Sixty8panther

Fly: You're absolutely right, I think if I was a millionare I MIGHT pay $40,000 for the car since I lkoved the show as a kid... but if I'm going to spend $10 mill in ONE place it better be an auction for the Last Duesenberg ever made with the "Tiger Hunt" 1931 Cadillac (bodied by Pininfarina) on a trailer behind it.

Ugly or not, the point is Dodge & Chrysler were selling ZERO cars with V8s a few years ago, so if sales of their V8 powered cars are down for 2007 it does NOT indicate that the V8 is becoming LESS "popular" or anything even CLOSE to waht the title of this thread indicates. The death of the V8 means it is goign away completely. Maybe if gas hits $10 a gallon and stays there ofr the next few years V8s will get scarce in cars and less prominant in trucks but even then V8s are not dying any time in the near future. Just the assumption is (sorry) f**king retarded.

Please do NOT mess up a great 389 by installing EFI on it. If you had 5,000 to do it right I'd still say don't but if you plan on driving it everyday and not as some show car & you want to do it on a budget then do NOT mess w/ some jimmy rigged fuel rail & computer. Other than that just enjoy the hell out of the car, but try to keep it original. Balthazar: If I ever win the Lottery or inherit a bunch of money I want first dibs on your awsome G/P, between those awsome 8-lug wheels and the great patina the car has I can imagine it being a kickass 100% stock drag car & weekend road warrior.

I think it is MORE logical to have the collector/express lanes blocked off. Plus on a road like that, if I was a cop I'd ticket every jackass who cut someone off or was traveling in a lane other than the fast lane without yielding to faster traffic. Morons who drive 65mph in the fast lane & REFUSE to move the hell over when you're doing 79mph drive me crazy. They also induce road rage, cause pileups and other such mess. People in the USA seldom understand the term "PASSING LANE"

Yeah, it's subtle but there is a hint of 1980s portholes on the C-pillar.

I think a better way to save money would be to remove my B-59's spark plugs and install a basic EFI setup that would squirt Bio-Diesel fuel in there instead. This way every time I get $13 worth of fast food I can also get $60 worth of fuel for FREEEEEEEE!!!!

Ugly or not the 1997 Mopars did NOT include even ONE V8 powered car, not ONE. Now they have 3 CARS in their lineup with two different V8s, and several V8 powered trucks.

I'm still hearing $h! like the V8 is already dead... That is a stupid statement. The day the LAST EVER V8 powered car & truck rolls off the assembly line I'll let you shoot me in the face w/ a .357 Magnum. Chances are, the internal combustion motor is going to stay in production to some capacity for most of our lifetimes. I am willimg to bet it will outlive me anyway. Hell, that's not to say that it will not become more rare but dead is DEAD. I could say that four cylinder cars are DEAD to me since Ihave not owned one in 6 years but it would be pretty stupid of me to say that four cylinder cars are DEAD in general. This is what I'm talking about this thread is the equivelant of the photos of "BAT BOY" from the Enquirerer passing for legit Journalism.

Okay.... so as of today, Thursday, May 10th 2007 there is less than five weeks left before I hit the road with several friends to drive about 3700 miles in less than a week. I promissed DodgeFan I'd hammer out the timeline on here since he's going along. So here goes. I'm hoping to get about 13mpg on this trip since it will be 95% highway miles and I'm either taking the 1959 Buick which has a 6.0 liter V8, or perhaps (blasphemy!) I might take the 1977 Cadillac instead. The Cadillac has a very economical rear end in it... 2.08:1, but it breathes through a big 4bbl and displaces 425 cubic inches/7.0 liters. So for the sake of argument, since Big Red got about 13mpg and the B-59 gets about 11mpg I'm going to go with 12mpg. That means since the trip will be at least 3700 miles long I will be burning through about 308 gallons of gas. 3700 miles / 12 mpg = 308.333 308 gallons these days will cost about $925, that is assuming that gas prices stay at $3.00 for regular. So I will need well over a thousand dollars between gas, oil coffee & all the Wendy's Chicken Nuggets I will eat. I'm hoping to have a friend pay for at least $300 of the gas. Depending on who is coming along this is waht might be a big determining factor between the deVille & the LeSabre. --- Now the way I figure it we will drive down the east coast on way down to Tulsa and drive up through the great lakes area on the way up back to Mass. Here's a tenantive timeline/map. The Plymouth will be dug up and put on display on the 15th of June 2007; exactly fifty years after it was burried. So in order to work around the 15th I have decided this schedule makes the most sense. 12th: Leave early afternoon, maybe at 3pm or so, drive through NYC Visit Balthazar, Camino, GM1 & any others who want to get together in the NJ/PA area. 13th: Drive down east coast, into So. Carolina 14th: Drive across the Bible belt, into TX and up into OK. 15th: Chill in Tulsa with Duffy, tons of random car guys (& a few people off Buick-59.com), see a '57 Belvedere Sport Coupe come up into the light of day for the first time in half a century. 16th: Drive up into Chicago & hang out with Knight Fan 17th: Drive through Detroit and Niagara Falls. 18th: Drive through Lancaster County & hang out with O.B. 19th: Day off from work in case of delays due to traffic &/or visits. If all goes well, sleep the WHOLE day away. Now most of you have no idea of my plans as of yet so as you read this you might be a little perplexed that I've got you on my agenda. This is probably the way the cards will fall, if you can meet up for a cup of coffee or maybe at some cheesburger joint then GREAT, if not I will not be offended. Either way you have a whole month to PM me & set up something, Last time, in 2005 I managed to meet up with GM1, Balthazar, Camino, BBL, BatmanWV & O.B. even though I only had 3 days advance notice of my trip and I still had time to go check out a 1959 Buick off eBay in NJ with Balthazar. So best case scenario, if time and ga$ money allows we will travel through about 25 states, of which I've only been to about half. 1. Massachusetts 2. Rhode Island 3. Connecticut 4. New York 5. New Jersey 6. Pennsylvania 7. Deleware 8. Maryland 9. Virginia 10. North Carolina 11. South Carolina 12. Georgia 13. Alabama 14. Mississippi 15. Tennessee 16. Arkansas 17. Texas 18. Oklahoma --- 19. Kansas 20. Missouri 21. Iowa 22. Illinois 23. Indiana 24. Michigan 25. Ohio

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Not that I care much any more but the Maxima SHOULD go RWD like my 1st gen. 810 based sedan. Nissan needs to realize that the ONLY TRUE "four door sports car" they ever made was the 1st. generation Maxima. 240Z mechanicals complete with RWD, 5-speed MANUAL trans, 4-wheel disk brakes & IRS in a small nimble package was cool... the subsequent torsion beam SOLID rear axle that did NOTHING except mount up to the parking brake & hold the ass end of the car up was & is LAME. If a FWD Maxima can be called a FOUR DOOR SPORTS CAR than BMW might as well call the M5 a Duesenberg SJ Dual Cowl Pheaton.

This thread is ridiculous, but it gives me an excuse to post a pic. of me trying to look James Dean cool with my Buick.

YES! Payback for the B-body/Panther fiasco here in the USA.

Balthazar raises a good point. Those horrific Chinese Quality Control methods may well prove to be Lucas Electronics style authentic. Anyway I say the Chinese start making Plymouths: P pleasing L lightweight Y youthful M motoring O ownership U unparalleled T to H Hong Kong

DF: Whenever I need a horn I go to the junkyard I grab a pair out or a last gen. Buick RoadMonster. They have probably the loudest horns of anything made after 1987. My 1968 Camaro, the Datsun & even the 1983 Firebird has Roadmaster horns. --- My buddy Duffy commented to me the other day that I used the Horn on my Cadillac & in my B59 more often in one day than he does in about a month. If someone cuts me off, esp. when I'm driving a big boat, well that is all the excuse I need to make them $hit their pants when I press that big horn ring. Also, it's hella cool to go under a 10 lane wide overpass I lay on the horn for a good 7 seconds to hear the echo.

Well, what ever, sorry to come off as hostile but this thread is kind of an inside joke for me. XP & I often remark on it when we see a CTS-V racing a Charger HEMI on Rt.3 in NH or like the otehr day when we saw 3 Mustangs in about 20 minutes. Actaully we saw about a dozen Mustangs in 20 minuts but we noticed the three that were Shelby GT500s. If the V8 was ever going to die it would have donw so in 1974. The idea of the V8 dying is more lame to me than having to pay $4800 to replace the Batterys in your Prius in about 80,000 miles. The V8 is not dying, it's not in danger it's not even becoming more scarce, I Let's do some math, between 1997 and 2007 which year do you think Chevrolet sold MORE V8s....? In 1997 they probably sold 30,000 or so V8 powered Camaros & a $hitload of Sliverados/Suburbans. Not tomention the Vette. In 2007 I would be willing to bet that even the lame FWD Impala is selling 30,000 V8 units, not to mention the Monte Carlo & the hot-as-hell Corvette/Z06, as mentioned previously the Suburban, Silverado, Tahoe, Trailblazer, Express etc. The V8 has a healthier future today than it has in a long time.

MOre and more I'm begining to think all this back-n-forth is juat smoke & mirrors to drum up interest & demand for these cars. Zeta HAS to be the answer. It's ZETA or dye for Buick & Pontiac if you ask me. I love the nose of this car... bold, european & yet also very luxurious. I hope they give it a BIG chrome waterfall grille & a liberal spash of chrome on the side. Call me crazy but I say put four portholes on the REAR 1/4 panel above the rear wheel... & give the tail lights some mroe chrome accents.

I love the Dukes of Hazzard & I love the '68-'70 Charger but I am quite sick to death of seeing every f@#king one converted into a hugger orange joke. You know the Chargers I notice? I saw a blood-red 1968 once with a light (white IIRC) interior and a white vinyl roof. That was a gorgeous car... and a yellow/black/black I saw at a car show last summer caught my eye. I do not even stop to look at Gen. Lee replicas anymore, they're more plentiful than 1966 Mustangs with Shelby stripes & 18" rims. That being said THIS car is priceless to the right person.

KnightFan: Stop it, you're killing me. I love the Banana Boat & I loved Big Red but if I ever MUST own one other 77-79 CdV it has to be a copper (probably the Cinnamon brown you mention) one w/ a black carrige top just like Ray Leota drives in Goodfellas. I tried to save a Copper/white/white 1979 coupe from the junkyard about a month before XP draqgged Big Red to my house. The car was 99% complete, the only thing it was missing was wheels & a few trim pieces on the inside. By the time I went back to grab a few things off it it was CRUSHED. I wanted to kill those motherf**kers. They stack totalled Acuras, Hondas, Toyopets & Lexi 4 cars high & keep 'em for 7 years but that car gets crushed in a month. WTF? x 1,000,000,000 The one consolation was that at least ONE small part of that car lived on... I grabbed the Hood Ornament off of it and since Big Red came with no H.O. the whole time Big Red was in Tight Whips ownership it wore that copper coupe's. I still have it, when XP went to sell B.R. I replaced it with a regular one off of a F.B. and took the aerodynamic one off. Anyway it's funny that you mention that because that's the car that made me fall in love with these coupes. The way Ray Leota drives it in that movie is hillarious too. Between his poor brother stiring the spaghetti sauce, Bobby DeNiro bitching about metric silencers not fitting his standard firearms & the freekin' Helicopter that's following him all over town, he drives that old 2.2 ton Cadillac like it's some Porsche 911 or other sports car. The first night I had the '77 Banana Boat I locked up the brakes & slid down a twenty foot section of Rt.3A in a nose dive just for $h!s & giggles. No matter how many cars I own and how many modern imported sporty & high end luxury cars I drive I still have yet to find a car more comfortable and fun to drive than a big BOF Cadillac. There's just nothing else like 'em and if things keep going the way they are there NEVER will be a car more comfortable than these '60s & '70s Land Yachts. WMJ: I'm lovin' the Grand Marqis, that is a T!GH+ WH1P all day long! God damn it's clean, not a rust-bubble visible anywhere. As far as putting mad-cool danks on my hoopty I'm actually thinkning about putting on the LED light-up plastic-chrome hubcaps I bought from AutoZone on clearance as a Joke. I have a set of 14"s and 15"s. Of course it would be only as joke for a day or two but it be funny to get a photo of the car with them on, they make all kinds of paterns with four different colored LEDs.

Thanks for resurecting an ancient, horrible thread. Enjoy your Prius. :AH-HA_wink: I've said my peace & I'm done throwing verbal punches.

I love this thing! First 200 miles have been super enjoyable. For all I know, this could be MY car.

LOL, Do you want kids to fall in love with Miatas or Solsti?

I know but it SHOULD be.

Wow, you really ARE in the sticks.