Drew Dowdell

Hey now, it still outsold Sprinter. Commander is still selling 60k a year... they should keep that one.

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Is BMW trying to model their business plan after HP's printer business? "We'll sell you the printer for $100, but the cartridge refills are $50... and if you run out of yellow, you have to replace cyan and magenta too even if they're not empty" "We'll sell you the 3-series for 27k, but you have to bring the car to us for a $65 oil change."

Oh goody... another Toyota division.

I'm looking to be out of here by this time next year. Most likely between April and June 2008, definitely not prior to February. Koeln Germany looks like my most likely destination. I want to get rid of both the Avalanche and CTS to save myself the $900 a month in car payments. I think an old E-body with a 4x8 trailer will fill my needs as far as maintaining my rentals is concerned.

BTW.... If it ain't boeing, I ain't going.

A rendering of the new wing perhaps?

Fixed.

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I have stated no opinion on which make is better. Again, my issue is with what is in the media. It's the snide comments from reviewers in regards to the domestics while those same reviewers white wash any import problems. There have been reviews in 2006 that still mention the Vega as if it's relevant!! It's the reviews where the BMW has major mechanical failures yet still wins the number one spot. It's the media's harping on GM's smooth and reliable 4-speed while making no mention of the "silent recall" Toyota and Honda have on their 6-speeds and 5-speeds respectively. It's the harping on pushrod V6s that arguably give you more bang for your buck than the imported 4-cylinders while also forgetting to mention the substantial sludge problem Toyota has been dealing with. Now... I'm not saying that GM hasn't had it's issues, but GM issues, even minor ones, end up being front page headline news while Toyonda issues are published in the back page of the classifieds where they offer "massage with release".

Alles Gute zum Geburtstag!

Camry with a 4-banger and 5-speed is better? The Aura XE is meant for those who would buy a CamCord 4-cylinder auto, NOT the V6. As such, it performs it's job just fine.

Because there is nothing wrong with GM's 4-speed. There are some instances where a 6-speed is really needed but the Camry/Impala segment isn't one of them. In what list? Hummer being #34 makes me think this is a Consumer reports list. You know that one of the major "issues" with the Hummer is gas mileage right? Yes Virginia, people report gas mileage on their Hummer as an "issue". I know that Cadillac is pulled down because of the 3.2 litre CTS engine that they don't even sell anymore. That's like saying "The Prius and Corolla are clean environmentally, but the Land Cruiser and 4Runner are the worst polluters in their category".... oh.. wait... woops, that one is true. Solstice aside because there is only one other non-GM in it's category. We know that Uplander is a dead man walking and I'm leary of the Cobalt's numbers from CR anyway. There are still vehicles like the Impala, Aura, G6, LaCrosse, Lucerne <no 4-speed OR 6-speed failures>, GMT-900s <no snapping camshafts>. Lambdas <no steering wheels falling off>, etc etc etc. I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to buy a Camry. I'm saying that the Camry's issues in the past <sludging 4-cylinders, failing 6-speeds> don't get published, while Impalas "issue" of a fully functional, smooth, reliable 4-speed gets harped on constantly. bullox! BMW's 3-series had major mechanical failures during C/D's test drive comparison and they STILL said it was the best. Reviewer's snide, anti-domestic, comments are well documented in this forum.

if you live AND work in downtown and only need a car for occasional trips.... Zipcar or Flexcar could be a great alternative.

So here's the deal guys. I am contemplating a move out of the country for a few years. I plan to put the CTS up on swaplease to get out of my lease early, but I do want a vehicle <other than the Avalanche> to drive in the meantime while I'm still in the states. Storage when I leave isn't a problem. So I'm looking at 1979-1985 E-bodys and the Seville. Maaaybe a RWD 98 if I find one I like enough. Here is a Toronado I like

Might even be an option for Fly....

Here it is....

My member number is lower then yours, so I'm going to cut you some slack. </pompous ass> It's the PR machine of Toyota that is the problem here. It's Toyota's ability to have the car mags end with "...it's good, just not up to the Japanese imports" in every review of every domestic. Camry v. Impala is a great example of this..... reviewers will write pages about the Impala is behind the times with it's 4-speed transmission while praising the Camry's 6-speed..... yet what good is a 6-speed when two of the 6 gears don't work? You NEVER hear about those problems in reviews. The 4-speed might be old, but it's one of the smoothest and most reliable transmissions on the market. Now before any of you get your panties in a twist, I'm not saying that the Impala is a better car. I am saying that GM has matched Toyota on reliability in this segment and that the needs of the individual should be the deciding factor... NOT the reliability. I'll stop pointing out Toyota defects when reviews for Toyota cars end with ".... it's a good car, but it can't escape the <transmission/engine sludge/ball joint, airbag> reliability concerns of it's predecessor."..... because then I won't have to.

Bairel Oldsmobile Cadillac in Wexford... with a resounding yes.

1. Fleet 2. Captive audience, Regal/Intrigue buyers aren't going to Saturn 3. With all the rebates and deals on the LaX, it still is a good car for the money. 4. Aura is a new concept for Saturn, the L-series never caught on so it doesn't have a loyal following.

That guy is too butch to be croc

Have you looked into ZipCar?

What he said.

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