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MSNBC Report on Leaf owners getting stranded nough said?

I lived in Portland and the only time I used my car was when I wanted to go to the coast or to Seattle. Managed to do just fine doing my daily day to day without a car.

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I agree, but may point has to do more with the company having less responsability when they take on an undocumented working where one who is. If a company asks for a SSN yes they will be contribuiting to Social Security, and the undocumented worker won't see the benefit from it. Now, not all copanies will ask for SSN and these workers become ghost I see it in my line of work all the time. I think both of us are in agreement with the big picture but just have a few minor items we dissagree and don't see eye to eye.

I don't think you understand me... maybe I just didn't state my point properly. What I'm saying stop giving jobs to undocumented immigrants. As you say, jobs are not just given out of charity, they are given because the company gets value from it. By hiring undocumented immigrants the companies only have to pay the worker, the company won't pay, unemployment, social security, insurance or any other indirect. That is one incentive to hire someone undocumented over a documented one, or citizen. What I am saying is that by stopping companies from hiring undocumented immigrants we will reduce the number of people crossing illegally. That is step one. The next step would be, what to do with the ones already in the US? I think there should be a path to citizenship. Why would we spend Billions of dollars tracking and deporting them? I mean there are people arguing for government to spend less and less money, but fail to see that if we where to track and deport, it would cost billions if not trillions of dollars. Now if you were to give them a path to citizenship involving but not limited to criminal checks (other than being here illegally), and pay a "fine", we would be a lot better off; even if one half take advantage of it.

Sorry about getting off topic... In regards to "AZ Wrong on immigration". I think that not only is AZ wrong on immigration but the nation as a whole is wrong on immigration; AZ is just taking a worse path. I believe, as some one already mentioned it, the real focus should be on the companies hiring undocumented immigrants. People come to the US because they can get a job plain and simple. There is this big incentive for people making 5 dollars a day in their original country to risk their life to cross the boarder, because they know they can get work. So in my opinion we need to stop this incentive. We need to stop blaming undocumented immigrants and take a close look at our companies that hire them. If US companies don't hire these people, the rate at which they come will drop dramatically. Why would some one risk their life, spending days in the desert, with little or no food and water, if they can't get work once they get here? They simply won't.

I'm not "putting" you anywhere you don't put your self in. When you say hispanics and just leave it at that, is not thing different from some one saying that all white people are crak addits, marry their cousins, live in trailer parks, hate outsiders and love NASCAR. To take on one of your points: My wife worked for Medical, and let me tell you it wasn't only Hispanics people that lie to get public assistance. As a ratio you had the same amount of whites lying to get public assistance. People driving new cars, with housese valued closed to $500 milion. When I asked her how they got away with it, she said it was simple once they knew how to work the system. Towards the end she just couldn't take it... she couldn't take people working the system and having to denie people that really needed it. So I don't buy this argument that people lying and taking avantage of the system is an isolated Hispanic problem. I agree with the poster that stated you sound xenophobic. I don't know if you are, but they way you communicate sure does make you sound like one. You need to read this and tell me what you think. My link

So now Hispanics in general are a problem... maybe we should just put them in consentration... I mean internment camps.

Santa Cruz, CA to Portland, OR. 12 hrs, then a 12hr trip back. I have done it two other times but stoping along the way; food, walking breaks.

Quad-4 I believe was only on the Z-24. The others had the 2.2L SOHC. I had a 93' sold it with 196,000 miles with no problems, never understand why people hated Cavaliers. Best I got out of it was 34 mpg.

Can some on Photoshop it? Paint it black and put a golden bird on it.

A mostly single occupant two wheel human power vehicle delivering approximately 85-95% of the power to the wheels and producing less than one tenth of CO2 per mile compared to a traditional automobile will be in everyone’s future. This vehicle features low resistant rolling tires, single frame design, dual shock absorbers, up to 42 gears (eat that smk) and it is available in a multitude of colors. This vehicle has been recorded to reach up to a 125 MPH speed (although average speeds will be around 20-25 mph) all this without using a single drop of gasoline. In additions to its benefits on the environment, it is believed to have great health benefits on its occupant, some studies shows the occupants increased their energy through the day, higher metabolic rate, loss of weight, longer endurance (she/he will be happy), and it might make you live longer.

Considering where the economy is at now it is safe to assume the economy will get worse and taxes will go up even if McCain got elected. This is not the fault of Obama, nor would it have been of McCain, it is what needs to happen for our economy to recover.

I just don't see what everyone is complaining about. If the car still has a +/- 400 mile range, who cares if the engine recharges the battery, or just provides power to the motor(s). Can some one just enlighten on this?

20 actually...

You are not alone, I agree I love the lines and styling of the STS over the CTS. I even like the interior, simple and elegant.

Top I mean just look at it. :AH-HA_wink:

A friend of mine had a Metro as a first car and we beat the ... out if. That was in the late 90's, after about 10 years and a little over 200k it finaly died. Very sad, sad day for us.

Ford also sold a couple of its brands. Could that be it?

I remember talk about this about two years ago. There was some talk about going with clutch-less manuals like most in Europe. Now this was a couple of years back so my memory about it is some what distorted, but I do clearly remember talk about getting manuals out.

You forgot: ...it's 0.683987 in. longer, it weights 10.983465 lbs more, it is priced too low, and it doesn't have the looks so therefore it can't compete with the BMW... Cadillac is going down the toilet, CTS is too big to compete with 3 series and too small to compete with the 5 series, Cadillac needs something bigger than the CTS, STS not big enough to compete, STS can't compete with 5 series its .04543 larger... etc... etc... etc... I like to read all the good information on this web site. I have been coming almost every day to read good and reliable information for the last couple of years. I find my self coming less frequent because of nonsense and miss informed statements.

Vegetated land refers to natural state not farm land.

What he is getting at (correct me if I'm wrong) is that the Astra could have come with the 2.4L with about 170 HP and have an EPA rating of 22city and 31hwy. So why not go with more HP and about the same mileage.

I agree to some degree. What would you say to a Turbo / Super Charged version of the DI3.6?

This reminds me of a co-worker. She worked at NASA before joining our team. She mentioned that at the time J. F. Kennedy gave the speech about the US sending a man to the moon and bringing him back by the end of the decade, NASA thought it was impossible to do. However after his assassination everyone at NASA felt this urgency to make it happen. I don't have to tell you how that ended.