Polish_Kris

Yeah, I remember the dealership I worked at, there have been lots of customers coming back with this problem. The intake manifold would cause the coolant to leak out, and once there was a seized engine that came back because of that, like the article says. Little cost-cutting like this ruin GM's reputation for the long-run.

Yeah, they will recall it and fix the problem, Toyota's reputation is riding on this.

My bad I was half-asleep when I read your post, but you get my point, and I sort of get your point. You're a bit right about the $8,000, however, you gotta take a less partisan approach to this, and face the fact that as much as all of want, GM is currently not producing world-class vehicles like Toyota is, and until that happens it's best of them to drop the prices lower in order to stay heavily competative. Like they were doing fifteen years ago, when Japanese cars were almost twice as much expensive than American cars, and buying an American car was worth it because of the lower price. Now the domestics have almost tied with the Imports, so what's the better deal?

CARBIZ: I noticed you're very partisan when it comes to the imports, especially Toyota. Like O.C. said, you are out of touch, using numbers that are LOWER, and still saying it is not a big difference Then making personal attacks against me, and then telling us these horror stories of your sister's Toyota. Isn't that hearsay as well? I'm speaking from a realistic point of view, but you, and some members on the board, are so partisan, that no matter what Toyota does, it's always going to be bad.

Saw two 9-2X's on the 4-oh-1 the other day, only three car lengths apart Very rare to even see one

Yeah, and it probably kept driving...

No, No this is SAE. When the Avalon came out with the non-SAE measures it was 280 hp, remember? They weren't lying about their hp, that's an exaggeration. They were testing their engines under Japanese standards. Therefore, under SAE, it is 268 hp. If anything, I know a mechanic working for GM, and he tells me it's very hard to get warranty work out of GM. I was told that GM will tell the mechanic to do anything not to award the warranty. I know two guys who worked for Toyota, and there was no discussion, just claim warranty. And as for pocketing $8000, I'm sure you will at purchase, but 3 or 4 down the road, you will still get back an extra $8000 because you will still get allot for the Avalon, meanwhile you wont get much back for an Impala (believe me I know). If you buy domestic, it's good to lease, because you don't have to worry about selling it, and getting nothing back for it, or buy it, and keep it til it dies.

Shut up, nobody cares what you're saying, especially CreativeVision. You sound like a member from GMI, who comes on the Asian Marques board and talks non-sense. Go to GMI, you'll fit in nicely over there.

Um yes, I admit it's a boring design, however, the interior was as solid as a rock, and the materials were top-notch. Unlike the Lucurne I sat in Detroit, the headliner was made of the thinest material available from automotive suppliers, its begin to come off... http://s55.photobucket.com/albums/g153/Kri...nt=4beba9ef.jpg

Ya, and the Lucurne is better than a Pursuit, you're compairing apples to oranges. Ya, but the difference between a Toyota and a BMW5 is that you can have the luxury, and service it at any shop (the Toyota), however BMW needs to be serviced by BMW, btw, an oil change for a BMW5 is 120$CDN, oil change for Avalon, 19,95$ at Mr. Lube, follow my drift? The Lucurne is an alright car, but for a domestic it is overpriced for what you're getting. 38,000$CDN? for 197 hp V6, 4 speed auto, and dashboard materials out of a Cobalt? Meanwhile, Avalon is 40,150$CDN, and you get 5 speed automatic, 268 horsepower V6, and the interior of a Lexus. Now I know the base Lucurne start out at 30,000$CDN, I am comparing a simularly-equiped Lucurne with an Avalon. The Lucurne would be great if it cost around 28,000$CDN, because you're getting a durable 3800 V6, and an indistructable 4 speed automatic. Before you begin throwing accusations that I'm a Toyota troll, compare the two vehicles, and find out why Toyota is winning the market. A good product, at a competative price. GM's are too overpriced!!! How do they expect to win over import buyers? By pricing their cars almost the same, wake up GM!!! A couple thousand bucks lower than the Japanese wont help them.

SHUT UP! HeHe Very True! Very good points! Agree 100%

Oh great, first Lance, now you... A little bit too much GM-Kool-Aid? What evidence or proof do you have to back up your claim that an Impala is 100 times better than an Avalon? Take off your GM goggles, the Allure is a nice car, but doesn't compare to the Avalon.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3853924320276782507 And you thought Quebec drivers were bad?

Ok, then just say you simply don't like it, but not make up stupid excuses for it.

No, what he is saying is you're replying like children, it's like being 10 years old and sharing your opinion of PS2 and all the other kids like XBOX. As soon as one kid says something good about PS2, they reply in a childish manner by throwing stupid words around. He's a good member, with no bias, and an open mind. We need more of him like this, and less of the Lance figures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CTIxykcTH8...0gear%20pontiac

They will, at least that's the rumour.

Testie-boy, get a life at once!

Don't you ever have anything intelligent to post?

Nicer looking than the Ridgeline, whatever happened to the rumour of this automaker coming to North America?

Why aren't you?

I know the sludging was recalled, at least here in Canada, I heard there was something done about the Odyssey and TL, not sure though.

Not Toyota's fault for the layoffs.

How old are you?