Robert Hall

Seriously? That's lame..

Yes, I was amazed that a Republican Mormon could get elected in Mass. Strange times we live in.

An interesting auto industry factoid about Mitt Romney--he's the son of George Romney, former chairman of AMC (and Michigan governor).

I like Obama and am supporting him for '08... I've read his book, and his views seem compatible with mine. If he doesn't get the nomination, I'll support Hillary. After the disaster of the last 7 years, there is no way I could support a Republican.

Won't the next LaCrosse be on Epsilon II? 3 FWD midsize sedans should enough (Malibu, Aura, and LaCrosse) to satisfy Camry/Altima/Accord/Fusion/Milan/etc shoppers and Avis...

Saw a couple interesting vintage Mopies this morning...a goregous restored '66 Plymouth Fury 4dr sedan, bright red with steelies and DDs, and a rough gold, primered with rusty roof '66/67 Charger. Very unusal to see 40+ yr old cars out and about around here. Another super-rare sighting was a black late ('99 or so, exposed headlights) Lamborghini Diablo roadster... Also, a battered white Cavalier 4dr with 'VTEC' and 'Type R' badges on the decklid...rare option, I guess..

I got back Wed. from my spring break in Hawaii..saw some interesting cars there...a goregous red '68 de Ville convertible oozing down the street outside my hotel. A pale yellow '67 Camaro SS in good condition. A black Bentley Flying Spur. A silver R32 Skyline GT-R. I rode in a couple of oddball taxis--a '95 or so Lexus LS400 and a battered early '90s Mazda MPV. I saw oodles of Hertz Mustang convertibles and Crown Vics and Grand Marquis with sunroofs (I never see them with sunroofs here).

Yes, so I hear...speaking of GM in China, one of my coworkers left today for a vacation in Shainghai and Hong Kong..I asked him to take pics for me of any Cadillacs and Buicks he sees there..

From what I've read in various articles, it sounds like compact FWD engineering will be primarily GM Daewoo, Opel for midsize (Epsilon II), Holden for RWD (Zeta), and NA for trucks, SUVs, large crossovers, and models like the Solstice/Sky, Corvette and NA Cadillacs... then China fits in the picture somewhere with Buicks and some Cadillacs.

Sounds more like his issues are with the management at Holden. The suits.

I'm currently only driving about 5 miles a week to work and another 20-50 miles a week around town, so it doesn't bother me.

The problem I see with a $45-50k or more Buick in NA is no matter how good it is (and this car seems like it would make an excellent NA Park Avenue, with a few styling changes like portholes and horizontal Buick taillights), is at that price point it would be squarely in Cadillac STS and DTS territory. Is the American consumer willing to pay Cadillac prices for a Buick?

I'm hoping they don't dumb it down for the US, though...no Rubbermaid interior plastics, 4spd auto, 3800 v6, etc...

What about the Sunfire? G5? Montana? Torrent? Those were arguably Chevy rebadges...the Solstice (and late GTO) were the first really unique Pontiac (though it now has a Saturn sibling) since the Fiero..the rest of their models have been largely variations on their platform mates from other GM brands with different plastic and different sheetmetal..

So? Pontiac needs to build cars that will appeal to buyers that were born in the '70s and later, not the old folks that were buying cars back then.. Whatever... most Pontiacs built the last 2 decades have been slightly modified Chevys/Oldses/Buicks..so I don't see the difference, esp. since Holdens aren't sold in the US.

I forgot Buick did bring the V6 to the LeSabre in the mid '70s. The Dodge and Plymouth would be the R-body St Regis and Grand Fury. Before the R-bodies, though, it must have been in the '60s..I couldn't imagine that the battleship C-bodies of '69-73 and '74-78 had 6-cyl versions.. the Ford and Merc years sound right...hard to believe, but that means that the full-size Mercury has now been V8 only for over 40 years.

I'm guessing Town Car, Lexus LS460 (the Q45 hasn't been sold in the US for a couple of years), and the Maybach 62.

Maybe it's that GM's NA designers have been constrained by bean counters for too long...i.e. make it cheap, average and bland so it will sell to Avis. GM NA has been hurt by 20+ years of cheap, plastic ugly interiors..

Interesting this discussion about Holden. I didn't realize Holden (and Opel) were considered 'subsidiaries' of GM...I thought they were just brands within the larger whole of GM, like Chevrolet, Cadillac, etc. GM's NA brands at one time were divisions with semi-autonomy and extensive design and engineering groups (and division-specific engines, etc) somewhat separate from the whole, but aren't they today really just marketing organizations within a single, larger entity?

My family's place in eastern Ohio is like that ...150 acres up in a heavily wooded valley, two 10 acre ponds, can't see the neighbors, 5 miles from the nearest town (250 people), 20 miles from the nearest Wal-Mart, 50 miles from the nearest Starbucks, about 2 hrs from the nearest big city (about equal distance to Cleveland, Columbus, Pittsburgh). I enjoyed living there as a kid, but it's way too isolated for my tastes...fun to go spend a few weekends a year there, though. Very quiet...the deer will come right up to the back deck, in the summer, you can sit out on the back deck or front porch and listen to the crickets, birds, etc.

What is the largest domestic car offered in NA today, by length? (not including limos) What is the largest Japanese car offered in NA today, by length? (not including limos) What is the largest European car offered in NA today, by length? (not including limos)

When did Chevy, Buick, Olds, and Pontiac each LAST offer a full-size (RWD B-body) model with a 6-cylinder, prior to the 1977 downsizing? When did Ford and Mercury each LAST offer a full-size (RWD) model with a 6-cylinder? When did Chrysler, Dodge and Plymouth each LAST offer a full-size (RWD) model with a 6-cylinder ?

I wonder how much this beastie weighs.. I'd like to see Chevy have a Silverado SS, with the 500hp Z06 engine. And even better, a Suburban SS.

They've been owned by GM for 76 years, though...not like Saab, which GM has owned for less than 20 years...

Interesting list... not sure about the Fiero and SL2 (what is that--a 2dr Saturn?). I'd put the last of the 4th gen F-bodies on there--like the Camaro SS).