A Horse With No Name

The value is in having an established EV market and proven technology as a move to alternate proportion systems foes forward. Even though PC type computers are easy to use, something Apple established when they first came out....Apple still has a huge fanatical following. IF GM plays this right....IF....they will have a huge loyal following for electrics.

You are more than welcome to do so. I did get 76 MPG tooling around Columbus for an evening in said friends Prius. Fuelly has them at about a 55 MPG average, vs about 44-48 for the previous car. Still I am thinking of something performance oriented when I turn in the Jetta TDI. BRZ/FRS or the like.

Pretty much this....the Bolt is an order of magnitude better than the Leaf, which has horrible crash test ratings, a short range, battery issues, and looks like a vacuum cleaner on wheels. Domestics are very good at taking an idea put forth by imports and taking it forward for the win. Remember the Genesis 4 cyl Turbo coupe and how it was going to be the car of the century according to all of the automotive writers? In the mean time, Mustang has the ecoboost and Camaro has a Turbo 4. Meanwhile, the Genesis coupe is DOA. I actually kind of like it. as one of my friends put it....something like a bunch of 1960's Citroen designers woudl do given LSD and a room full of Pokemon....in a good sort of way. One can hope they sell. I think given proper marketing, that can happen. I also think being two or three years old with few issues will help their cause. The VW scandal has left a lot of "green car" buyers high and dry, this car is coming out at a good time....

Although the current Generation Prius is a gigantic leap forward in the styling and interior department. Also, drives much better than previous generations. Still...GM needs to work harder to market the Volt and the Bolt, methinks.

Wasn't Oshawa the plant that won all of the awards a few years ago? Surprising that GM would be thinking of shuttering it.

It seems like this is sort of like the Maxima...marketing itself as a sports sedan when it really isn't one. Nice, well written rational review.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/19/many-car-brands-emit-more-pollution-than-volkswagen-report-finds Europe seems to allow a certain amount of cheating, but this may well get ugly across the pond.

I always figured the lease was written a little bit in favor of the bank. But I could see how this would work.

Trailblazer SS is one of the better Ideas GM had over the last 15 years or so....I would be enjoying that until someone pried it out of my cold dead hands. Seriously. And I am not even an SUV guy!

1980 to about 1993 air cooled coupe in original unmolested condition. Just a nice driver I can enjoy....that would be it. My wants are few, my demands are few, but I would love an air cooled 911.

I am bullish on both the 3 and the Bolt. This is sort of like where the personal computer industry was with the Apple IIe. When it took off, it really took off. When people realize they can have near zero maintenance, not bother with refueling at a gas station, and cut their fuel bills by eighty percent, things will change quickly. And again, GM is well positioned for this. Even better than Toyota with its diversion into fuel cell technology, and Honda with its sub par hybrid technology AND diversion into fuel cell technology. Ford sells and Electric Focus, but they are not serious about the development of electrics like GM. .

Why would you lease that at 10K a year when you could buy it for twenty bucks more a month?

At the very least, I think if GM works with its dealer network and markets this correctly, they should obviously beat Tesla to market and do well with the product. The other takeaway that no one else is dealing with here is how much better GM hybrid and battery tech works out in the real world. The E golf has all sorts of issues as does the Leaf with its battery issues. The Volt by comparison has done very, very well from a durability and reliability standpoint. I would expect the same from the Bolt. Given proper marketing, yes-we are thinking on the same page. See my previous comment about the millennials on the college campus where I work-they want electric.

Biggest hurdle GM needs to overcome is not pricing but its backwards dealer network if it wants to sell these. Went into the local Chevy dealer to look at a new Volt, bought a truck there awhile back, good people. Salesman said they "didn't bother to learn anything about it because people who wanted them had already done their own research." He then suggested I would be happier with a Cruze or a Malibu. Friend of mine was dead set on buying a Volt, Chevrolet dealership was so backwards in selling the car he went out and bought a Prius instead. I love GM's new direction, but it needs to do some work with its dealers IMHO. That being said, the Bolt drive train in a small sedan would be a no brainier for me if they got the details right. I am very excited about this new development from GM.

One area where we disagree!

M2, Without a doubt.

Most of the eco friendly drivers are not really wanting to enter our Buckeye Miata Club Autocross events....again, we are off track with this discussion. Encore also is packaged much more nicely than the MINI products.

Gorgeous! I live in Columbus, Ohio. I love old houses, repairing and remodeling them is a lot of fun. We bought a newer house for school district reasons because we were raising five children, would love to renovate another old house some day.

Dealerships seem to be ruled by people with very nominal levels of common sense.

Agreed. We need to increase liberty in America, not decrease it. We have learned very little in almost 70 years. And in a lot of ways, not just automotive marketing.

Different strokes for different folks. i welcome a wealth of choices for various applications. If you live in a major city with lots of charging stations, electric would be wonderful. If you live in Montanna and drive a ton of miles, a diesel would be wonderful. We need to get out of a one size fits all thinking when it comes to vehicles.

Hell yes to the sirocco!

One could hope, but I do not think they have the tech to pull it off.

Too bad the diesel will probably not come to the USA.

Bingo!