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    CES 2021 - The Cadillac Celestiq Concept

      Adding to Cadillac's EV future....

    Over the course of CES 2021, Cadillac dropped a few bombs upon the critics and car enthusiasts with their PAV Pod and eVTOL. However, they also unveiled their “EV Flagship” known as the Celestiq. Following the recent reveal of what would be Cadillac’s first electric vehicle, the Lyriq, in August of 2020, the Celestiq will be a hatchback while the Lyriq is an SUV.

    The Celestiq will be a four-seat hatchback with standard all-wheel drive. However, it will come with up and coming technology in its four-wheel steering, allowing it to make sharper and more precise turns. The vehicle will also come with transparent glass roof panels that each passenger can control to different levels of transparency, as well as a large LED display that stretches across the entire dashboard and personal screens for the rear passengers.

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    The Celestiq will be powered by a 100-kWh battery pack allowing it to have a 300+ mile range but will most likely come with a six-figure price tag. However, Cadillac asserts that it will be bespoke and hand-built in the Detroit area and be completely customized for individual customers. So if you are looking for a 4-seat luxury hatchback EV, start saving up for the 2025 release. 

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    14 hours ago, balthazar said:

    How would that remotely happen? Isn’t tesla charging buyers like 5 grand to unlock autopilot? Would take 150 years to get even half the vehicles to be on an ‘autopilot’ on all roads. ‘tis to laugh.

    I imagine by 2030 level 2 autonomy will be mandated the way ABS is now.  So every new car will have it.  The S-class can go to level 4 on a gel-fenced area next year, so by 2032 I bet many cars are capable of that.

    14 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    That’s because Tesla has had the bulk of the EV market to themselves. Let’s revisit those numbers in about three to five years when the competition goes all in on EVs. 
     

    And Tesla interiors are garbage in fit and finish and quality. You are delusional to think otherwise much think it’s better than Cadillac. 

    There is absolutely no correlation or data to suggest that will actually happen. Hell, in its current form, autopilot has made it worse. Ask the idiots who decided to take naps while their Tesla’s “drove” them home. 


    I said Cadillac has better interiors than Tesla.  But Tesla outsells Cadillac anyway.  

    Not just auto pilot but all self driving systems.  

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    2 hours ago, smk4565 said:


    I said Cadillac has better interiors than Tesla.  But Tesla outsells Cadillac anyway.  

     

    You also said that models like the XT4 and XT5 were no better than the Tesla S hence my rebuttal, skipping the fact that the S cost $30-40K MORE with that uninspiring interior.

     

    "The XT5, XT4 interiors are nothing special, a Tesla Model S is as nice as those."

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    18 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The XT5, XT4 interiors are nothing special, a Tesla Model S is as nice as those.  

    AAAAAAaaabsolutely not.... and I'm no big fan of the XT interiors (though XT6 is nice enough if a bit bland in styling)

    The Model S interior is very creaky, loads of cheap plastic, misaligned panels and seams, minimalism to the point of starkness, and lets not forget the window switches from a Dodge Dart.

    18 hours ago, balthazar said:

    How would that remotely happen? Isn’t tesla charging buyers like 5 grand to unlock autopilot? Would take 150 years to get even half the vehicles to be on an ‘autopilot’ on all roads. ‘tis to laugh.

    $10k on the Model Y I priced out yesterday. 

    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    There’s no legitimate safety-based case for mandating an autonomous driving feature.

    Have you seen the drivers in NJ?

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    53 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Have you seen the drivers in NJ?

    Your bringing back the year and half I lived out of a hotel in Princeton for a job and your right, the drivers there are scary stuff! :P 

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    Wife's co-worker moved here recently from somewhere a number of states away, and her comment RE Jersey drivers was priceless; "lawless animals". It's fine here, just keep your slow-ass in the right lane. ;)

    Most accidents aren't on limited major highways where AD currently is enablable, they're on all other roads. I declined to pay $900 for the 'safety package' option on my ordered truck, and I'd never pay $2-10 grand to momentarily take my hands off the wheel so... I can rest them in my lap yet still have to be alert/looking thru the windshield. Amazing that some folk think this is a viable choice.

    IMO, that's like paying 10 grand to hit an optional button while you're driving, every 10 seconds, that silences the buzzer that's letting you know you're driving.

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    2 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Wife's co-worker moved here recently from somewhere a number of states away, and her comment RE Jersey drivers was priceless; "lawless animals". It's fine here, just keep your slow-ass in the right lane. ;)

    I'm a much calmer driver here in Pittsburgh. They're overly polite in this city to the point of being annoying.  When I'm back in NJ or NY, I turn into Mr. Hyde. 

    2 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Most accidents aren't on limited major highways where AD currently is enablable, they're on all other roads. I declined to pay $900 for the 'safety package' option on my ordered truck, and I'd never pay $2-10 grand to momentarily take my hands off the wheel so... I can rest them in my lap yet still have to be alert/looking thru the windshield. Amazing that some folk think this is a viable choice.

    But the more severe accidents are on the high speed highways. My experience driving a SuperCruise Cadillac to NJ was that it was much less tiring than doing the driving myself.  In day to day commuting I'd want to drive myself, but after about 30 minutes on the PA Turnpike that I've driven hundreds of times, I'm fine letting the car do most of the driving. 

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    15 minutes ago, ykX said:

    NJ is nothing compared to NYC drivers

    And from my travel I have to say that MA drivers are not better than NJ.

    Totally agree, there seems to be two mind sets, those that see auto's as an appliance to be used and those that care about their auto and not wanting to mess it up. NJ, NY, MA, etc. I saw way too many new auto's messed up as the owners / drivers just did not care. I also saw those that did care. Clearly a mixed pot, but you have aggressive reckless drivers and then what I call the aggressive defensive driver. I put myself in the second camp of aggressive but defensive driver.

    I want to get from point A to B and back but without damaging my auto.

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    1 hour ago, David said:

    those that see auto's as an appliance to be used and those that care about their auto and not wanting to mess it up

    I don't think being aggressive driver and caring about your car are same things.  Also, living in big cities with very limited parking and a lot of congestion will put scuffs and dings on your car no matter how careful you are.  I haven't seen one big city where cars didn't look like they just came out of demolition derby.

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    On 2/10/2021 at 5:15 PM, balthazar said:

    IMO, that's like paying 10 grand to hit an optional button while you're driving, every 10 seconds, that silences the buzzer that's letting you know you're driving.

    I share your sentiment regarding "autonomous" driving. Including Supercruising. 

    I have never thought it it that way but ABSOLUTELY YES!  

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