Drew Dowdell

I like a lot of those BV, but not sure the Rondo counts as fabulous in any way. To clarify, it's not just about a flop of an idea or car, but more of a grand idea.... an attempt to step outside the status quo only to fail to catch on that we are going for.

Flop. It'd be so easy too! Good idea! I really liked them when they came out, but that was before I bought a house and the apartment buildings and needed something that actually could haul more than a few pillows.

Guys, I'd like to re-start the great Fabulous Flops series we had going. What are some great flops that you would like to see us cover?

Gee, and I thought it was Kia that was trying to be Audi....

No one develops the coupe at the same time as the convertible anymore. It hasn't been done that way as a rule for well over 20 years.

Sonic 5-door... yes.

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I just put snow tires on the CR-V which will be the primary Winter duty vehicle. $300 from Tirerack - $40 installed at Costco. Next year I'll get them for the Encore... they were just more than I wanted to spend right now.

As I've found out from owning it. It's because the front passenger seat folds flat. I've used it as a work desk when on trips.

Nope, don't think so. VW, unlike GM, has had the ability to decently manage a bunch of very different brands by not building carbon coies of each other wearing different badges. How well are Skoda and SEAT doing these days really?

DING DING DING! Group 1 - All EPA size class Compact Ford Fiesta, Chevrolet Camaro, Infiniti Q50, Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG, Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe, and Toyota Yaris Group 2 - All EPA size class mini-Compact Aston Martin DB9 and Scion iQ Group 3 - All EPA size class Mid-Size Chevrolet Sonic (though I should have said 5-door), Buick Regal, Lexus LS460, and Bentely Mulsanne I put this quiz up because of the absurdity of these groupings. I am planning an article about it.

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getting slightly warmer

It's not going to be all models, but I could see Camaro getting these tail lights.

I already have the schedule, what are you thinking will be shown?

I can't give closeness :-P Your guess was incorrect.

No, but you're heading in the right direction.

Think more along the lines of rules and regulations.

No.

Interesting! My hunch was that you would be the one to get it as we've had a discussion on here about it. I'll give another hint: It is not at all obvious that these groups share their respective trait, in fact, if you gave the random person on the street these lists and told them what the trait was, they would think you were crazy.

those are some great prices! Too hard to do on my phone right now, but I would snap one of them up if it was AWD. No AWD = No Sale in this house.