balthazar

Air extractors- GM has a track record of functional versions, too ('49 Buick, Trans Am, GNX, etc). Could be an aero benefit for rear wheel well pressure reduction. If this were a Malibu, I'd agree it'd be fake. >>"No one said the '14 dash looked like the '05...it was said that it resembled the early '90s dash. "<< I misread you, that you said the '14 dash looked like the '05 when you said the '12 looked like the '05. Apologies. '84-90 dash was cool in its day, to a degree, but it aged fast IMO & is nothing to emulate today.

'Intentionally ugly'? I don't think so. IMO, BMW has already scraped the bottom of the style barrel, and long ago. A white 5-series GT stopped momentarily today in front of my house, as I gazed in horror. No, this is where BMW thinks it's future lies; the world of Tron. I mean; they've locked themselves into the horizontal light/ pig nostril grilles now, they CAN'T change that. Meanwhile, they've done every possible manifestation of tails (some quite good, most quite pedestrian). Unfortunately, the rest of their vehicles are so bland & arbitrary, they are forced to pull out something like THIS just to get attention. Obviously the ELR will get 'street' sideviews, but I sure hope Cadillac finds a reason to keep the mega-hoops for production. It's a real slick design regardless of the power scenario (presently unknown).

^ How does someone tell that grilled vents are fake from a line drawing? '14 line-drawing dash looks nothing like the '05. That said, none of the 4 interiors shown in this thread are properly indicative of the Corvette image, IMO. I'd like to see something a lot more 'focused' and purpose-driven, stylistically..., more expressive, like the C2 was.

Which would everyone rather be seen in ?

same as always- to get some work done on the fleet. Specifically, I want to strip the 3 Pontiac triplets out back, get the COE finished up, then get back on the B-59. What- too much to ask??

annnnd, no one who offered a lux SUV -for example- 'broke any new ground' either, yet they still tumble out, don't they (bentley next- 40+ years too late). Electrics are the newest segment, and although they have a nearly 'see-thru' slice of the pie, and many have already failed, I don't see the segment going anywhere. Build a striking example of one and maybe people will start buying them more. Build a mutated turd like the ct200h and you get nothing, good day sir.

sumtin about those wearing white (mirrors, rims, bumpers) that says 'pure' work.

Is there any appeal there over a Passat with the same powertrain?

What are the rumored power figures for the 3.6TT?

Seeing more & more of what I am sure is people looking at their phones when the light turns green, just sitting there growing moss. I suppose they may instead be working their " infotainment systems"...

5000 units annually sounds fine to me. Cadillac should never be about chasing volume, but building the best they can (at a divisional profit).

I haven't followed the current Lincoln products much, but the TV ads are pretty nice. Of course, they need to back the upscale image there in the showroom. Linc would've been well ahead of today had they put the MKR in production right off. That, and getting a palatable naming scheme going.

What happened to that giant mutant insect single-arm wiper system that was so amazing, that was going to revolutionize obstructionless viewing?? 'Obsession' isn't a unilateral virtue; just ask a psychiatrist.

mercedees uses plenty of cheap parts bin stuff, they just use the same badge on it.

Not always the case. A 1902 Cadillac was $750, which equates to $19K today.

Only a marketing dork could concieve of " a new direction to promote familiarity". Another missing link is that the Q45 was a colossal sales flop, not a good basis for a new image whatsoever.

Wonder why the imports moved from CCs to liters? Used to be pretty much all the former, now no one uses CCs. Agree with Camino/ Olds that there's a very good opportunity to utilize the very proprietory CI in some instances. Homogenization is boring.

"But... what does the 'Q' SSTTAANNDD for??" ~ same people perplexed by 'CTS'.

American automakers switched to aclimate once the imports began becoming a major market factor, in a vain attempt to 'go along with the flow'. Its a puzzler in that --as liters-- its a more innaccurate system (every tenth of a liter equals 6 cubes). Thats besides the point that there seems to be a lot more intentional flubbing of displacment to market 'cool' dispalcements with liters, than ever happened with CI.

Thanks for the side-by-sides, Roger. Rolling back & forth over then all, I am liking the GMC the best... tho I would certainly will welcome an in-person inspection. Has a strong rugged look, but ergonomics can only be judged by interaction.

So what does this mean, this "I just want them gone & don't want to mess with them'? What titles do you have? I have stuff from the '30s on up, both monthlies and club publications, plus over 6000 print ads. But I refer to my library frequently, a few times a week. RE the so-called 'digital age'- that primarily works for present/future issues, and sometimes those 'go away' online. Past stuff seldom gets scanned tho, so there it pretty much will never replace the vintage material.

Some folk are conditioned by marketing to expect/demand 'enticements' in a new vehicle, but the vast majority of truck buyers are not so easily distracted/swayed. Anyways, most of the discussion here is about subjectives, not hard features, and the opinions there will vary greatly.

^ Agreed on seeing more vids- there's no mistaking the degree of external difference in the '13 & '14 Silvie.

Unfortunately, every single vehicle intro'd has its dissenters, it's inevitable. I get a kick out of those who address subjectives as "mistakes", its good for a laugh.

Unable to sleep? Possibly a late-year addition? My Chilton's only lists the 151 & 301 Pontiac engines available in an Olds, in fact it lists NO 400 for '75-82 inclusive. I see the online O-75 brochure lists the 350 & 455 for the 88, and the 400 or 455 for the 98. Specs changed often in the mid-70s, that's for sure.