Robert Hall

Interesting development... I'm not a fan of Bud or Busch, but do like Stella and Becks...

QUOTE(cletus8269 @ Jul 14 2008, 04:48 PM) [snapback]411719[/snapback]hehe i remember watching that on newgrounds.com i was disappointed they didnt decide to go with that title for the third instalment. BTW, #4 is going to be called simply 'Fast and Furious'...

Haha...I meant the Civic based CSX sold in the GWN.

I wonder if the CSX will get a shield style grille.

Grand Cherokee 4.0L-- 18.2mpg average.

38...less than 2 years until 40... mid life crisis time!

as seen on FT.com today.. GM prepares for 'realignment' By Bernard Simon in Toronto Monday Jul 14 2008 16:00 General Motors (NYSE:GM) will unveil further measures on Tuesday to cope with the dramatic downturn in the north American vehicle market. The world's biggest carmaker said that the steps, to be outlined at a press conference, are designed "to align the business to current market conditions". The conference will be attended by Rick Wagoner, chief executive, as well as Fritz Henderson, chief operating officer, and Ray Young, chief financial officer. Bookmark and Share GM announced last month that it would close four north American light-truck plants in the wake of an abrupt shift in demand from big pick-up trucks and sport-utility vehicles to more fuel-efficient cars and crossover vehicles. It is also reviewing the future of Hummer, its biggest vehicle, and accelerating the introduction of more popular vehicles. GM's US sales tumbled 18 per cent in June from a year earlier. By contrast, its business in many other countries is performing strongly. It said on Monday that sales volumes in Latin America, Africa and the Middle East jumped 18 per cent in the second quarter to a new record. International operations now make up about 60 per cent of GM's sales volumes. Mr Wagoner last week dismissed talk that the company might seek bankruptcy protection or ditch more of its eight US brands. However, it is widely expected within the next few months to take steps to shore up its liquidity, with analysts projecting that it will raise between $10bn-$15bn. It currently has about $24bn in cash reserves but analysts estimate that it is burning about $1bn a month. Himanshu Patel at JPMorgan said that GM had several options to bolster liquidity, including secured debt, delaying the transfer of its blue-collar healthcare plan to the United Auto Workers union, issuing new equity and further trimming capital outlays. GM shares are currently at their lowest level in more than half a century. They slipped another 5.4 per cent on Monday to $9.38.

Looks better than the nasty US market one.....the US one is an insult to the name of my part-time home state... (It's too bad Jeep didn't secure that name... Colorado would have been a nice trim level for the Grand Cherokee, with the UpCountry suspension package, etc..)

GM probably figured that a couple dozen sales a year wasn't worth the cost of getting it into those markets. Which is too bad, because it seems the UK esp. is the most fanatical market for super sedans like the AMGs, BMW Ms, Audi RSes, etc...

Actually, it does share it's first letter with the competing product from Big T (Corolla), as well as Honda (Civic).

The problem is McCain is a tired old man that should be retired and playing golf...he represents more the same neocon BS that we've had the last 7 years...

Considering the worst CIC in history is in the White House now, BO will be a huge improvement.

Yes, the current car is very distinctive...I esp. like the rear quarter view of the current car...has unique sculpturing. I thought seriously about buying one a couple of years ago, I love the interior and the way it drives.. The new car, at what I've seen so far, doesn't look as distinctive...

Ugly front end, predictable roofline...seems everyone is copying the BMW kinked C-pillar. At least the current TL has it's own C-pillar...

I like the headlight treatment..the light cluster shapes are very Acura-ish...

I think they confused the LX with the LHes, which came out about 15 years ago...

Sharp car...love the wheels.

Good post...the Industrial Age in the US has been winding down for sometime, as the Information Age has been on the ascendency... the Information Age/Internet era/world of technology is the only one I've worked in and known, so I've been part of it for over a decade and grown with it. Unfortunately, a major transition like this (not just the US, but world wide) has many downsides..

Hmmm..I'm flying USAirways from Phoenix to Ft. Lauderdale next week... I'm taking my iPod, Mac Book, and a couple paperbacks..

He seems moderate, though he's been cozying up to the nutjobs lately..(the intolerant evangelical lunatics).

It's a dying market for GM; being a big multinational, they are focusing their investments on growth markets.

I've wondered before if a NAU (North American Union, like the EU) would work...unify the money, laws, etc between Canada, the US and Mexico, make English, French, and Spanish the official languages and Futbol, Football, and Hockey the official sports... Would help reduce the illegal immigration problem in the US..

I'm optimistic that an Obama presidency would be better for the US than the same old same old neocon BS from McCain..

Interesting factoid: GM has already used the name before on the Holden Cruze (Aus) and Chevy Cruze (Japan), both rebadged Suzuki Ignis

All RWD would be fine for a niche brand like Pontiac... GM has enough FWD generics in Chevrolet and Saturn to keep Avis happy...