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    Spying: The Next Cadillac SRX or XT5


    • What's In Store For Cadillac's Crossover?

    A couple days back, we brought you spy shots of the Cadillac ATS-V without any camouflage. Now we have gotten word of a new set of spy shots for another Cadillac model in the pipeline.

    Autoblog got their hands on pictures of the next SRX, possibly wearing the XT5 nameplate. We can tell this mule is early in the development process due to all of camouflage on it. There are a few clues we can pull from the pictures such as the model apparently having grille similar to the ATS Coupe, and a sloping rear hatch that is being hidden by a box.

    The XT5 is expected to use a new scalable platform called C1XX (Chi for short). This new platform is expected to underpin a number of crossovers from the next GMC Acadia (which is rumored to shrink), to the next-generation Buick Enclave and Chevrolet Traverse. Power will come from a turbocharged-four and optional V6. Both engines will be paired with a new nine-speed transmission.

    The XT5 is expected to debut either in late 2015 or 2016 as a 2017 model.

    Source: Autoblog

    William Maley is a staff writer for Cheers & Gears. He can be reached at william.maley@cheersandgears.com or you can follow him on twitter at @realmudmonster.

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    Hopefully they will fix the interior space for large people. Right now the current SRX is sure short on interior space for those over 6' tall.

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    The author should note the three vehicles referenced are the same size. Maybe they meant Terrain instead?

     

    No, I meant the Acadia is rumored to go smaller.. I just didn't mention it all. Thanks for pointing that out and keeping me honest.

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    So Cadillac will get another front wheel drive crossover based on the Equinox, you have to figure a smaller than SRX crossover is coming on front drive, so much for their rear wheel drive plans.

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    ALL luxury full-line manufacturers have a mix of RWD & FWD. People don't commonly put drive wheels as a leading consideration; witness the buyers for the 1-series BMW.

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    So Cadillac will get another front wheel drive crossover based on the Equinox, you have to figure a smaller than SRX crossover is coming on front drive, so much for their rear wheel drive plans.

     

    SMK, I am a little disappointed too.  Having said that, FWD crossovers are where the money is.  Remember the RWD 1st-gen SRX?  I do; those did not sell as well as Cadillac or GM hoped.  So they followed the leader and the market: middle-aged women and the Lexus RX.  Now the SRX is 2nd in sales.  The new flagship Caddy and the CTS/ATS will take care of the RWD needs.  Besides, the BMW X3/X5 sell poorly by comparison to the RX/SRX.

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    So Cadillac will get another front wheel drive crossover based on the Equinox, you have to figure a smaller than SRX crossover is coming on front drive, so much for their rear wheel drive plans.

     

     

    No, not based on the Equinox. The new Equinox is not out yet and this is a new platform.  The Equinox may be based on the Cadillac in the future, but not the way around that you're suggesting.

     

    I have no problem with Cadillac getting platforms first and then Chevy gets to pick up a variant on it later.

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    ^ Add to that when a new platform is developed, it's no longer done on a Divisional level, but at Corporate. IE: there is no 'Chevy platform' and as Drew insinuates, it's just as valid to say (not that there's any point to this sort of thing other than trolling) 'The Tahoe is riding on the Escalade platform'.

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    If Chi is scalable to difference sizes then it could replace both the Lambdas and the Thetas.  The long wheel base Chi would be Enclave, the xT5 and other 3 row crossovers.  A short wheelbase Chi could be Equinox, Terrain xT4.  Similar to how they have a small and large Epsilon platform.

     

    But then you have an XT5 SUV that has no relation to a CT5 sedan.  So their pointless naming scheme still doesn't make sense if they do that.  And do they really think they can compete with the Germans with some front wheel drive crossovers.  Lincoln and Acura have gone hard at that segment, and it has kept them alive, but it hasn't made them relevant.  And how do you do a V-series of a front drive crossover? 

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    I mean I guess they did an AMG on the GLA, but that is a compact car, I think the length is less than a Corvette's.    They could do a V-sport with 400 hp but Cadillac won't have a 500+ hp SUV to compete with the Cayenne turbo, the Range Rover Supercharged, the X5 M or the AMG's.  Then you consider a Mercedes-Maybach GL600 is likely coming to do battle with the Bentley SUV, a Maserati SUV is in the works and Rolls and Lamborghini might make an SUV.  The Escalade is still one of the top dog SUVs (at least in terms of price), but there could be a whole slew of $100,000+ SUVs hitting the market that make the Escalade look 2nd tier.   Then do they risk it becoming like the Fleetwood/Deville of the SUV world, riding high for a few generations, until the more powerful, better handling, more luxurious imports came along and stole the ultra rich buyers. 

     

    The Escalade is selling well, and no doubt a profit god for GM, but it is still a fancy Tahoe, and it hasn't really been challenged by anyone else in the past 10 years other than the Navigator which has gotten really dated, and the Mercedes GL which outsold the Escalade most of the past 5 years.  Put 5 or 6 Euro luxury brands in that high end SUV segment and the Escalade is in for a battle.

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    You're really trolling all over the map.  The car we're discussing is the XT5 which is an SRX replacement.  It competes (currently) in the X3/GLK price and size segment. I don't care that it is bigger on the outside than those two, it is the same size inside. ... and more importantly, neither do buyers because the SRX outsells both of those models each month.  For a while there it even outsold both of those models combined while maintaining that same price.

     

    As for the Escalade, I've driven it.  It is fantastic. It is probably the best Cadillac currently made. I've also driven the Range Rover and the MB GL350 diesel.  I would pick the Cadillac over those two each and every day of the week and not feel a second of remorse over that decision.   The Cadillac is simple better overall.   The few I've seen driving around Pittsburgh cause a twinge of jealousy at the driver.... I've never gotten that from the GL.

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    If the CTS becomes CT5, you'd think that the crossover with a 5 in it would cost more than a sedan, so that puts the XT5 at $50,000 base,  If they make an XT5, there is probably going to be at least and XT3 and XT4, maybe even XT2.  Hard to price the XT5 at $35k base like the SRX, how do you get crossovers below that?

     

    Unless the plan is to do an XT3 at $33k to compete with the GLA, MKC and Lexus NX, an XT5 at $40k to compete with the MKC and RX350 and then an XT7 (lambda size) crossover at $55k to fill the gap currently between the SRX and Escalade.  That plan also gives Cadillac 3 front wheel drive crossovers (on platforms no doubt shared with Chevy), when they claimed RWD and independence was their future.  But the XT5 doesn't look big enough to have a 3rd row, and it looks front wheel drive, which probably means Lexus RX and Lincoln MKX pricing.  You can't get RWD money with a FWD car.

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    Sure you can. Cadillac does it with the SRX, Infiniti does it with the QXPathfinder and Audi does it with everything. And then of course the Lexus RX.

    I expect the XT5 to move up in base price a little.

    This is a luxury segment that really doesn't seem to care about FWD/RWD because they are mostly ordered with AWD.

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    Cadillac is going to the customer's home.  They are following the customer.  That is how sales are rung up.  Purists (like myself sometimes) may protest... but at the end of the day, Cadillac needs to be able to sell some vehicles to survive.  They cannot afford to be some abstract entity up high on a mountain.

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    I think this platform (C1xx or Chi)  will have a LWB and SWB version.  The LWB will replace the Buick Enclave and Chevrolet Traverse and maybe a new large Cadillac crossover.  The SWB will replace the GMC Acadia and Cadillac SRX (to be renamed XT5). This C1xx platform will also replace the Epsilon platform for cars.  There is a smaller D1xx platform that will replace Delta and be used for crossovers.  What is unclear now is whether Equinox will go to the SWB C1xx or go to the D1xx platform. If Equinox went to the SBW C1xx, then there would be a new Chevrolet on D1xx.  I guess the GMC Terrain, Buick Envision, and maybe a new small Cadillac would go on D1xx. This is just my understanding which could be quite wrong.

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    Sounds right, but that makes Cadillac's entire crossover/SUV lineup shared on Chevy/Buick platforms and it is the 80s all over again with 3 versions of the same product, and the Buick is a little nicer than a Chevy but with the same engine, the Cadillac is nicer than a Buick and with more power.  Why wouldn't you build crossovers off the Cadillac Alpha and Omega platforms?

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    It may outsell them for now, maybe the FWD crossovers always will, but Lexus, Lincoln, Acura and Cadillac have to sell a mid-size vehicle at the price BMW and Mercedes sell compacts.  The Lexus ES350 outsells the CTS, does that mean the CTS should move to FWD and have a price cut to $37,000 because that is where the crowd goes?  The real problem the brands like Acura and Lincoln and to a lesser degree Cadillac and Infiniti have, is that too much of the product is too similar to the mass market vehicle and the brand image gets hurt.  Over time that 2nd tier image sticks and it gets harder and harder to compete.  It also creates a culture of build what is "good enough" instead of build the best, and there are too many brands and too much competition to just build "good enough" products.

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    No. For the 99th time. The SRX is the same size interior as the GLK and X3. Buyers of this segment seem to prefer the FWD models

    But the RX and MKX are not as small as a GLK or X3, that is why Lincoln and Lexus both put an SUV below that.  And what does it say about Cadillac that their 190 inch long SUV has the interior space of a 178 inch long German SUV.  That is poor packaging.

     

    Buyers of $30-40,000 crossovers prefer FWD because they don't know any better.  I'd suggest that the XT5 should be more of a $50-70,000 crossover with a 550 hp V-series.  Then a $35-50,000 XT3 can be sold below it with a 420 hp V-series model.  Although Mercedes is making a 470 hp GLK, and they'll have a plug in hybrid that outdoes the RX400h in efficiency.  Give it some time and the Germans will turn that crossover segment to their favor.   In the 1980s and 90s Cadillac pushed front wheel drive because that was where the volume was, then the Germans turned luxury to rear wheel drive and took all the volume and profit, leaving Cadillac, Lincoln and Acura in the dust.  Cadillac has been trying since 2003 to catch up.  So are they going to make the same mistake on crossovers?

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    The XT5 couldn't charge that price unless it moves up on interior room. That is X5 territory.

    99.99999999% of buyers don't care about "packaging" as long as the vehicle meets their needs. Even enthusiasts don't care.  You are the only one on a car enthusiast forum who cares that the SRX is bigger on the outside than its competition.

     

    The MKC is more of a tweener.  It feels only marginally bigger inside than my Encore (and most of that room is in the trunk).

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    No. For the 99th time. The SRX is the same size interior as the GLK and X3. Buyers of this segment seem to prefer the FWD models

    But the RX and MKX are not as small as a GLK or X3, that is why Lincoln and Lexus both put an SUV below that.  And what does it say about Cadillac that their 190 inch long SUV has the interior space of a 178 inch long German SUV.  That is poor packaging.

     

     

    No, the reason the NX and MKC crossover exist are due to the likes of the X1 and GLA

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    No. For the 99th time. The SRX is the same size interior as the GLK and X3. Buyers of this segment seem to prefer the FWD models

    But the RX and MKX are not as small as a GLK or X3, that is why Lincoln and Lexus both put an SUV below that.  And what does it say about Cadillac that their 190 inch long SUV has the interior space of a 178 inch long German SUV.  That is poor packaging.

     

    Buyers of $30-40,000 crossovers prefer FWD because they don't know any better.  I'd suggest that the XT5 should be more of a $50-70,000 crossover with a 550 hp V-series.  Then a $35-50,000 XT3 can be sold below it with a 420 hp V-series model.  Although Mercedes is making a 470 hp GLK, and they'll have a plug in hybrid that outdoes the RX400h in efficiency.  Give it some time and the Germans will turn that crossover segment to their favor.   In the 1980s and 90s Cadillac pushed front wheel drive because that was where the volume was, then the Germans turned luxury to rear wheel drive and took all the volume and profit, leaving Cadillac, Lincoln and Acura in the dust.  Cadillac has been trying since 2003 to catch up.  So are they going to make the same mistake on crossovers?

     

    So then since you cannot win  an argument on your German love of MB / BMW on back seat space since Cadillac has superior rear seat space in comparison to the German version you move to now attacking the added length of the SRX so that the extra protection is bad since your German version do not have it!

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    I don't really care about back seat space, that was never a concern of mine.  I just wonder why the SRX with 190 inch overall length, which is bigger than a Lexus RX350, bigger than a Lincoln MKX, has interior space like a 179 inch long GLK or Lincoln MKC.   The SRX doesn't even compete with the Germans, it competes with Lincoln and Lexus because mid-size fwd crossovers at $40k are a hot item.  If you want a mid-sze German SUV you haveto spend $60k once the options are on there, and most crossover buyers are clueless as to RWD vs FWD or 8-speed vs 6 speed, or what BMW's regen braking does or what Mercedes Airmatic does, etc.  And even if they understood it, they wouldn't pay extra to get it.

     

    But since Cadillac is revamping their crossover lineup and starting new, I question why an XT5 on a FWD platform shared with Buick/Chevy/GMC, because I'd assume they will be charging Lexus RX money at $40k, when Cadillac's CT5 sedan might be $50k.  Seems odd, and XT5 and CT5 would have no relation at all.  The whole plan doesn't make sense.

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      Connectivity
      The 2018 Equinox offers purposeful technology that helps keep passengers safe, comfortable and connected.
      Chevrolet’s latest connectivity technologies are front and center, including 7- and 8-inch-diagonal MyLink infotainment systems designed to support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as an available OnStar 4G LTE Wi-Fi hotspot. (Apple CarPlay and Android Auto compatibility is subject to their terms, privacy statements and data plan rates, as well as a compatible smartphone.)
      Safety
      The Equinox offers a comprehensive suite of available active safety technologies and adaptive crash-avoidance features that provide ease of use and peace of mind on the road.
      Teen Driver is also offered, allowing parents to set controls and review an in-vehicle report card in order to encourage safer driving habits, even when they are not in the vehicle.  
      Available advanced active safety features to enhance driver awareness on the road include radar- and camera-based adaptive technologies that can provide alerts to potential crash threats, allowing the driver to react and make changes to avoid them, including:
      New Safety Alert Seat New Surround Vision New Forward Collision Alert with Following Distance Indicator New Low-Speed Forward Automatic Braking New Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning New Rear Seat Reminder Lane Change Alert with Side Blind Zone Alert  Rear Cross Traffic Alert Turbocharged engines and more 
      A range of three turbocharged engines — including the compact SUV segment’s first turbo-diesel in North America — provides customers more choices when it comes to performance, efficiency and capability in the all-new 2018 Chevrolet Equinox.
      They include a 1.5L turbo, a 2.0L turbo — matched with GM’s new nine-speed automatic transmission — and a 1.6L turbo-diesel.
      “With three choices, customers can select an engine that offers more of the attributes that are important to them: efficiency, performance and capability,” said Dan Nicholson, vice president, Global Propulsion Systems. “The advantage for each is the power of a larger engine and the efficiency of a smaller engine.”
      The new Equinox is the first Chevrolet model in North America to use an all-turbocharged, multi-engine powertrain lineup. That includes the expected segment-exclusive 1.6L turbo-diesel that will offer customers excellent efficiency and capability.
      “It is an all-new SUV from the ground up and one that takes on the industry’s biggest competitors with a stronger architecture, greater efficiency and more technology,” said Rick Spina, executive chief engineer. “And it looks great doing it.”
      Additional vehicle highlights:
      Approximately 400 pounds (180 kg) lighter than the current model — a 10 percent weight reduction Switchable AWD system that enhances efficiency by disconnecting from the rear axle when not needed  Unique kneeling rear seat that enables a flat rear load floor and up to 63.5 cubic feet (1,798 liters) of maximum cargo space Equinox sales have reached more than 2 million since its launch and it is Chevrolet’s second-best retail selling vehicle, after the Silverado.
      The 2018 Equinox goes on sale in the first quarter of 2017 in North America. It rolls out to approximately 115 additional global markets later in the year.
      2018 CHEVROLET EQUINOX PRELIMINARY SPECIFICATIONS 
      (NORTH AMERICA)
      Overview

      Models: 2018 Chevrolet Equinox
      Body style / driveline:
      five-passenger, four-door SUV, front-engine, front- or all-wheel drive
      EPA vehicle class:
      compact SUV
      Powertrains

      Engine / Type: 1.5L turbo DOHC DI
      2.0L turbo DOHC DI
      1.6L turbo-diesel
      Block material:
      cast aluminum
      cast aluminum
      cast aluminum
      Cylinder head material:
      cast aluminum
      cast aluminum
      cast aluminum
      Fuel delivery:
      direct injection
      direct injection
      direct injection
      Horsepower (hp / kW):
      170 / 127 (GM-estimated)
      252 / 188 (GM-estimated)
      136 / 101 (GM-estimated)
      Torque (lb.-ft. / Nm):
      203 / 275 (GM-estimated)
      260 / 353 (GM-estimated)
      236 / 320 (GM-estimated)
      GM-est. fuel economy:
      31 hwy
      28 hwy
      40 hwy
      Transmission:
      Hydra-Matic 6T40 six-speed automatic
      Hydra-Matic 9T50 nine-speed automatic
      Hydra-Matic 6T45 six-speed automatic
      Chassis / Suspension

      Suspension (front): MacPherson strut with side-loaded modules, specifically tuned coil springs, direct-acting stabilizer bar
      Suspension (rear): 
      4 Link Independent Rear Suspension
      Steering type:
      Dual Rack and Pinion Electric Power Steering
      Turning circle (ft / m):
      37.4 / 11.4 (17-inch wheels)
      Brakes & Wheels

      Brake type: four-wheel disc with ABS and ESC; Duralife rotors and low-drag calipers (US)
      Wheel size and type:
      17-, 18- and 19-inch aluminum
      Exterior Dimensions

      Wheelbase (in / mm): 107.3 / 2725
      Overall length (in / mm):
      183.1 / 4652
      Overall width (in / mm):
      72.6 / 1843
      Overall height (in / mm):
      65.4 / 1661
      Track (in / mm):
      front: 62.2 / 1580
      rear: 62.2 / 1581
      Interior Dimensions

      Seating capacity: 2 / 3
      Headroom (in / mm):
      Front - 40.0/1015 (w/o SR), 38.2/970 (w/ Sunroof)
      Rear - 38.5/977 (w/o SR), 36.9/936 (w/ Sunroof)
      Legroom (in / mm):
      40.9 / 1040 (front)
      39.7 / 1008 (rear)
      Shoulder room (in / mm):
      57.2 / 1452 (front)
      55.5 / 1410 (rear)
      Hip room (in / mm):
      54.2 / 1377 (front)
      51.7 / 1314 (rear)
      Weights & Capacities

      Base curb weight (lb / kg): 3327 / 1509 (1.5L w/ FWD)
      Fuel capacity (gal / L):
      14.7 / 55 (FWD)
      TBD (AWD)
      15.5 / 58 (1.6L diesel)
      Max cargo room (cu ft / L):
      29.9 / 846 (behind rear seat)
      63.5 / 1798 (rear seat folded)
      Max trailering (lb / kg):
      3500 / 1585 (2.0L turbo)
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