OUCH this is gonna cost VW again! Bloody crazy what all they have done.

Bad leadership sent all of VW down this hole.  No telling on when VW/Audi will recover.

2 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Bad leadership sent all of VW down this hole.  No telling on when VW/Audi will recover.

This will be painful.

Maybe they should just shut it down and waive the white flag to Mercedes and BMW.  But VW has crazy money and can survive about anything.  

On another note, the new A7 looks a bit like a Jensen Interceptor which is pretty bad ass.  That is a good looking car.

8 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Maybe they should just shut it down and waive the white flag to Mercedes and BMW.  But VW has crazy money and can survive about anything.  

On another note, the new A7 looks a bit like a Jensen Interceptor which is pretty bad ass.  That is a good looking car.

It is a good looking car. And that is the fate for Lincoln...not Audi.

9 hours ago, smk4565 said:

On another note, the new A7 looks a bit like a Jensen Interceptor which is pretty bad ass.  That is a good looking car.

One's an (ugly) RWD-proportioned coupe, the other is a (passable but generic) FWD-proportioned sedan. Not seeing it. And NO ONE will buy one, so it could look like a Lamborghini or a lawn tractor- doesn't matter.

I was thinking more the rear of the car, with the shape of it.  And we are talking about 45 years in between designs.

Interceptor ^ reminds me much more of an AMC Pacer than another slice off the Audi sausage.
It's an awkward, ungainly car.

8 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Interceptor ^ reminds me much more of an AMC Pacer than another slice off the Audi sausage.
It's an awkward, ungainly car.

Which is part of its appeal. While I like to both the Audi and the interceptor there are cars from both eras and markets that are much more compelling I think.

1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Which is part of its appeal.

Interesting, yet difficult to fathom.

19 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Interesting, yet difficult to fathom.

It is cool in the same way that a Harlequin VW is cool. Just kind of odd and funky. Not everything can be a 60s era Pontiac.  Although I would happily live in a world with nothing but 60s era Pontiacs.

No prob- just expressing my POV. SOMETIMES odd & funky is cool- that's true.
But in my book, 'odd & funky' struggles to be 'cool' and almost never achieves being 'a thing of beauty'.
Unless smk was calling the A7 'odd & funky', then I'll go away. ;)

Ohhh I agree with your point of view. There are about four levels of automotive class above the Audi and the Interceptor.  They are like a decent high school Freshman football game. Cars like the GTI and WRX STI and the Ford Focus RS are like a good high school varsity game.

Cars like the Miata are like a good D2 or D3 game....

60's Pontiacs and thirties Fords are like Watching Alabama play Georgia.

Duesenbergs true classics and thoroughbred race cars are like Packers vs Steelers.

I've seen a few Interceptors at events in person, I like the looks...and they have a Mopar 440 engine.  I dig the big hatchback, long hood.     

The 2nd gen Audi A7 is pretty sweet, probably would make a nice daily driver lease.  But I see no resemblance other than that both have 4 wheels.

1 hour ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

I've seen a few Interceptors at events in person, I like the looks...and they have a Mopar 440 engine.

Depends which year- started with the 383, then the 440, then the 360.

1 minute ago, balthazar said:

Depends which year- started with the 383, then the 440, then the 360.

I know, I didn't want to waste keystrokes with all the minutae..