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New Buick to be called LaCrosse, has been butchered.

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Looks boring, Accord style headlights with 5-series ripoff tail lights. The interior is similar shape to a Malibu LTZ but only a mild upgrade from it, the Lincoln MKZ is nicer than the new LaCrosse. Plus the new MKZ comes out before this and will have some upgrades.

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Don't get me wrong, I like it. But what happened to the concept? It's so warmed over...

The grille? Keep the more-aggressive chrome grille... it looked nice! the faux wood, well, damn.

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Aside from no chrome on the grill and smaller wheels, I'm not seeing what's so different.

The interior still looks good...

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from that POV it looks very KIA, sadly. the hood still has the grooves and "ventiports" but does not look nearly as exciting as earlier thought.

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Unlike the concept images, this photo, as it is, to me doesn't look very exciting - like a refresh of a plain car, which will not help Buick at all. With that grille and those rims and wheel size, it doesn't say "luxury" or "premium" to me.

Compare the "spy" photo to the Concept Vehicle. Subtle, but very real differences (in my opinion, just like how they watered down / dumbed down the Pontiac G6.)

I thought that someone claimed it could only be called "LaCrosse" if it were built in Oshawa; the assembly plant for this vehicle has been given as Fairfax, Kansas, right?

What kind of game has GM been playing then, when Rick Wagoner referred to this as an (unnamed) Buick sedan? I never read a single post asking for the LaCrosse name to be retained. Can't GM listen to the public?

So, to sum up my feelings at the moment:

:cussing:

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WOW!!!

What an ugly, generic looking S.O.B.

But hey, what else would one expect from GME?

Man alive... Did they just bolt the ass of an Avalon/BMW on there or what? I mean, I know both the Germans and Japan Inc. had been aspiring to become Buick (even as the press ridicules Buick, yet doesn't bat an eye at the ugly, generic foreigners) but really?

That's sad... Especially since the concept was so awesome.

But alas, same GM, same mistakes.... Buick concepts have ALWAYS been show stoppers (Better than both Cadillac and Chevy) and their production cars have always benn plane-jain watered down to nothing.

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The more I think about it, the more that silver spy photo looks like some generic rental car...

not a premium, luxurious, stylish new Buick.

:censored:

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Looks boring, Accord style headlights with 5-series ripoff tail lights. The interior is similar shape to a Malibu LTZ but only a mild upgrade from it, the Lincoln MKZ is nicer than the new LaCrosse. Plus the new MKZ comes out before this and will have some upgrades.

Yep... Same "Accord style" headlights that can be also found on the new Cruze, the new Aura, the new Insignia and pretty much anything else from GME.

I remember when everyone (including me) bitched about how similar and BLAND the G6 and Cobalt were when they launched together. I guess history will repeat itself.

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Aside from no chrome on the grill and smaller wheels, I'm not seeing what's so different.

The interior still looks good...

FWIW, I'm sure the higher trim levels will still have all of the 'extras' (At least I hope, since that is all that will save this car from being another Century)

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The more I think about it, the more that silver spy photo looks like some generic rental car...

not a premium, luxurious, stylish new Buick.

:censored:

Get used to it my friend...

Saturn killed Oldsmobile, and now has apparently now successfully paralyzed Pontiac to its death. Didn't any of you Buick fans realize that Buick is next in the battle of brands? CPF has already said that he has no use for the division.

MARK MY WORDS: The Saturn Aura, despite having less sales, less name recognition and less prestige (even to the average customer) will debut NICER than the Buick whatever-it-is-to-be-called. This will be for 2 reasons; 1) GM thinks it can get a higher price for the Saturn since it "has no baggage" and 2) Saturn is dieing to claim it's spot right under Cadillac as GM's middle brand.

I hate to say it, but I envision a day in which GM consists of Chevrolet, Saturn and Saab if management keeps playing the cards like this. The ONLY reason Chevrolet will survive is 1) because of its size and 2) because the 'blue bloods' at GME don't want their brands peddling Daewoo junk. Cadillac will turn into what Lincoln is today, (From the looks of product plans) except it'll be held to a higher standard, and eventually be laughed out of existence.

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Looks like a GM FWD midsize sedan... what did you all expect? It looks like a productized version of the concept.

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This car looks generic, much like the current Buick sedans that have almost disappeared in the market place. I bet this car bases around $25k, more than the current LaCrosse, but less than the Lucerne. $25k is a Malibu LTZ, so I'd expect a slightly better interior and a DI or turbo 4 with the V6 optional, but cheaper wheels and cloth seats standard to keep production costs down. Plus if they sell it for $26-27k, they can sell it to the rental car agencies to rent as a "premium car" like they do with Chrysler 300s.

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The more things change...

The more...

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At least the old Century had a unique wheel design.

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This car looks generic, much like the current Buick sedans that have almost disappeared in the market place. I bet this car bases around $25k, more than the current LaCrosse, but less than the Lucerne. $25k is a Malibu LTZ, so I'd expect a slightly better interior and a DI or turbo 4 with the V6 optional, but cheaper wheels and cloth seats standard to keep production costs down. Plus if they sell it for $26-27k, they can sell it to the rental car agencies to rent as a "premium car" like they do with Chrysler 300s.

Well, rental cars are one of GM's strengths. They keep Avis, Enterprise, and Alamo rolling..

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This is what I expected, GM makes bland sedans that compete with each other. Two years ago I thought they should kill Buick and Saab off and divert those resources to Cadillac. Now Buick and Saab sales are down 50% and Cadillac is getting models cut due to lack of funds.

GM is being stupid with Saturn. They tried to take an econo-car brand up market, and did it with products that have similar materials and features as run of the mill Chevys. Saturn was like the Kia of the 90s, and all of a sudden they think it can get a premium price? At least Hyundai with the Genesis put a lot of development into the car and made a good product, and they still have the lower end cars that they always had.

Cadillac is on the path to become Lincoln, a new Impala could replace the Buick sedans, Pontiacs and GMCs are rebadges anyway. I could see a cash strapped GM one day being Chevy-Saturn-Cadillac, much like Ford-Mercury-Lincoln. And Saturn will still suck.

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Well since most people cut back on rentals, except Chrysler, there is a demand for rental cars, that Pontiac and Buick seem eager to fill.

What's sad is that Century in the picture was sold until 2004. A 1994 BMW or Lexus looks more modern than that.

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Looks like a hopelessly generic Kia/Hyundai product.

The main thing I didn't like on the concept was the side crease, which is horribly cheap looking. Even the hood vents weren't bad. The concept looked pretty damn good actually. What happened? This production vehicle carries absolutely none of the feeling that the concept did. Perhaps it is just the angle and picture, but I think not.

Did I mention the side crease looks bad? The one thing they could have changed from the concept and they didn't. :toiletpaper:

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I thought that someone claimed it could only be called "LaCrosse" if it were built in Oshawa; the assembly plant for this vehicle has been given as Fairfax, Kansas, right?

Oshawa owns the rights to Regal and Impala... not LaCrosse.

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In a word, dumpy.

This design takes Buick in the wrong direction.

GM wows us with some great recent cars and then goes mentally insane.

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Looks like a hopelessly generic Kia/Hyundai product.

The main thing I didn't like on the concept was the side crease, which is horribly cheap looking.

Did I mention the side crease looks bad? The one thing they could have changed from the concept and they didn't. :toiletpaper:

The whole point of the side crease was to make it look Buickish (i.e. Buicks have had side creases like that in the past). Without the character line, it would like just another midsize generic.

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>>"They keep Avis, Enterprise, and Alamo rolling.."<<

Enterprise by me is 100% nissan & toyopet.

>>"What's sad is that Century in the picture was sold until 2004. A 1994 BMW or Lexus looks more modern than that. "<<

a 1994 bmw looks exactly like a 1968 bmw; in other words- decades older.

>>"The main thing I didn't like on the concept was the side crease, which is horribly cheap looking. "<<

How are you coping with the accord's horribly cheap looking side crease?? Or are you referring to that as a scrape or dent?

>>"Oshawa owns the rights to Regal and Impala"<<

I struggle to think of a more absurd scenario- a location owning a trademarked name instead of the legal coporation that created it.

The Buick in this awful spy shot looks awful in comparison to the awesome concept. Invisible. I do think a lot of it is the pic itself, but I'm not holding my breath on the real thing anymore.

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>>"They keep Avis, Enterprise, and Alamo rolling.."<<

Enterprise by me is 100% nissan & toyopet.

Toyopet hasn't been in the US since the '50s...they are renting old cars? :)

>>"What's sad is that Century in the picture was sold until 2004. A 1994 BMW or Lexus looks more modern than that. "<<

a 1994 bmw looks exactly like a 1968 bmw; in other words- decades older.

You are exaggerating. A '94 BMW has some styling cues in common with the '68, but totally different and modern.

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Having seen this and the other new products around the bend, it appears that GM is sliding back into old habits, design-wise. The fun's over, I guess...

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