surreal1272

So now you’re just touting them and promoting them for family members but “buy American” for you? Is that what we are getting here? Guess we will just sidestep all the other contradictions, like you, yourself, buying Mexican made cars owned by the Italians and then ranting about gutless and lifeless EVs while promoting those little four pots mentioned above but god forbid someone put an American flag sticker on their Tundra (another past complaint of yours). That’s just a step too far for the all American beta male right? Let me say this one more time. The Cybertruck is design garbage, utility garbage, and will be relegated to also ran status the moment any of the D3 makes goes all in on an EV pick up.

I'll gladly take the wagon and the trailer behind it!

Anti-EV trolls

Because you’re so cerebral right? Not because you’re still on a thread about an EV, where you always offer such an objective comment in regards to them lol. So over the last few months, that wasn’t you touting Hyundais, Kias, and little three banger cars like the Escape while mocking the performance of much faster EVs? My mistake. Must have been some other pitiful hypocrite.

Not exactly a fan myself but it's far better, in loaded trim, than the XT6. I just used it as an example of how much I dislike the XT6.

I'd take a loaded Telluride over the XT6. Thats how far down the list the XT6 would be for me, to the point that it's not even a consideration.

Same. The XT6 is absolute garbage and while I'm not a huge fan of the Aviator on the outside, it shames the XT6 on the inside and on powertrain options.

Says the fan of Korean four bangers but hey, don’t let that little bit of hypocrisy get in the way here.

Which really hasn’t changed as far as their models go. Has always been nothing more than a stretched out S-Class that could never compete with Rolls Royce or Bentley.

It most certainly is dulling the brand when said brand is supposed to compete with the likes Rolls Royce. and the Bentley is irrelevant as it is not essentially a stretched out A6, unlike the Mercedes-Maybach S 560 4MATIC Sedan. The same logic you use to criticize vehicles like the Escalade (calling it a dressed up Tahoe) applies to Maybach when it uses a dressed up S-Class, end of discussion. Again, you simply refuse to apply the same standard to Benz that you apply top literally EVERYONE else! That, in and of itself, kills any criticism you have to make towards GM and what they decide to do with the Vette name. And the Hummer example does not apply here since it does not exist by itself anymore. It would be a more convincing argument if Hummer did still exist by itself and GMC decided to that.

Way to miss the point entirely. I guess, by your “logic”, thats it okay for Benz to do that because it’s done at a different dealership. Think about what you said for just a second. Sounds like they just trying to hide the fact that their $300K Maybach is just a stretched out $92K S-Class. And yes, you are bashing a domestic car, like you always do.

It should be noted that EV range loss isn’t due to the cold itself.

They'll fit in nicely with all the used Mercedes, that were dumped after their 50K warranty expired, sitting on the same lots. At that point, I'll gladly take the Genesis over the Benz.

They didn't call it that but they faced the same criticisms of brand dilution. That is what you are not understanding here in your quest to, yet again, bash a domestic car.

Will the Maybach name die because it decided to go with a lesser priced S-Class as its base? "respect" wasn't my point although I see what you're saying. And you're absolutely right about dad parking a Vette SUV right next to his mid-engine monster.

Exactly. Meanwhile, range fluctuations are not unique to EVs. Per Fueleconomy.gov: "Cold weather and winter driving conditions can reduce your fuel economysignificantly. Fuel economy tests show that, in city driving, a conventional gasoline car's gas mileage is roughly 15% lower at 20°F than it would be at 77°F. It can drop as much as 24% for short (3- to 4-mile) trips." And I'd like to add that extreme heat (like Phoenix summers) will affect it as well but we shouldn't let the obvious facts get in the way of Blu sounding like a complete fool. Again, a troll just being what he is, a troll (and an uninformed one at that).

Yes because burning your money on a different car or truck every other year (with a lot of foreign makes in that mix), like you do, makes perfect financial sense. Again, what are you doing on this thread other than trolling for the sake of trolling?

Like the Mustang, it most certainly can be both because times do eventually change. There can be the 2 door Vette that everyone loves and there can be a hi-po Vette SUV/CUV that will sell like hot cakes the moment it comes out. If Mercedes can stretch an S-Class and call it a Maybach, then GM can certainly take a Vette and make it an SUV. Life is not that damn rigid.

Like others have said, you are splitting hairs over the use of the word “brand”. Remember when everyone thought it was a bad idea for Porsche to make what was basically a lifted 911 and call it an SUV (or “Cayenne”, in this case)? How about when they stretched out the 911 and called it a “Panamera”? How’d that work for them? Did it dilute the Porsche branding in any way? The answer to the last one is “no” btw so save the Corvette criticism for folks who don’t see right through your obvious bias. Exactly. AMG is part of their branding and it has been diluted by slapping it on damn near everything, even it the model itself didn’t properly represent the history of the AMG brand, like slapping “AMG” label on a FWD A-Class (does not matter the particular model is AWD, it still originates from a FWD entry level appliance car).

You're not buying one anyway so what the hell do you care?

Thats awful big talk for someone who is a fan of a certain German company that'll slap AMG stickers on any car that'll have them.

Then consider yourself lucky. Two gas stations near me (when I lived in Greensboro, NC) routinely were jacked up. Half the pumps were out and it seems like it was different set of pumps every week. It should be noted that I've seen this in Arizona too and in most cases, they were not the newest pumps. Nonetheless, they most certainly do exist. Again, ask those drivers before assuming intent and reason. It's that simple.

You know I respect your opinion but you are seriously reaching here. Just because someone has a Tesla or EV doesn't mean they have home charger. You are also using a very small sample here ("there were seven Teslas...") to make your case but unless you actually ask those very owners A.) "Do you have a home charger for your EV" followed by B.) "Why are you charging here if you have a home charger", then you don't have a clue what or why. You're just grasping at straws for whatever reason. Sorry, but it just doesn't hold water IMO. Good thing gas stations always have perfectly functioning pumps that are never "out of order". Oh wait. Point being, sometimes $h! happens.

And still more reliable than any electronics in a German car.

The GM Authority source is almost two years old. That is the only correct statement you have made on this entire thread. Bravo! @David—He is right but really doesn’t change anything with him so its not worth arguing over when his only mission here is to troll and whine when things don’t go his way.