surreal1272

Fair points but I still feel as though the 5 Series will be its more consistent competitor but this “tweener” size does put it in a bit of a comparison conundrum.

Ignore the price because the Germans will always be higher (hell, a 3 series starts at higher price than the base CT-5). Like the 2nd gen CTS, it tweener size is much closer to the 5-Series and E-Class than the 3-Series and C Class. And again, I am talking manufacturers claims which has the M5 Comp at 3.2 sec. C&D had the fastest tested time at 2.8 seconds so there is no reason to think that the Caddys can't beat their est. times. Again, all that bar moving while ignoring things like the CT-5 being over $20K cheaper than the M5 Comp. Per another article, despite the fact that the wheelbase measurements of the CT5 and the 5 Series are within 1.1 inches of each other (116 inches to 117.1). So, the CT5 is not-quite-a-5er, not-quite-a-3er, making the CT5-V Blackwing closest to, well, the more powerful uber-fast midsizers than less powerful, smaller stuff such as the BMW M3 sedan or Mercedes-AMG C63. It's called "ignore user". Try it or quit your bitchin'. No offense.

"Worthless" is a subjective term as I believe there is validity to the article and assessments within. Yes, they could be wrong but they could also be right. Just because it doesn't agree with your assessment of BEVs doesn't mean its wrong. Yeah, its a good thing that coal mines are so safe and that oil pipelines never leak and take up too much land for the exact same reasons you mention above. But but, when Wall Street is doing well, then the U.S. is doing well (at least, that's what a certain previous administration said for the last four years).

Insurance bumps are most likely due to cost of parts replacements (body, powertrain, and frame).

Oh look, so what? Are you sure about that? Fact of the matter is that the tech behind EVs have dropped in price but that doesn't mean that the end product will necessarily be that way (with exceptions of course). Many ICEs have been around for decades (with little in the way of meaningful advancements) and most have dropped in price yet the cars and trucks that house them have not.

Cite your M5 time because C&D has it at 3.2 seconds for a car that STARTS at $110K. The BMW M3 has a manufacturers time of 3.8 seconds so I’m having a hard time believing that the lesser 340i does better. Furthermore, that same M3 starts $11K higher than the CT4 Blackwing.

And oh, if they would just give this version one last farewell....

*Checks Notes* You posted the above first, which implies the existence of EVs... ...so the above statement here is BS. *Checks again* to see if you are moderator or Admin of this site and finds nothing. I believe William summed up the situation perfectly. Used to be able to get an HD pickup for less than $30K, much less the $60-$90K they are now. The CT5-Blackwing competes with the E63 AMG and will kill it, mostly due to it being 500lbs. Lighter. And why in the hell does a short run ICE Cadillac need to priced the same as a cheaper built Tesla? Do you have stock in them right now?

Some folks won’t be ready for this at any time, much less by 2050. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/gasoline-is-becoming-worthless-210636353.html

Lastly, by 2050 its not like you’ll be in any condition to give two s*** about it @ocnblu. And I’ll take it as a compliment if my Flex will last that long before I drive the wheels off of it. You bitch about EV prices but you have pissed away more money on no nothing cars (outside of the Colorado with transmission issues). I could keep one EV for five years and still save money over what you would end up spending on three different ICE cars.

That’s because a classic, and the truth, never die. You are in serious need of psychological help (Oops, I guess the other lackey Horse said that too). And exactly how tight was that tinfoil wrapped around your head when you typed that? Zero facts. All paranoia. Again, seek help.

Never said that directly but you were implying that you would otherwise buy one unless that go the route mentioned above. Just confusing logic IMO but to each their own.

Because you were going to buy a Challenger otherwise? So making a profit is an issue now? Maybe GM should just go back to volume, volume, volume, over profits so that they can repeat their mistakes of the 90s and early 2000s And I thought a certain other user here was swift to move the bar to fit his narrative.

Or you could just act like a little baby about it, judging by your snarky reply. Must be nice to always be the victim.

He is blocked but, like you, I’ll look to see what asinine thing he has said and chime in accordingly. Tired of it being like everyone else is the problem and that we should just ignore him. How about he just act like an actual rational thinking adult? I’m guessing thats just asking too much though lol. Never, not once, said that you made it up. Not once. I was referring to Drew’s example and as such, that did not mean that yours wasn’t. The problem with your example though is that your think it’s indicative of a problem as a whole instead of the singular one off example it is. Learn to discern from the two before assuming intent.

Why bother giving rational REAL WORLD examples to someone who just willingly ignores them? Substitute any of those parts for the word “battery”, and it becomes an entirely different argument for him. No. Your “arguments” are always bottom bunk, where they belong.

And you did a marvelous job of deflecting and missing the point entirely (like the battery reference), at the same time. And, unlike you, I keep my cars for longer than a year or two. This is my third car since 2008 so whatever “argument” you are trying to make, in your attempt to deflect, is just bunk. Pure bunk. And the laughter exists here because of your rather sad attempt to portray yourself as some kind of victim on this site.

Not really (regarding the first paragraph). GM spent decades diluting the brand right up until their bailout and were doing a fine job of it yet again, the last few years with weak turbo offerings and inflated pricing for packages no one wanted to pay for. One failure after another yet you seem to think those were the “glory days”? That is living life with a certain set of blinders on, if you ask me. The “passion” died decades ago (with a few exceptions), long before the current EV plans. Love how you had to get instantly defensive with your “same crew” remark though. Fact is that GM could offer the model/brand variety you supposedly crave and miss and you would still dump on the fact that they are EVs. Honestly, just seems like you are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

What I find funny are the complaints about battery replacement and costs yet more and more ICE cars are using turbos that last about as long as your average battery and can cost thousands to replace. It was the main reason I decided against a used Eco-Boost Flex when I bought the one I have now. Loved the power but dreaded the potential costs of replacing a pair of turbos if they were to go out.

And you continue to prove my points (on your assumption that you're right, that you're not the actual "glass half empty" type, and your choice of tech). Congrats. It's a nice addition to being accused of being trans-phobic (with good reason). There's an old saying that applies here. If there are 49 people in the room with you, having a discussion, and 48 of them say that you're wrong, guess what? You're wrong. Yet you go through cars like they are underwear on a 15 year old boy.

You do realize that those are necessarily mutual right? It can be all of it. Your posts are, at times, irrational and are also (at times) obtuse (which itself can mean “open to interpretation”). Sometimes they are both. It’s really not that “cerebral” when you think about it.

That’s merely a reflection of the “Do as I say, not as I do” policy he seems to follow.

For the record, I had two posts deleted in the last two days yet I’m not on here claiming some kind of pseudo censorship. I know my posts went too far both times and I’m fine with that. Interesting that you’re the only one here complaining. Cars were turned into rolling appliances decades ago so your “cell phone” reference is actually how the new generation of future buyer will see it, thus leading to sales for that market (price willing of course) and that market is getting larger every year, whether you want to admit it or not. Your dinosaur mentality regarding EVs, or really anything different from your “norm” apparently, is outdated and becoming less and less relevant with every passing day. Don’t believe me? Take a look at the tech in your home and current ride and think about where they were both at thirty years ago. It’s been changing and will continue to change and so will cars.

Yeah, its a good thing Benz never has to cancel cars buy the dozens. Oh wait. They’re doing that now. See Balths above response about all the cancelled Benz models.

And you don’t even have to leave your house to pump $100 worth of gas in it either. (And just skipping the fact that you will never get to 625 miles of range on your truck unless it is always empty and you drive slow as dirt.) Oh wait. How many gallons do you need to achieve said range btw?