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    What Is In BMW's Future Product Pipeline?

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      We might see a 1-Series sedan and some more crossovers

    A new report from Automotive News says BMW could be expanding their lineup of vehicles in both directions.

    On the low end is the 1-Series sedan. Already on sale in China, the model could be coming to U.S. in early 2019 according to a source. Previously, BMW said their small front-wheel drive sedan would not be sold in the U.S. But with Mercedes-Benz bringing the A-Class sedan to U.S. next year, this may have cause BMW to change their minds. A quick refresher, the 1-Series sedan is a front-wheel drive model.

    Moving over to the high-end, BMW is readying the 8-Series coupe to debut late next year. They have already shown a concept to give us an idea of what it may look like (to our eyes, it reminds us slightly of the Lexus LC coupe). It will be based on the 7-Series sedan, complete with the CLAR architecture. A convertible and Gran Coupe (4-door coupe) will be introduced at a later date. What will this mean for the 6-Series? Aside from the new 6-series Gran Turismo, expect the rest of the 6-Series family to fade away in the coming years.

    Some other bits of information from Automotive News' report,

    • The X2 will go on sale sometime in the first quarter of 2018. It will be based on the X1 and feature coupe-like styling.
    • BMW's 7-Seat X7 will debut next month at the Frankfurt Motor Show, but will not arrive to the U.S. until 2019. 
    • A new 3-Series will go on sale before the end of 2018 and use BMW's CLAR architecture. A concept electric version is expected to debut at Frankfurt.

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

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    YAWN........ So BMW is going to bring their Chevy / Toyota competitor to the US. FWD Appliance, BLAH! 

    How about their BLOATED FATNESS, that would be good to address along with their clear lack of being a driving machine. 

    BMW really needs to wake up to the world of change. 

    All I see here is them sticking to a worn out formula and not improving their actual auto's much not to mention a seriously outdated design style.

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    A 1 Series sedan? Really? It seemed to work so well the last they sold one here so hell, might as well screw it up again I guess.

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    The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

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    27 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

    This makes you ask that question of, Is BMW even paying attention to what Americans are Buying in this market? Why waste money on a 1 series car, just stay focused on quality cuv's.

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    A 1-series sedan won't sell much volume but I think they want it just because Mercedes and Audi have a car in that segment.  It is taking a long time to get the X7 to market, they have been talking about that for years.

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    A front wheel drive BMW car for North America.

    I cant wait for it to finally show up in Canadian and American BMW dealerships.

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    On 8/10/2017 at 10:47 AM, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    The 3 series has become too expensive as an entry-level lux sedan, and the 2 series has been 2drs only...so it makes sense to have an entry level sedan. Though the X1 will probably outsell it.

    BMW needs a car for the 'new credit' 'bad credit' 'first time buyers' 'poseurs with little money' crowds

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    A 1 Series won't be bought by anyone other than yuppies trying to project a higher social status. Ugh. An Mk7 GTI will hand the car it's ass on a platter.

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    31 minutes ago, Frisky Dingo said:

    A 1 Series won't be bought by anyone other than yuppies trying to project a higher social status. Ugh. An Mk7 GTI will hand the car it's ass on a platter.

    I think even the yuppies will forgo this car.

    1. the new age yuppies nowadays prefer to play with gadgets like phones and tablets and fitbit wrist thingys...

    2. the few "car enthusiast" yuppies that are around have grown up from BMW sedans and are either

    a) gone to BMW CUVs like the X1 or X3 along with their house playing wives...

    b) gone to another German manufacturer...and that yuppie will buy that manufacturer's sedan...but not really...as I think that that yuppie will probably buy that manufacturer's CUV instead.

    c) dont laugh, but I believe today's car enthusiast yuppie will probably buy a Ford Mustang instead of the 1 Series as its cool to buy a Mustang once again...

    d) and if that is only if today's car enthusiast yuppie respects the internal combustion engine...because I find that today's car enthusiast yuppie is on the electric vehicle bandwagon...and he is probably on the waiting list for the Model 3 already...or will be soon...

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    57 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    I think even the yuppies will forgo this car.

    1. the new age yuppies nowadays prefer to play with gadgets like phones and tablets and fitbit wrist thingys...

    2. the few "car enthusiast" yuppies that are around have grown up from BMW sedans and are either

    a) gone to BMW CUVs like the X1 or X3 along with their house playing wives...

    b) gone to another German manufacturer...and that yuppie will buy that manufacturer's sedan...but not really...as I think that that yuppie will probably buy that manufacturer's CUV instead.

    c) dont laugh, but I believe today's car enthusiast yuppie will probably buy a Ford Mustang instead of the 1 Series as its cool to buy a Mustang once again...

    d) and if that is only if today's car enthusiast yuppie respects the internal combustion engine...because I find that today's car enthusiast yuppie is on the electric vehicle bandwagon...and he is probably on the waiting list for the Model 3 already...or will be soon...

    Agree with everything here especially about the technology gadgets and looking / waiting for the EV's to land.

    BMW is truly wasting money on this A1 FWD appliance.

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    No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

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    On 8/13/2017 at 10:39 PM, smk4565 said:

    No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

    'yuppies' were an '80s-90s thing...don't the hip kids today aspire to Teslas and prefer Uber to driving? 

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    On 8/13/2017 at 7:39 PM, smk4565 said:

    No one wants a 1-series, yuppies know the 3-series is where it is at.  And they can argue it is better than a 5-series because it has heritage as the ultimate sports sedan and it is for young and hip people.  Where is the 5-series is like Dad's car.

    But Yuppies are all entering their 50's, so a 5 series is where they are supposed to be at this age, not the 3 series and the 3 series lost it's driving Machine cred's to the ATS!

    Yuppies are out of date in regards to the lower end auto's and Millennials are now all about the EV, Smartphones and using Uber or Lyft.

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    10 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    But Yuppies are all entering their 50's, so a 5 series is where they are supposed to be at this age, not the 3 series and the 3 series lost it's driving Machine cred's to the ATS! 

    The oldest Yuppies are in their 60s now... 

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    2 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    The oldest Yuppies are in their 60s now... 

    Does that mean I should not be wearing polo shirts with the collar up? :unsure:

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    21 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Does that mean I should not be wearing polo shirts with the collar up? :unsure:

    LoL...I remember doing my teenage Yuppie wannabe thing in high school in the late 80s w/ Izod shirts w/ the little alligator and Ralph Lauren shirts w/ the polo ponies..still wore Ralph through my 30s.. had my Members Only jacket in the 80s also.. 

    (now what passes for fashion in my wardrobe are t-shirts and polos from long-gone tech companies and past tech conferences..now those are cool IMO...)

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    22 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    LoL...I remember doing my teenage Yuppie wannabe thing in high school in the late 80s w/ Izod shirts w/ the little alligator and Ralph Lauren shirts w/ the polo ponies..still wore Ralph through my 30s.. had my Members Only jacket in the 80s also.. 

    (now what passes for fashion in my wardrobe are t-shirts and polos from long-gone tech companies and past tech conferences..now those are cool IMO...)

    I would so totally agree but the wife likes me in Tommy Bahama Polo's with the collar down. :P 

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    On 8/14/2017 at 0:44 AM, balthazar said:

    3-series lost it's 'ultimate sports sedan' title- didn't you hear?

    Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

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    7 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

    I can't imagine Alfa winning over BMW once it's unreliability and quality problems are factored in...

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    19 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Since the Cadillac ATS is going away I guess the 3-series will slide back to 2nd place in sport sedans behind the Alfa Romeo Guilia.   I don't think BMW is so lost that they can't win a sport sedan battle with Alfa Romeo over time.

    Read between the lines on that JDN announcement. The ATS is getting renamed and probably getting a hatchback. There is no more Regal sedan anymore either. But in both cases, that slot in the brands' lineups are not going unfilled. 

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    7 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Read between the lines on that JDN announcement. The ATS is getting renamed and probably getting a hatchback. There is no more Regal sedan anymore either. But in both cases, that slot in the brands' lineups are not going unfilled. 

    I read Johan's statement as CT5 replaces CTS and ATS, and slots in between the current ATS and CTS in price.  And a CT4 competes with CLA and A3 and that sweet BMW 1-series that we are getting.  Johan knows he can't beat the E-class, C-class or 3-series.  So they are going to try that tweener strategy again, maybe go after the MKZ and Infiniti Q50.  

    Cadillac already took their best shot with ATS and CTS, time to go back down the food chain.  And if he wanted to take big shots the XT5 wouldn't be an Acadia, and XT4 wouldn't be an Equinox.  So we know where his plan is going.  And he was there before XT4 hit development, excuse time is over for him being new, if he wanted a CTS-V engine in a mid-size SUV he'd have it already, even FCA has pulled that trick off a few times with no money and dated platforms.

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    2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Johan knows he can't beat the E-class, C-class or 3-series.

    Wait, how could all 3 of those cars sell in identical numbers???

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    11 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Wait, how could all 3 of those cars sell in identical numbers???

    They don't but they outsell the ATS like 6 to 1.  JDN is going to go where he can compete and that is front drive crossovers.

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