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Yup, CNN is reporting it right now. California just closed. President-elect Obama.

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Olberman just called Obama the political Neil Armstrong, equating his victory to man landing on the moon.

The AP reports McCain just called Obama to concede.

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I wonder how Rush Limbaugh will spin this tomorrow.

Chris

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All I can say is it's a pitiful, sad day for America....

(and I welcome all the barbs I know will come from my comments....)

The end of America....as we know it.....

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If anyone doesn't find the thought of a democratic congress, senate, and white house a little bit scary.....then they are hiding behind a HUGE rock....

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The end of America as we know it isn't a bad thing per se. It is time for our nation to evolve.

Chris

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MSNBC just called Florida for Obama.

McCain is conceding, his fanbois are booing. McCain would be wise to say, "We dont need you to boo, we need you to go back in time and make me run a better campaign."

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It will be interesting to see what happens with actual policy over the next few months and years.

Chris

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The end of America....as we know it.....

God I hope so. The current incarnation is sad.

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God I hope so. The current incarnation is sad.

+1

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McCain seems less like a George Bush robot than usual tonight.

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Listening to McCain's concession speech right now. That happened quick, I just got home from class.

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Where are you seeing that electoral score?

Chris

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OMG! This is the first time in years that I have felt like things will go in a good direction! We finally got our country back!

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Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

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OMG! This is the first time in years that I have felt like things will go in a good direction! We finally got our country back!

+1

Chris

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It will be interesting to see what happens with actual policy over the next few months and years.

Chris

Fu**ing scary.....that's what you'll see...... You think times are bad today? Tonight just made it worse.

(Remember this is coming from someone that VOTED for Gore.....and Kerry.....)

And if I see ONE MORE report covering the fact that it's significant that an african american got elected....I'm gonna destroy something. Are we voting RACE....or who will lead the country best?

I can't WAIT to see all the grandstanding to come from the "minorities."

(And I'm someone that would have GLADLY voted for Condelezza Rice....had she run....)

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Thousands of empty-headed idiots

Oh you mean the people boo'ing John McCain anytime he mentioned Obama in his concession speech.

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Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

Isn't that enough of that already?

You honestly think the world is coming to an end because YESbama got elected?

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Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

I don't care for politics, but you might as well have summed up the 2004 election!

While I'm at it... I think both parties screwed up. The Democrats had it in the bag by just choosing a solid candidate. They didn't need to go so extreme as to push two candidates that would be 'firsts' if elected. The Republicans then followed suit by picking Palin (I think they would have had a much better chance my again, choosing a solid VP candidate).

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Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

Democrats in control of the congress......democrats in control of the senate.....democrats in control of the white house.

Yeah, that sounds like a good plan for the future of our country......

WTF????

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title: like they havne't for several months?!!!

we're boned...2010 can't come soon enough, unless the states get some backbone

not that the other "option" was much better....

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Isn't that enough of that already?

You honestly think the world is coming to an end because YESbama got elected?

Damn near......you just wait.

I'd LOVE to revisit this conversation four years from now.....'cause you know we'll all be on here at that time....

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Damn near......you just wait.

I'd LOVE to revisit this conversation four years from now.....'cause you know we'll all be on here at that time....

I'm just glad I'll have a country to come back to.

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The way I look at it, what we saw tonight is a vote for the future, for modernity; rather than for an outdated worldview of the past, which the failed neocon mindset represents.

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Palin wasn't the final nail in McCain's presidential coffin, his campaign had been in ADHD mode for some time before she was selected. Biden was the safest choice possible for Obama, the best pick to reassure the country.

First time voters made up 11% of the electorate, thats pretty special right there.

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I'm just glad I'll have a country to come back to.

The question is......what state will that country be in when you return? Your "Precious One" will not leave you much to return to.....

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The way I look at it, what we saw tonight is a vote for the future, for modernity; rather than for an outdated worldview of the past, which the failed neocon mindset represents.

.....more like a vote for the past ("cough, cough....Jimmy Carter") and a vote for socialism......

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A line the republicans will be familiar with from 2000 & 2004.

"Get over it."

:D

I feel so sorry for you and so many others......

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The way I look at it, what we saw tonight is a vote for the future, for modernity; rather than for an outdated worldview of the past, which the failed neocon mindset represents.

I think the biggest failure is Reaganomics...followed by our militaristic approach to diplomacy.

Chris

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I feel so sorry for you and so many others......

Believe me, I feel more sorry for you. :D

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Awww...the minority pities the majority. :cheers::P

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.....more like a vote for the past ("cough, cough....Jimmy Carter") and a vote for socialism......

Carter was actually a much better president than Reagan, or Bush Jr, and at least as good as Bush Sr.

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The long, national nightmare in America will soon be over. Obama is too pragmatic to lead the country to a sharp left, though Congress will try to steer there.

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Believe me, I feel more sorry for you. :D

A blindsided view.....to think you won't be affected just as much is quite ignorant.....

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Awww...the minority pities the majority. :cheers::P

I don't pity anybody.

As Martin Luther King said, tears will get you sympathy, sweat will get you progress.

If nothing else this election got people to vote and get involved.

Chris

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The long, national nightmare in America will soon be over. Obama is too pragmatic to lead the country to a sharp left, though Congress will try to steer there.

I think Obama is going to be the next JFK...and the anti-Reagan, in that he will start to undo some of the damage Reagan started 30 years ago...

Chris

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The question is......what state will that country be in when you return? Your "Precious One" will not leave you much to return to.....

As opposed to getting it blown up after inciting wars with anyone who blinks at him?

Obama has Volker and Buffet backing him on economic policy. Volker, not Reagan, was the one who ended the Carter era stagflation.

As for your socialism comments.... if you're so against socialism. STOP f@#kING DRIVING ON THE ROADS I'M PAYING FOR!

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I think Obama is going to be the next JFK...

Chris

........so don't expect him around for too long?????

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Think Bush is pissed about the massive number of people partying outside the White House? CNN shows it from time to time and it looks like an insane, Obama-happy crowd.

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I think Obama is going to be the next JFK...and the anti-Reagan, in that he will start to undo some of the damage Reagan started 30 years ago...

Chris

Could be... maybe it will be end of the failed neocon movement. Consign them to the past where they belong.

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........so don't expect him around for too long?????

...it would be sad if he did indeed get shot like all of the rednecks is claiming will happen.

Chris

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Now to repeal the Patriot Act and restore Civil Liberties !!!

Agreed 100%

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Now to repeal the Patriot Act and restore Civil Liberties !!!

Psssssht......civil liberties are overrated. I feel comfortable knowing that the government can find out that I'm borrowing Berenstain Bears books from the library.

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Nice to see what appears to be a big turn out of young voters. I like how Roland Martin on CNN was talking about how he bridges between the boomers and gen X (my generation).

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+1

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Am I the only one saddened by Obama not coming out to deliver his victory speech in a turban?

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A blindsided view.....to think you won't be affected just as much is quite ignorant.....

Sweetheart, my view looks just fine right now.

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My view looks much better than under that arch idiot Bush.

Chris

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Eight years ago on election night, Florida was called for Gore, and all seemed good in the world. The next morning came the truly stomach-churning news that Florida then belonged to Bush. It was no surprise that four years of incompetence followed, and the country was driven into the ground. Four years ago, a hapless Kerry ran an inept campaign, and Bush was given the opportunity to continue to drive the country into the ground. Why anybody would want to continue that trajectory of the country is totally beyond me.

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Think Bush is pissed about the massive number of people partying outside the White House? CNN shows it from time to time and it looks like an insane, Obama-happy crowd.

Oh the Madness of King George. Or the melancholy.

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Eight years ago on election night, Florida was called for Gore, and all seemed good in the world. The next morning came the truly stomach-churning news that Florida then belonged to Bush. It was no surprise that four years of incompetence followed, and the country was driven into the ground. Four years ago, a hapless Kerry ran an inept campaign, and Bush was given the opportunity to continue to drive the country into the ground. Why anybody would want to continue that trajectory of the country is totally beyond me.

+1

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Never has a Delawarean been a Vice President. Delaware's own Joe Biden.

Not just yes but Hell Yes!

Chris

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Eight years ago on election night, Florida was called for Gore, and all seemed good in the world. The next morning came the truly stomach-churning news that Florida then belonged to Bush. It was no surprise that four years of incompetence followed, and the country was driven into the ground. Four years ago, a hapless Kerry ran an inept campaign, and Bush was given the opportunity to continue to drive the country into the ground. Why anybody would want to continue that trajectory of the country is totally beyond me.

Masochism

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so now that all this hullabaloo is over, does that mean C&G's is going back to automotive mode?

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so now that all this hullabaloo is over, does that mean C&G's is going back to automotive mode?

Is there anything worthwhile in the automotive world?

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Democrats in control of the congress......democrats in control of the senate.....democrats in control of the white house.

Yeah, that sounds like a good plan for the future of our country......

WTF????

it's a bit like asking to get punched. nothing against Obama, but more that the dems are in charge of the house and senate.

one thing i am glad about. now i won't have to sit and listen to everyone bitch anymore, because their messiah has come.

the scary thing is that some people have looked forward to this as more important to them, moreso than things like friends, family or their religion. People are expecting a lot, when really they need to look at their own lives and wonder why they are asking a politician to fulfill all the things they are missing in their lives. It's not like everyone is helpless to make positive changes in your own lives. Maybe they should try to figure out why their own fulfillment and happiness is something they can't handle on their own.

You should be gaining most of your worth in your life from your family and friends and religion. Not from your government.

again, nothing against Obama, I just hope he decides to serve the masses and not all the special interests that raised all his cash, or the radical left.

I suppose they are already trying to figure out how to spike a couple of supreme court judges meals in order to speed up that 'replacement' process.

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I should have been in bed over an hour ago... but y'all know how it is.

I'm a happy man tonight, and not because the President finally looks more like me.

Since this country has been in decline for the past 8 years, a new direction is just what we needed. It may swing another direction in a few years, but that's the nature of politics and how the machine operates.

But for now... we can at least begin to pull ourselves out.

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I think the biggest failure is Reaganomics...followed by our militaristic approach to diplomacy.

Chris

that WAS needed at that time, considering the real threat Russia represented and is trying to get back to again.

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I should have been in bed over an hour ago... but y'all know how it is.

I'm a happy man tonight, and not because the President finally looks more like me.

Since this country has been in decline for the past 8 years, a new direction is just what we needed. It may swing another direction in a few years, but that's the nature of politics and how the machine operates.

But for now... we can at least begin to pull ourselves out.

I don't think he looks purple, that is you in the avatar isn't it? :neenerneener:

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Think Bush is pissed about the massive number of people partying outside the White House? CNN shows it from time to time and it looks like an insane, Obama-happy crowd.

Bush really botched his terms, badly. Or was he really just a Cheney puppet?

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Is there anything worthwhile in the automotive world?

prolly wont be in the next few years, just burned out on pollyticks and ready for a change of scenery i guess.

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Eight years ago on election night, Florida was called for Gore, and all seemed good in the world. The next morning came the truly stomach-churning news that Florida then belonged to Bush. It was no surprise that four years of incompetence followed, and the country was driven into the ground. Four years ago, a hapless Kerry ran an inept campaign, and Bush was given the opportunity to continue to drive the country into the ground. Why anybody would want to continue that trajectory of the country is totally beyond me.

Gore as president would have been an unmitigated disaster. As bad as Bush was, there is no end to the damage that would have occured with internet Al in office.

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I don't think he looks purple, that is you in the avatar isn't it? :neenerneener:

First off, that's Chicago maroon. :P

Second, my picture's in the thread dedicated to them.

Third, I knew you were messin around... why am I responding seriously? :lol:

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oddly enough, the popular vote is a lot closer than i thought it would be.....currently 51/48. that to me does not suggest MANDATE as some would have you think.

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Democrats in control of the congress......democrats in control of the senate.....democrats in control of the white house.

Yeah, that sounds like a good plan for the future of our country......

WTF????

The O.C. composes a new song:

"I left my heart...in Orange County."

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Democrats probably will not get 60 Senate seats. They would therefore not be immune to filibusters and have free rein.

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Amazing that someone with no experience, no accomplishments, a racist mindset and a laundry list of subversives & radicals could actually swing this.

Thousands of empty-headed idiots out there waving their arms to the rock star, the Messiah, to save them, to give them something they haven't earned and break the back of this country. You libs wanted "change", get ready to pay for it, and in more ways that one. Me, I'm switching to Financial Self-Preservation Mode starting tomorrow, and I recommend you all do the same.

As I may have posted before, I was happy with neither party's candidate. Unbelievable that this is the best our country could offer.

I thought the speech had too much focus on the "look where we've come" factor. Instead, he could have neutralized it by talking about opportunity for and contributions by ALL. Since this is a touchy issue, it should have been downplayed. His plate ought to be full with the economy, international conditons and environmental concerns. Race issues take a back seat, BIG TIME, to all of the above.

The outcome was a non-event in my mind. It was to be expected. I was actually expecting a 54% or 53% popular vote, but it was closer than that. That surprised me.

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Interesting posts.... I assume ya'll voted.

Yes, I voted.

But, I waited. Shouldn't we have "express lines" for those of us who vote in EVERY election, regardless of the candidates, the issues, the "importance"? That was the sentiment of a few of us as we waited in the lines this evening. Heck, I waited 3 times as long as I normally do to vote. That's great, of course, but why should those of us who vote in EVERY election wait for those who do not?

Yes, I agree with the media's "historic" characterization of this election.

But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

...Wouldn't it be nice if the politicians' power to raise campaign funds would translate into efforts to raise money for non-profit organizations and those in need?

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piggybacking on what bob said, i find it humorous, some states have measures on the ballot to get rid of affirmative action. actually, i'd welcome that in my industry for public building projects. we don't need 'faux corporations, minority run' just to give them an advantage, it limits the selection of the best available to do the work.

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Interesting posts.... I assume ya'll voted.

Yes, I voted.

But, I waited. Shouldn't we have "express lines" for those of us who vote in EVERY election, regardless of the candidates, the issues, the "importance"? That was the sentiment of a few of us as we waited in the lines this evening. Heck, I waited 3 times as long as I normally do to vote. That's great, of course, but why should those of us who vote in EVERY election wait for those who do not?

Yes, I agree with the media's "historic" characterization of this election.

But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

...Wouldn't it be nice if the politicians' power to raise campaign funds would translate into efforts to raise money for non-profit organizations and those in need?

Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ... & I approve this post

WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

"I'm sick & tired of being politically correct" ... John Mellencamp ... 'Peaceful World'

big X2 on your AND points.

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piggybacking on what bob said, i find it humorous, some states have measures on the ballot to get rid of affirmative action. actually, i'd welcome that in my industry for public building projects. we don't need 'faux corporations, minority run' just to give them an advantage, it limits the selection of the best available to do the work.

Yes, it's contrary to our collective deeply ingrained work ethic and concept of "meritocracy."

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Interesting posts.... I assume ya'll voted.

Yes, I voted.

But, I waited. Shouldn't we have "express lines" for those of us who vote in EVERY election, regardless of the candidates, the issues, the "importance"? That was the sentiment of a few of us as we waited in the lines this evening. Heck, I waited 3 times as long as I normally do to vote. That's great, of course, but why should those of us who vote in EVERY election wait for those who do not?

Yes, I agree with the media's "historic" characterization of this election.

But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

...Wouldn't it be nice if the politicians' power to raise campaign funds would translate into efforts to raise money for non-profit organizations and those in need?

Cort | 35swm | "Mr Monte Carlo"."Mr Road Trip" | pig valve.pacemaker ... & I approve this post

WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort

"I'm sick & tired of being politically correct" ... John Mellencamp ... 'Peaceful World'

its funny, but 2 years ago when the dow was at 14k and people's housing values were at 10% add each year, and all that, i wonder if all the people that are so venomous today against the last couple years would be as venomous if the economy was still pumping on 8 cylinders like it was. how quickly we seem to forget. did the democratic congress cause the crash?

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oddly enough, the popular vote is a lot closer than i thought it would be.....currently 51/48. that to me does not suggest MANDATE as some would have you think.

I dunno...President Numbnuts said he had a mandate in 2004 with a 3 mil vote win.

Barack currently has a 4 mil vote lead.

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Yes, it's contrary to our collective deeply ingrained work ethic and concept of "meritocracy."

as an architect, you can imagine what it would be like to have to do CA on school jobs in which the 'minority contractor' (with no construction experience) would be.

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I dunno...President Numbnuts said he had a mandate in 2004 with a 3 mil vote win.

Barack currently has a 4 mil vote lead.

so the same standard applies. neither win was a mandate. i sure don't consider this one a mandate.

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I Voted for Burr just because neither deserved a vote.

All I can hope for is that Barry can hopefully start to bring our troops back in a safe manner. The house crunch to stop. Credit Crunch comes to an end and that that or economy turns around so we can all afford to buy Camaros and G8 ST's so what we as a community come together and discuss can be thriving.

However everyone seemed to ignore that issue like it was aids. So when Tax dollars are wasted on govt. programs instead of paying our debt don't complain. When the end of his term comes and his approval rating drops don't try to disown him.(Its statistically guaranteed that his approval rating will be lower than what his initial rating will be)

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But, aren't ALL elections historic? Listening to the reports over the last few days, you'd think that this was the ONLY election that has EVER mattered ... that this is the only election that should appear in history books.

Not necessarily..there was nothing historic about 2004, for example. Several elements of this election were history--first mixed-race candidate, 2nd woman VP candidate (the media seemed to forget about Gerry Ferraro), oldest first-term candidate, first candidate of Obama's generation (late boomer).

AND

...I'm still waiting for ANY political candidate to address the SINGLE population of the United States; all they talk about is helping "families" ... NOTHING whatsoever relevant to me.

Well, that's the way it is, I'm afraid. I'm single, there aren't any single-specific issues politicians brought up that I can think of that would be relevant to me.. I'd like to deduct my dogs as dependents, but that's not going to happen. After all, why should those who choose to drop brats be able to deduct them? My terriers are as relevant to my life as their little ankle biters are to them.

...Since politicians are so big on "Minimum Wage" (the lowest hourly amount companies must pay employees), let's hear discussion about a MINIMUM VACATION (the days of vacation companies must at least allot to employees), too!

Minimum vacation would be nice..I'd like to see European-style 6 weeks. Every salaried job I've had this decade has started at 3 weeks (one went to 4 weeks after I had been there 4 years). One of things about being a contractor is no paid vacation, so I try and take off a month or so a year between contracts...

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as an architect, you can imagine what it would be like to have to do CA on school jobs in which the 'minority contractor' (with no construction experience) would be.

Like wanting to reach for a razor blade and rolling up your sleeves?

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Yes, it's contrary to our collective deeply ingrained work ethic and concept of "meritocracy."

If you'd like to experience some truly screwed up sh*t where merit plays no part in the matter, try joining any branch of our armed forces. Then report back. It might curl your toes.

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I dunno...President Numbnuts said he had a mandate in 2004 with a 3 mil vote win.

Barack currently has a 4 mil vote lead.

5 mil now.

Indiana was just called for Obama. 349/159.

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If anyone doesn't find the thought of a democratic congress, senate, and white house a little bit scary.....then they are hiding behind a HUGE rock....

Bothers the hell out of me... but it also bothers me (almost equally as much) that there would be a partisan majority in the Supreme Court (NO LEGISLATION FROM THE BENCH PLZ) under a McCain administration (he only needed to appoint one Supreme Court justice to make it so).

God I'm glad I don't have to deal with this in any meaningful manner.

Regardless congrats to Obama, he truly earned this and I eagerly wait to see what he'll actually accomplish... until I see action it's all talk.

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Congrats to Obama. Maybe something can now be done about the funk this country is in. The Bush administration doesnt seem to care and I didnt get the feeling McCain would have either. The people have spoken. They are sick of what the Republicans have done to this country.

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Well, that's the way it is, I'm afraid. I'm single, there aren't any single-specific issues politicians brought up that I can think of that would be relevant to me.. I'd like to deduct my dogs as dependents, but that's not going to happen. After all, why should those who choose to drop brats be able to deduct them? My terriers are as relevant to my life as their little ankle biters are to them.

Pets don't grow up to contribute to society, pay taxes, etc.

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Well, we fought the good fight. McCain did a damn fine job giving that every single card was stacked against the Republicans this time around.

I hope Obama has the foresight to not implement all the silly economic ideas that he has as they will make our recession worse... if he must implement them he should slowly stagger their implementation and wait out our current recession.

That being said, i still hold out some hope that perhaps he truly will act in a bi-partisan fashion... but its getting harder to delude myself of this notion. I also hope that he respects the Constitution and does not disregard the document that our country was built on and does not eliminate the rule of law so central to our countries greatness. No man is greater than another under the eyes of the law... as of today... hopefully it stays like that.

Oh well,

Congrats to Obama and all his supporters.

Here's to a reformed libertarianesque Republican party for 2012!

Edited by Teh Ricer Civic!

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