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4 cylinder Aura to become availiable

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would this move to be move some to rentals? hopefully the 6 speed would be easy to get, 2 levels not the 3 the bu will have.

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Just make the 6-speed standard. In its market filled with import humpers, it'll need it. If anyone wants a 4-speed with a 4-cyl they can get a Malibu.

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So, in other words, the Aura Hybrid is now basically pointless.

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So, in other words, the Aura Hybrid is now basically pointless.

... and overpriced. Assuming the XE-4 comes in at $1,390 less than the XE V-6, as it is between the G6 I-4 and V-6, they're charging full-hybrid money ($3,090) for a +2 MPG light-hybrid.

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I think its a bad idea - originally they said they weren't going to and I don't know why they changed their mind. This could take away Malibu sales and why would anyone want to buy an Aura HYBRID that gets just 2 more MPG than the four cylinder? I think GM's midsize cars should go like this:

Chevy Malibu - Value for the money, fuel efficiency, 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder

Saturn Aura - attractive european styling, decent power/fuel efficiency, 2 V6s

Pontiac G6 - bold & aggresive styling, powerful and exciting, V6 and a V8!

There could potentially be a V8 Malibu SS but I'm against it, midsize Saab sedan should also have V6s standard

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I think its a bad idea - originally they said they weren't going to and I don't know why they changed their mind. This could take away Malibu sales and why would anyone want to buy an Aura HYBRID that gets just 2 more MPG than the four cylinder? I think GM's midsize cars should go like this:

Chevy Malibu - Value for the money, fuel efficiency, 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder

Saturn Aura - attractive european styling, decent power/fuel efficiency, 2 V6s

Pontiac G6 - bold & aggresive styling, powerful and exciting, V6 and a V8!

There could potentially be a V8 Malibu SS but I'm against it, midsize Saab sedan should also have V6s standard

I don't see the problem, since most Saturn buyers wouldn't touch a Chevrolet. If the Aura is going aftter Camry/Accord/Altima, it needs a 4-cilinder, period.

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If Saturn is going to offer the 4 cylinder engine with a 4 speed auto transmission, then I think it is a bad idea. If the 4 cylinder engine is combined with the 6 speed auto transmission, then I think it could work. If GM is positioning Saturn against the imports, it must offer offer comparable technology or surpass the technology of the import competition (the Toyota Camry 4 cylinder is combined with a 5 speed auto transmission). If the 4 cylinder/6 speed automatic is offered, then I think Saturn can increase sales by attracting more fuel conscious buyers. I think the "image" of a 4 cylinder engine sometimes attracts fuel conscious buyers, whether the mileage is much better than a V6 or not.

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This makes no sense at all.

The Saturn brand is supposed to be premium everyday cars.

Now the Aura has that old tech (in the medias eayes) pushrod engine.

But the everyones car the Malibu ONLY has the 3.6L as a V6.

I don't see how this makes sense.

Offer a 4 cyl which is a great idea.....but get rid old the 3.5L.

And while we are at it drop it from the Vue also.

Saturn should not have pushrods period!

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The 3500 VVT is a very proven power-plant and has an amazing torque band. I think having more options (aka) engine is a wonderful thing. Empowering consumer to pick exactly what they want. I believe someday 6spd. autos will be standard. At least they are getting a start. Who knows next year you might not be able to get a 'Bu or Aura with a 4spd. automatic. Give them time... GM is off to a solid start (finally) better late than ever.

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This is a bit crazy. They'll HAVE to lower the price below the 20 grand base price. Though this would make it more comparable in the eyes of Camry&Co. shoppers, it'll conflict with the 'Bu. And the Malibu is so much better looking, it'd eat the Aura's sales up. Sad.

This is why I was opposed to Saturn pushing upmarket in the first place. Now Saturn can be Saturn, Olds, Saab, Chevy, and Buick in price, prestige, and engines. That's retarted. I say keep with the 6s, but oh well.

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This is a bit crazy. They'll HAVE to lower the price below the 20 grand base price. Though this would make it more comparable in the eyes of Camry&Co. shoppers, it'll conflict with the 'Bu. And the Malibu is so much better looking, it'd eat the Aura's sales up. Sad.

This is why I was opposed to Saturn pushing upmarket in the first place. Now Saturn can be Saturn, Olds, Saab, Chevy, and Buick in price, prestige, and engines. That's retarted. I say keep with the 6s, but oh well.

Looks like the old GM model is still alive..overlapping models that result in each brand competing with each other...brilliant.

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The 3500 VVT is a very proven power-plant and has an amazing torque band. I think having more options (aka) engine is a wonderful thing. Empowering consumer to pick exactly what they want. I believe someday 6spd. autos will be standard. At least they are getting a start. Who knows next year you might not be able to get a 'Bu or Aura with a 4spd. automatic. Give them time... GM is off to a solid start (finally) better late than ever.

Where to begin...

1. Saturn is supposed to be moving upmarket...so the 6 speed auto should be there. This is another example of GM backtracking...could it have anything to do with Aura's disappointing sales so far?

2. This either should have been there from the start or not done at all. GM again missed an opportunity to have a value/MPG leader, so now they're going to go back and step on the Malibu's toes at its launch!

3. The hybrid is officially a waste of time with this measure.

4. GM's 'solid' start? When and what have they started? The solid start would have been selling GMT900's without incentives for a year or two...a solid start would be Saturn selling 100% more vehicles, as they have doubled the lineup!

The last thing GM needs is more excuses...(ie 'we're reducing fleet sales", "the price of gas", "Toyota's massive incentives on Tundra").

This comapny needs a change at the top, someone willing to take a chance or two...this death by a thousand cuts is painful to watch!

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Apparently, GM still hasn't decided what to do with the Aura. It was supposed to be some type of upscale European flavored sedan but all it has turned out to be was a flop.

If GM would have put Bluetooth, Nav and other technological goodies then it could have been what GM wanted. But, we got a watered down version of the concept.

It seems to me that GM is now sliding the Aura downscale, where it will compete with the new Malibu and G6.

It would have been great for GM to position the Aura to go head to head with Passat. But the Aura is lacking so many options that they would be embarassed.

For example: Passat offers Adaptive Front Lighting, Bi-Xenon headlights, LED taillights, rain sensing wipers, heated washer nozzles.

Ooh I forgot, Aura has Onstar!!

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Without a stickshift, a four cylinder Aura is pointless. I would have rather seen either the regualr 2.4L ECOTEC/2.0L ECOTEC Turbo 4 with a 5-/6-speed manual and automatic equivalent rather than any OHV engine.

So is an Aura with the OHV engines or any Saturn for that matter. I agree. If Saturn is to become oh-so Euro, it'll NEED to dump all OHV engines.

GM should not move Saturn downmarket again. Disappointing sales? What did they expect? The Aura was never properly contented, equipped, or even marketed really. Saturn has such a small presence, coupled with far fewer dealers, of course the sales didn't light up the market.

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first off, the buyer shift has been to cheaper and more fuel efficient cars. having a 4 cylinder and cheaper version addresses that.

secondly, mags have ragged the pushrod v6 for not being as smooth or fast as a competing 4 cylinder. the ecotec 4 cylinder being offered addresses this to some degree, needing ot have a competitive four cylinder option.

third, not having a stick is ok for now i think. it would sell to small a numbers, even though myself i would be attracted to a turbo four aura.....hard sell when the 3.6/6 speed paddle shifter combo is so sweet. the fusion manual is selling ok but not setting the world on fire.

four, saturn's traditonal customer base and market perception is used to a 4 cylinder option as a base. so to appeal to the old saturn base, they need a four cylinder.

this is GM's response to jump start the aura line. give it time to work. the 6 speed will come soon. until then, lets give this model a chance to survive.

keep in mind so many other cars sell for much more than the aura and still have four poppers in them. why dumbasses pay 30k for an accord TSX for example, or loaded passats. yeah they drive nice, but its not like its a good sixpot under the hood.

the aura is a good car, the word is not out yet.!

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first off, the buyer shift has been to cheaper and more fuel efficient cars. having a 4 cylinder and cheaper version addresses that.

secondly, mags have ragged the pushrod v6 for not being as smooth or fast as a competing 4 cylinder. the ecotec 4 cylinder being offered addresses this to some degree, needing ot have a competitive four cylinder option.

third, not having a stick is ok for now i think. it would sell to small a numbers, even though myself i would be attracted to a turbo four aura.....hard sell when the 3.6/6 speed paddle shifter combo is so sweet. the fusion manual is selling ok but not setting the world on fire.

four, saturn's traditonal customer base and market perception is used to a 4 cylinder option as a base. so to appeal to the old saturn base, they need a four cylinder.

this is GM's response to jump start the aura line. give it time to work. the 6 speed will come soon. until then, lets give this model a chance to survive.

keep in mind so many other cars sell for much more than the aura and still have four poppers in them. why dumbasses pay 30k for an accord TSX for example, or loaded passats. yeah they drive nice, but its not like its a good sixpot under the hood.

the aura is a good car, the word is not out yet.!

The Aura is a good car, that needed to be great and supported by a marketing program that was coherent and sustained.

If the Saturn customer base wanted a 4 cylinder, why wasn't it there to begin with? I agree it should have one, but if we're to buy the move upmarket, why not have the 6 speed man/auto available at launch?

The TSX is a much better product on a number of levels. It's GM kool-aid time if you regard these vehicles as comparable. And both the Passat & TSX have features that are not available on Saturn's 'import fighter' that might justify the price differential. GM should not have let this car out without the high-line options that would be EXPECTED by cross-shoppers (if there are many).

I personally like the Aura...but GM has botched another lauch of a savior product. Let's be completely honest--if they wanted to reinvent Saturn, the Aura, Outlook & Sky should be wonderful places to start....have you seen the sales figures? It's embarassing and people should be fired.

They needed to put $ in to relaunch Saturn, instead they used limited launch budgets for individual products that got lost in the shuffle, media-wise.

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The Aura is a good car, that needed to be great and supported by a marketing program that was coherent and sustained.

If the Saturn customer base wanted a 4 cylinder, why wasn't it there to begin with? I agree it should have one, but if we're to buy the move upmarket, why not have the 6 speed man/auto available at launch?

The TSX is a much better product on a number of levels. It's GM kool-aid time if you regard these vehicles as comparable. And both the Passat & TSX have features that are not available on Saturn's 'import fighter' that might justify the price differential. GM should not have let this car out without the high-line options that would be EXPECTED by cross-shoppers (if there are many).

I personally like the Aura...but GM has botched another lauch of a savior product. Let's be completely honest--if they wanted to reinvent Saturn, the Aura, Outlook & Sky should be wonderful places to start....have you seen the sales figures? It's embarassing and people should be fired.

They needed to put $ in to relaunch Saturn, instead they used limited launch budgets for individual products that got lost in the shuffle, media-wise.

I do want to point out that with the Passat, you can option it almost all the way to 40k. If Saturn tried that we'd be hearing things like "Who'd pay 40k for a Saturn?".

then again.... who'd pay 40k for a Passat?

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The sure thing to get my wife and myself into the Aura would be to offer a manual transmission. F'K tap shifting, either you want a slush box or a manual. The Aura's weight is not too heavy, so put in the 4 cly. prefurably the turbo. The Aura is a nice car and should of had a manual in the first place. Some people have big issues of having 4 cyl. in mid size cars. Get over it. It was the same BS 25 years ago trying to get drivers out of their V8's into 6 cyl's. My 9-3 weights 3200 lbs and no way in the world would I ever waste my cash to upgrade to the V6. It's not worth it. But then I guess there is a big part of the population out there that feel if they have the bigger motor it's a sure guarantee of 3-4 inch's to the length of their penis.

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