is what leads me to where I am today regarding this. I think the upcoming changes will be a better fit here and cause far less headaches. What is interesting is the narcissistic way of which some people conduct themselves while accepting zero responsibility for their actions. I have taken my lumps and I have been forthright with the mods when there has been an issue with my actions. I know when I've messed up or gone too far. Others should learn to do the same. Thats is just my opinion and don't take it as a gospel truth.

No worries on my end. I got what you were saying. The issue has been dealt with and I'm fine with it.