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  1. surreal1272
    Name one Cadillac that sells in such low numbers, and is still for sale today, over the course of the last twenty years? Example of what I'm talking about? When the ELR sold jack squat, Cadillac killed it after barely a year. The G wagon has sold in paltry numbers for years so show us a Cadillac that was sold for that long in such low numbers.And in sorry but if I'm Mercedes Benz, selling 3000 of a vehicle that has had basically the same form factor and look since 1972 isn't exactly in line with what they have done with everything else they have ever made. It is clear that this exists purely to bilk a clueless customer by selling on some mysterious prestige. Name one Cadillac with an average transaction price of $145,000. Not the point and there are more advanced cars that sell in better numbers and a higher price so that kind of "logic" can be applied to Benz as well. You do understand that right? Care to actually answer the original question?
  2. surreal1272
    I'm just taking a similar trac WRT MB as you do WRT Cadillac, so you can see how it comes off. Because, you know, that filter is seeming broken. Besides, you are doing the VERY SAME THING; you constantly trumpet MB sales records & rates, yet you're excusing the lousy sales of the g-wagoon. Odd. But Balth, they sold more than 3,000 last year after having only sold barely 1,000 for years. That clearly shows a demand LOL and justifies MB milking it for all it's worth.
  3. surreal1272
    Name one Cadillac that sells in such low numbers, and is still for sale today, over the course of the last twenty years? Example of what I'm talking about? When the ELR sold jack squat, Cadillac killed it after barely a year. The G wagon has sold in paltry numbers for years so show us a Cadillac that was sold for that long in such low numbers.And in sorry but if I'm Mercedes Benz, selling 3000 of a vehicle that has had basically the same form factor and look since 1972 isn't exactly in line with what they have done with everything else they have ever made. It is clear that this exists purely to bilk a clueless customer by selling on some mysterious prestige.
  4. surreal1272
    Well the S-class is the #1 selling car over $95,000, and by a wide margin. But a G-wagen starts at $115,000 and 2/3 of them sold are AMG models that are $140,000. When you compare a G-wagen to BMW i8, Audi R8, or Bentley sales, the G-wagen sales look pretty good. And G-wagen sales are up this year, and they were up in 2015 over 2014. The sales keep rising, and this for a vehicle that Mercedes was going to end production on in 2006. But the fans wanted them to keep making, and they listened to their fan base. G-wagen sales were up 17% in 2015, and are up 23.8% this year. It's easy to go up when you only sell 260 at the same time last year LOL.
  5. surreal1272
    Stop. Just stop. If this were Mercedes, you would be preaching whatever foo foo service they were offering. Regardless of what you think about their product, this a good move by Lincoln.
  6. surreal1272
    Nope it is properly priced, $8300+ cheaper than the GLC300 4matic with more features and function and better materials than the MB. This is a way better auto all the way around then MB is currently building and selling with more HP and Torque to boot. If you feel that about the Envision and XT5, then you have to reevaluate the MB CUV lineup that has the same problem and lower quality materials at this point as the Envision has surpassed the build quality of the MB. Let me know when Buick puts a 500 hp V8 in the Envision to compete with what M-B is doing. You mean the 469 HP GLC that isn't out yet? Buick and GM is not concerned with a 469HP CUV that 300 people a year will buy.
  7. surreal1272
    Do they service Corvette Z06's at the same place they service $14,000 Sparks and City Express commercial vans? I don't really care what else is serviced where my car is serviced. My original post here was about how Ford probably wants to keep the Lincoln owners separate make it seem like Lincoln is different than Ford. Because in reality those Lincolns have a lot of Ford parts and Ford trim pieces and drive like Fords. If Ford wants to help Lincoln they need to get Lincoln it's own chassis and own bodies. Yeah, that wasn't the defense you were using a few months ago before you got called out in it but that's a discussion for another time. Btw, asking Ford to do that is literally the opposite of how multi-make companies handle that. Ask VW. Ford has also done a better job of making Lincolns look less like their Ford cousins and that is a fact.
  8. surreal1272
    I'm not really sure what a "condensing" reply is. Thought it was pretty lengthy myself.
  9. surreal1272
    Then I'm about to give you a better reason to down vote me. I defended your favorite brand (something you have complained about my lack of in past) and you down vote me anyway? Here's the reason for you. Go F yourself if you have nothing better to offer here. MT will gladly take your trolling there. I contributed to the damn subject here and you just behave like a twelve year old dick with ears. There. Now you have a legitimate reason for the down vote.
  10. surreal1272
    The XT5 is only six inches longer and starts at $4K more. That is not "basically the same price". It's no different than the "less than different from each other" C Class and CLA ( and no I am not talking about price).
  11. surreal1272
    The S Class grill looks bigger because the S Class is a bigger car. They share the same basic design now across at four different models. Balthazaar is right.
  12. surreal1272
    At least they put out the Bug Creek fire. I-17 is no fun with one lane of traffic and my wife and I are headed up to Chino Valley tomorrow.
  13. surreal1272
    Happy late Canada say to you Suave. Canada DAY. Damn phone! Here's the deal man.... AUTOCORRECT MAY BE AN AUTONOMOUS WRITING AID. BUT IT IS NOT THE WRITER. DO YOU BLAME THE PHONE, FOR YOUR LACK OF SPELLING? YOU MUST BE AWARE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN AT ALL TIMES, FOR SAFETY AGAINST THE GRAMMAR NAZI. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE...ARRRRR TECHNOLOGY....ARRR PHONE COMPANY BAD BAD....SHOULD BE SACKED, MADE BANKRUPT...AUTOCORRECT, BANISH IT...WE MUST ISSUE LICENCES FOR PHONES, FOR SAFETY, PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDJUMICATED!!! Lol Yes I blame the phone for not being more accommodating to my rigid ass thumbs. Good one Sauve.
  14. surreal1272
    Happy late Canada say to you Suave. Canada DAY. Damn phone!
  15. surreal1272
    Happy late Canada say to you Suave.
  16. surreal1272
    Remember, this claim is coming from the same guy who sees nothing wrong with vans being sold and serviced on the same lot as an S Class.
  17. surreal1272
    Anyway, this is getting away from the topic which is the Envision. Carry on folks.
  18. surreal1272
    And it's simply awesome that a luxury car maker can pay some Alabama employees over $40 less an hour to put together the same damn cars as their German counterparts. BMW is just as guilty of it.
  19. surreal1272
    And I quote, " Ford has made good profits lately, what did they do? They spent $1.6 Billion to build a factory in Mexico and create 2,800 jobs in Mexico. So those F150 profits are going straight to Mexico. They could have invested those dollars in a new factory in Michigan or Indiana, but they didn't." You certainly implied as much and even if you didn't you are still way off base because you literally are ignoring the billions they have and continue to invest in the US. Again, profits always go to the home team. Where they distribute it out from there is of no consequence since that is what ALL manufacturers do. I won't oblige the rest of your post because it also means nothing and you have completely sidestepped your favorite company's role in destroying an American brand while railing against the new owners who have at least invested in the damn product, as misguided as it has been. Daimler did exactly jack $h! for Chrysler other than let it wither and damn near die.
  20. surreal1272
    Once again, you need to get your facts straight. Most of the Lincoln dealerships are stand alone. That wasn't always the case but they are now.Oh and nice troll remark in the middle there. Classy </sarcasm> Actually Surreal, I have to disagree with you on the stand alone dealerships. On the west coast, I ONLY FIND FORD / Lincoln Dealerships with BOTH auto's on the same showroom floor. I have yet to see let alone be in a stand alone Lincoln Dealership.Just a few miles from my house is the Harris Ford Lincoln Dealership. They just finished a major remodel and expanded their one big showroom floor to show off both Lincoln and Ford side by side. HarrisFordLincolnDealership.jpg Negative vote aside, I have seen nothing but dedicated dealers in the Phoenix Valley and most of the ones I saw back east were the same way (lived in NC for 35 years). Point being that SMKs claim of 10% is pure trolling bull&#036;h&#33;.Also of note, I did say that there were still some like the ones you mentioned so why that merited a down vote, I haven't the foggiest.
  21. surreal1272
    *wreck Chrysler...
  22. surreal1272
    The real irony in SMK going after FCA for what they've been doing to Chrysler/Jeep is that what FCA is doing to wreck is nothing compared to what Daimler did to them a decade ago. Where was their investment in America then?
  23. surreal1272
    Note the others are not putting out Beta units and letting the people do the development work. Tesla is no more important than any other new energy break through. The problem is people are putting all their chips on Tesla and if they go south in failure they could damage the entire EV moment. As of now they have helped but they are far from being out of the woods yet. The simple matter of making money is something that at some point the investors will demand. Oh and what I mean is a profit on products not carbon credits or income from government funding. I am not a Musk fan but I do not want to see Tesla fail as it will hurt all the EV makers in image with the public. This autonomous feature is just not ready for prime time. I think it is a mistake for makers to remove so much of the driver they become even more distracted while they still need to remain engaged as to what is going on if they are holding the wheel or not. God knows my braking system in my car gets enough false signals as it is. I had to shut it off as it was a total pain in the Ass. It really hates cars on side road joining the main road on a curve. It see's the car and then reacts to it though it is not even in my path of travel. I guess it is better it to work than not work like the Tesla but tell that to the guy behind me that got brakes checked. Really? So you think when the others get that tech out there (and it's coming real soon btw), that their tech will have NO issues and NO problems the will lead to that very same problem? Do you not think that it will not also be considered "beta"? If so, then I have a bridge to sell you.
  24. surreal1272
    More like idiot driver not following simply instructions that are clearly laid out on the screen in a Tesla. For example, keep your hands on the wheel and stop watching movies while in the drivers seat (which what he was doing btw). While the death sucks, it is a reminder to read the damn manual and always pay attention to the road. No exceptions.
  25. surreal1272
    Also, what is ignored by SMK is the role unions played in killing the steel industry in Pittsburgh. Of course, that has to be s fault too.
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