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I'm 19. Mute, your 17? You look older than that in your pics.

I never knew an IS350 competed with an M3.

About $8,000 more than the second most expensive in the class is not a steal.

While the LTZ pricing is high, I think the LS and LT pricing is spot on, the LS even a good value in the segment. I wish we'd be able to see pictures of the LS, though, without all the wood and leather.

The gauges crack me up, too, MyerShift. I guess they're standard on all Fords from now on?

According to the press release, 380HP and low 30's on the highway. Plus, it's a luxury car, something to brag about, some excess that is not needed but people want just to have it.

For dismissing 3 employees? LOL. The plant puts out only 70 cars a day, too. Toyota would be better off importing the cars.

The Camry Solara is the convertible model of the Camry, like the Sebring Convertible is the convertible model of the Sebring. The Corolla and Matrix sales should not be combined, however.

I like it, too, but the interior looks cheap. Exterior styling is hot, though.

If you are so hung up on drug use not physically harming anyone other than the user than lets do away with laws against stalking, harassment, breaking and entering, basic robbery (no on is home at the time), etc. No one is being hurt, there is no violence, crimes like that only clog up the court system. So, Chris, you admit that many parents fail to control and take responsibility for their children's actions but yet you want to place responsibility of children in their parents hands? What is your plan? Send out government monitors to grade parents on their parenting skills once a year? "Anecdotal lack of parental responsibility" is more like a huge lack of parental responsibility. Why do you think drug and alcohol problems among teens are rampant? Pregnancy rates? Newsflash: they do not have parents who care about them, their parents have zero responsibility. This is not some one-off thing among a select group of parents, it's the new (and big) thing. Honestly, do you think we would be having this debate if parents actually the balls to instill some values in their kids? Like I said before, cigs and alcohol are not available to kids but they still obtain them in huge quantities. TurboRush, you are right in a sense. Many people go to the liquor store and purchase booze and do not drink and drive. However, too many people do drink and drive, it's a serious problem and I am speaking from experience (not that I drink and drive). You will legalize some drugs and even though the majority of users, hypothetically, will not drive under the influence, there are still plenty of morons that will. Now you are dealing with double or even triple the number of people who should not be on the road, not counting people who should not be driving even if they are sober. I have seen what alcohol and drugs do to people, how they can destroy lives, marriages, families and relationships. It is much more widespread and dangerous than you let on to be. Getting high and tripping on acid is far from the rosy, fun-filled picture painted in this thread. Allowing people to do that crap because it makes jails less crowded or innocent people are not caught up in the moment or falsely believing it will shut down the drug lords and terrorist groups or even going as far to say "it's what they want to do so let them do it" is like knowing a friend or family member is going to commit suicide and allowing them to kill themselves. Drugs are for weak individuals who feel the need to gain power over others or acceptance. They are used by the weak to cover up character flaws and to keep people from seeing their true selves. The weak somehow believe drugs will make their problems go away so they do not have to deal with them head on. Sure, it may read like a DARE book but it is not far from the truth. We can agree to disagree.

I'm not a fan of the ocean.

The Benz 7-speed auto skips gears to adapt to the throttle input and driving style of the driver.

Of course it's not GM so the typical comments abound. But this is a place for GM fans!?!?!?! I think it looks hot, better than the coupe. I like how the roof cutout follows the body's natural lines instead of adding to the body to make up for crappy design. Kind of like the convertible PT Cruiser.

Definately, whoever screwed up the front end design should be fired. It destroys the flow of the vehicle and makes it look like it has hampster cheeks stuffed with bedding. The interior is just plain nasty (saw it on Autoblog). DCX's star is quickly falling.

It's alright, not great but not horrible. You can tell it's different from the Edge while looking at the front and rear but look at it from the side and you can tell it's a pretty good rebadge. This will pull younger buyers into Lincoln showrooms but Ford has got to try harder. The interior barely cuts it in design, though I'm sure the materials are there.

I still can't believe I'm seeing something like this. Everything is just about there. You best bet designers, engineers and managers from Lincoln, Acura, Lexus, Volvo, etc. are running around their buildings like crazy trying to figure out how GM made such a stunning, STUNNING car. I love the deep, rich brown color, too. Brown on the outside, two-tone tan on the inside is a beautiful and classy combination. I sincerely hope GM plans on bringing 80-90% of this to production. Anything less and it will simply be good enough, something GM does not need. GMCSD is still alive, though, but everything else is so great I almost miss it.

I love the Zephyr but this doesn't really do much for me. Aside from the somewhat classy looking front end (black plastic fog light surrounds? Even the Vue has faux-chrome looking ones), it's bland. The suede on top of the dashboard is tacky and there is so much metal in the cabin that it clashes with the light color, though it would look a lot better in black. After seeing more photos of it, with the interior in grey, it looks even more cheap. The plastic (is it?) on the vents and center stack look faded or off-color. If it's metal and not plastic there are too many different shades of metal trim in the cabin.

It doesn't compete with the Rav4. I guess it looks good. I don't mean that in a bad way, just usually redesigns are a lot more noticeable. All the Wrangler really needed was an updated interior and a little bit more civility/better dynamics.

The interior looks nice, though I'll be those plastics are hard as rocks, and the exterior is a big improvement over the current Sentra, which looks really dated and econocar-like. I'll give you guys the Saturn Ion look alike comments but only from the rear. The front looks nothing like the front of an Ion.

I guess Lexus got the front and Buick got the back?

Really? Acid isn't bad for you? Let's give it to the kiddies! You're very naive. The world isn't as utopian as you want to make believe. European countries have legalized certain drugs and actually help addicts get even more (with tax money!) but do some thorough investigation and you'll see it's not all peaches and cream. Obviously, organized crime and other groups have used drugs to raise funds for their many criminal activities. Your position, from what I get, is to legalize drugs to stop them from doing that. They'll get around it by forming front companies to sell the drugs, funneling the money back to their groups. So now instead of trying to dismantle just organized crime you'll have to dismantle the groups and their front companies. Point is, organized crime, terrorist groups, et al aren't going to sit back and allow you to legalize and regulate their profit source. Impaired driving is a serious issue but it's not being taken care of as well as it should and that's without legalizing drugs. Imagine if the majority of the population can walk right in to the food store and buy a bag of pot. They take it back to their cars, smoke it and drive off. No, they're not endangering anyone. Parental responsibility, ha. Does such a thing even exist anymore? Can you honestly answer that? One look at various statistics (divorce rate, teenage pregnancy, students failing in school, etc.) will give you your honest answer. You're right, there are age limits for legal drugs like alcohol. So why do I see/hear about so many underage kids smoking cigs or getting drunk? Even some parents don't care if their 15-year old kid is throwing down shots. They'll by him the booze themselves! Nowadays, relying on parents to actually control and instill some values in their children is like relying on the lottery for income. Someone mentioned that the pot head rate is so large that it overburdens the police, courts, etc. and so pot should be legalized. If the murder rate shoots up should murder be legalized? How about the rape rate? Hell, why should we waste any time or money enforcing laws, just get rid of them all. Every man for himself! There are reasons why certain things are illegal. If someone has to spell out why drugs should be illegal to you, there's a problem.

The only reason it has so many buttons is probably because there's no I-Drive, MMI, video game controller that everyone bitches about.

We haven't seen the real thing, yet. Does anyone know when we might have a chance to?

Well at least it had materials that look convincing. GM can't even accomplish that sometimes.

Organized crime will form companies to sell the crap, people will be robbing stores and each other to get it, driving on (insert drug here) will have to be policed and punished, crime rates will go up because people are on stuff and, not thinking normally, will decide to do whatever they want, kids would be taking it to school in even greater numbers, workplaces would have to police to make sure their employees aren't on stuff while working, health insurance rates would skyrocket even more due to the damage drugs cause, the list goes on and on. Legalizing the vast majority of drugs would open a huge can of worms that we'd never be able to close.