Drew Dowdell

I think his idea of success in a luxury brand is this weird, awkward, fish-like structure, which I see as less of a testament of success than pulling up in a Hyundai Elantra. At least in the Hyundai, people kno U aren't try to pose. the name I coined for the CLA and GLA are Mercedes-Pretendz

I posed your question to my friend at Cadillac PR, so consider this the official word on the 4.0T. Me - "heya. What's with the 4.0T badge on the back of the CT6 in Shanghai?" Him - "We have different badging in China for the various powertrains. 4.0T = phev ... 2.0T engine + more power. This is for China market only" Me - "kinda like how an S550 is actually a 4.7l? Him - "You got it"

the pictures should slowly come back over the next hour or so. As I mentioned, it was not theme related, but related to a test install of the the next version of C&G which is on all new software.

Yeah, that's not theme related. I'll take a look in between flights today.

but.. but... but... .when i was at the Benz Museum in Stuttgart, they said they invented the automobile.... and they were the first with airbag restraint too.... and that they were the first with traction control.... and that they were the first with ABS!

And our point is that Cadillac is getting the power to weight ratio better by working on the denominator AND the numurator both at the same time. Cadillac is putting out V6es with the same power output as your bloody Benzes AND making their cars weigh a lot less. The V8 is coming and I suspect another iteration of the 3.6TT. On top of that, Cadillac is getting their own Turbo 4s. ... and Cadillac is way ahead of the Germans on the weight loss thing and you simply can't stand to see Cadillac pull ahead of the Germans on something.

I'm glad you all like it.

There's room for both. Apparently though, the CT6 will be super quiet inside, so though it may have a twin-turbo V8 under the hood, you won't hear much of it.

Really? You're going to try and troll the site owner? Who wants to take bets on who will win this?

These two are just up the street from me.

According to De nysshen, every Cadillac will get a plug-in version and most will get diesels. I expect there will only be one plug-in power train as it will likely be super low volume.

So bland...

The CT6 with 400hp is not the V-Sport. The E250 BlueTEC weighs 4,200lbs and the E350 weighs 4,012..... So at best the E-Class will still be 350lbs heavier than the larger CT6. The BMW 740i porks in at 4,310, so when it loses 450lbs it will still weigh 200lbs more than the larger CT6. You're nit-picking about perceived deficiencies in Cadillac power output and we are pointing out that Cadillac is picking a different path by cutting weight instead of just throwing more power at the car. Even in base form, the CT6 has more power than the 5-series base engine, while weighing 200lbs less AND offering more passenger room. Why are the Germans so far behind in the weight loss game?

Feel free to leave the skin set to Nerva ... once I'm satisfied that it is ready to go, I will force all users onto the new look.

Fusion XL is exactly right

By that thinking, the Corvette should lose the V8 in favor of turbo 4 and turbo V6 engines, because the Corvette is lighter than a GT-R or Mercedes SL, and the Corvette can do with less power. A 300 hp Turbo 4 would give the Corvette the same power as in 1996, and a 400 hp turbo V6 would give the same power as 2005, so that should be adequate, since the imports weight more. Sure... if my thinking was so narrow minded like yours in that there is only one way to skin a cat..... but there are multiple paths to the same performance goal. Lately, the German's have been taking a 1960s domestics approach ... their vehicle weights keep creeping up and up so their response is to just throw more power at the car to keep up with acceleration expectations. Cadillac is taking a different path. They are going on an extreme weight loss plan while still increasing power though not quite as much. The CT6 is larger than the short wheel base 7 series but weighs about the same as a 335xi. It is a few inches shorter than an S-Class but weighs the same as a C350. The ability to do that kind of weight cutting is going to put the Germans at a huge disadvantage as Cadillac rolls this technology out to other vehicles. How many minutes til he brings up the Jag XJ to bring negativity on anything U just posted about the CT6??? He will fail in that one as well The XJ was still heavier than the CT6 and with smaller packaging inside as well. As much as I liked those 2004-2009 XJs, the interior simply wasn't up to the standards of the class.

but how much wider was it?

So the current site skin we are using was only a temporary fix. The prior skin did not render properly on certain brower/OS combinations so I had to change it quickly. I have a new skin installed and have been testing it for about two weeks. I am getting ready to switch the site over to the new skin very soon. This new theme is very mobile friendly and will allow you to use C&G from your phone or tablet much easier than you can today. I invite you to try the new skin by scrolling to the bottom of any page, click Change Theme, and pick the theme named Nerva. To switch back, pick the theme named Haze. As always please report any issues in this thread.

Again.. irrelevant and wrong. Cadillac has a 420HP, 460 ft lb V8 in their most recognizable vehicle, the Escalade. They also will have V8 in the CTS-V and CT6. That still completely ignores the fact that their TTv6s from 3.0L to 3.6L encompass ground from 400hp to 464hp. Also in the 2007 Cadillac had a S/C V8 with 469HP and a N/A one with 403HP. U are ignoring all of that for the simpleton sake of your argument...again.. against anything positive from Cadillac I was only using base V8s to make the comparison easy. Because this is also about the mainstream engines, as the Northstar was main Cadillac engine of the 90s. Mercedes had a 622 hp supercharged V8 in the SLR in 2007, I guess I could compare that to the 469 hp Cadillac supercharged V8. But that wouldn't really seem fair. Bud get it thru your SKULL.. if GM wanted to produce a 622HP V8 in 2007 they would have. Furthermore if my memory serves me right the SLR's engine was actually more developed by Mclaren, cost about $500K and never met the goals of sales that Mercedes set for it Oh, well if 3rd party tuners count, Lingenfelter offers a 670 hp / 600 lb-ft tune for the 2007 Z-06

By that thinking, the Corvette should lose the V8 in favor of turbo 4 and turbo V6 engines, because the Corvette is lighter than a GT-R or Mercedes SL, and the Corvette can do with less power. A 300 hp Turbo 4 would give the Corvette the same power as in 1996, and a 400 hp turbo V6 would give the same power as 2005, so that should be adequate, since the imports weight more. Sure... if my thinking was so narrow minded like yours in that there is only one way to skin a cat..... but there are multiple paths to the same performance goal. Lately, the German's have been taking a 1960s domestics approach ... their vehicle weights keep creeping up and up so their response is to just throw more power at the car to keep up with acceleration expectations. Cadillac is taking a different path. They are going on an extreme weight loss plan while still increasing power though not quite as much. The CT6 is larger than the short wheel base 7 series but weighs about the same as a 335xi. It is a few inches shorter than an S-Class but weighs the same as a C350. The ability to do that kind of weight cutting is going to put the Germans at a huge disadvantage as Cadillac rolls this technology out to other vehicles.

I can't decide if I like this or not..... I'm leaning towards not. I suppose it will make an okay cop car.

My contention is over the word "Branded" I think you're right...

Heh... Cadillac is right there in 2015, but they are producing it with 2 fewer cylinders. They have two V6es that put out similar numbers and when put into vehicles that are lighter, roughly equal the power to weight ratio of the Germans. Note that in the E/CLS/M Classes, Mercedes detunes the 4.7 liter to 402hp and 443 lb-ft, so compared to a CTS-VSport, the E-Class has less power, one less gear, and more weight.

2. False 3. Jaguar is at least one of the Ford users. Facel Vega used a Hemi I believe..... though I think you are going to get a bit of contention over the wording of this question. 4. not at all

That sounds like Ford's modular engine idea from the last 25 years... It goes back s lot further than that.