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    Spying: Looking Inside the Chevrolet Bolt


    • So What Does Chevrolet Bolt Look Inside?

    Chevrolet is hard at work on getting the Bolt EV from the concept we first saw at the Detroit Auto Show to go into production for 2017. Yesterday saw the first spy shots of the Bolt's interior come into focus.

     

    The most noticeable feature is a large LCD screen which appears to be running a new version of Chevrolet's MyLink infotainment system. Controls for audio and HVAC are right underneath the screen. There's also another LCD in the gauge cluster which appears to have a similar layout as the Volt.

     

    Source: Autoblog

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    Very interesting seeing this video and reading the comments. Glad to see that Chevy is keeping the interest alive by showing the work being done on the auto and it being out and driven.

     

    I will have to say that I like the dash very much in this EV.

     

    Anyone know what kind of Torque and HP figures GM is thinking of for the BOLT?

     

    I wonder how close it will be to the VOLT specs, 

    • Electric unit produces up to 149 hp and 273 lb-ft of torque
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    Given the current state of the art for batteries and range, I'd say scaling up to that size right now wouldn't be cost or range-effective. Frankly, I'm impressed at some of the numbers that are being tossed around for something this size.

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    Given the current state of the art for batteries and range, I'd say scaling up to that size right now wouldn't be cost or range-effective. Frankly, I'm impressed at some of the numbers that are being tossed around for something this size.

    I disagree, there are plenty of batteries now with high enough amps to support longer range and I see no reason why a suburban could not have a 400-500 mile range as you have all the space on both sides of the drive line and behind the rear wheels so you can have enough battery for a long distance drive plus cost is always coming down on the auto's.

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    I will like to see a Chevy Trax kinda vehicle with this technology next from Chevrolet/GM

    Then gradually step up to a larger CUV/SUV to Equinox levels...because, as it seems, CUVs/SUVs are the next bread and butter vehicles.

     

    The Tesla Model X...Elon, thinks that this is the next step for electrics, heck, even BMW thinks that also with the i3, so I think Chevy's/GM's gamble on a CUV/SUV might not be that far fetched.

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    Given the current state of the art for batteries and range, I'd say scaling up to that size right now wouldn't be cost or range-effective. Frankly, I'm impressed at some of the numbers that are being tossed around for something this size.

    I disagree, there are plenty of batteries now with high enough amps to support longer range and I see no reason why a suburban could not have a 400-500 mile range as you have all the space on both sides of the drive line and behind the rear wheels so you can have enough battery for a long distance drive plus cost is always coming down on the auto's.

    And that's fine. But it ain't cheap (yet).

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    You could scale this up into a Cadillac like the CT6 as we will soon see. Also a cheaper version in the Malibu but that is where you really have to be careful. A CT6 has more meat on the bone profit wise to work and the Malibu has only so much. To install much more there the price can get so high no one will buy it pretty fast.

    We will see a decent hybrid system in the new BU that will work well but help keep the price to where someone would still buy it.

     

    That is why a Bolt is going to be the toughest car in the world to build. Making a car like this that people would want to buy and yet still the average owner will buyer will pay for. This is why Elon has still not tackled the Tesla 3 yet.

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    You could scale this up into a Cadillac like the CT6 as we will soon see. Also a cheaper version in the Malibu but that is where you really have to be careful. A CT6 has more meat on the bone profit wise to work and the Malibu has only so much. To install much more there the price can get so high no one will buy it pretty fast.

    We will see a decent hybrid system in the new BU that will work well but help keep the price to where someone would still buy it.

     

    That is why a Bolt is going to be the toughest car in the world to build. Making a car like this that people would want to buy and yet still the average owner will buyer will pay for. This is why Elon has still not tackled the Tesla 3 yet.

    GM will have a home run once they get the BOLT right and into production. My wife has already told me she wants the Bolt. I have talked with others who want it also. I think we will see this become a big hit yet.

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    You could scale this up into a Cadillac like the CT6 as we will soon see. Also a cheaper version in the Malibu but that is where you really have to be careful. A CT6 has more meat on the bone profit wise to work and the Malibu has only so much. To install much more there the price can get so high no one will buy it pretty fast.

    We will see a decent hybrid system in the new BU that will work well but help keep the price to where someone would still buy it.

     

    That is why a Bolt is going to be the toughest car in the world to build. Making a car like this that people would want to buy and yet still the average owner will buyer will pay for. This is why Elon has still not tackled the Tesla 3 yet.

    GM will have a home run once they get the BOLT right and into production. My wife has already told me she wants the Bolt. I have talked with others who want it also. I think we will see this become a big hit yet.

    I hope you are right. But right now a good solid double would be great for a EV. This is not a car that is going to bump the Cruze out of the top place at Chevy in sales anytime soon. This is a slow growth segment but it needs to be a well done car and one that will grow not only the model over time but the future of other models.

    The volume increase this car can lead to will help bring the needed changes for changed minds in the public as well as more chargers and more investment for even better batteries.

    The real hang up with the EV including the Tesla is the charging times. Even on a Supercharger you can still not match the time it takes to refuel a gas car. This is a life style charger for many owners as they will never wait 45 mins for a part charge or 12 hours for a full charge. Also the damage the fast charge does to the battery is not good either.

    But there is a growing segment interested and this car will be a key building block to increase sales, interest and infrastructure.

    While the Tesla proved there was a market for the expensive electric car GM will prove you can build one cheaper and still make a buck on it. While this will not be GM's highest volume or profit car it will prove to be a car that will grow the EV market much like the Prius did the Hybrid.

    Give me a good solid double or triple here and we will be sitting pretty. GM needs to hit a home run in the Malibu as it will bring in the money to help expand these other programs. If GM can turn 300,000 Malibu's and 300,000 Cruze a year this is where the money will come from to advance the EV even more.

    The Bolt will be a very big game changer but it is not going to win the game by itself. This is just part of the game not the winning run. This segment is too big for one car to carry the entire load.

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    Are my eyes that bad?  I did not catch a glimpse of the Bolt interior in that video... all I see is a kid with a laptop in there, very briefly.

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    Are my eyes that bad?  I did not catch a glimpse of the Bolt interior in that video... all I see is a kid with a laptop in there, very briefly.

     

    It wasn't in the video, look at the Autoblog link that William posted.

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    Any idea of what the big red button is under the center dash screen? I am thinking a temporary disconnect in case of electrical fire or something, Thoughts?

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    You could scale this up into a Cadillac like the CT6 as we will soon see. Also a cheaper version in the Malibu but that is where you really have to be careful. A CT6 has more meat on the bone profit wise to work and the Malibu has only so much. To install much more there the price can get so high no one will buy it pretty fast.

    We will see a decent hybrid system in the new BU that will work well but help keep the price to where someone would still buy it.

     

    That is why a Bolt is going to be the toughest car in the world to build. Making a car like this that people would want to buy and yet still the average owner will buyer will pay for. This is why Elon has still not tackled the Tesla 3 yet.

    GM will have a home run once they get the BOLT right and into production. My wife has already told me she wants the Bolt. I have talked with others who want it also. I think we will see this become a big hit yet.

     

    I hope you are right. But right now a good solid double would be great for a EV. This is not a car that is going to bump the Cruze out of the top place at Chevy in sales anytime soon. This is a slow growth segment but it needs to be a well done car and one that will grow not only the model over time but the future of other models.

    The volume increase this car can lead to will help bring the needed changes for changed minds in the public as well as more chargers and more investment for even better batteries.

    The real hang up with the EV including the Tesla is the charging times. Even on a Supercharger you can still not match the time it takes to refuel a gas car. This is a life style charger for many owners as they will never wait 45 mins for a part charge or 12 hours for a full charge. Also the damage the fast charge does to the battery is not good either.

    But there is a growing segment interested and this car will be a key building block to increase sales, interest and infrastructure.

    While the Tesla proved there was a market for the expensive electric car GM will prove you can build one cheaper and still make a buck on it. While this will not be GM's highest volume or profit car it will prove to be a car that will grow the EV market much like the Prius did the Hybrid.

    Give me a good solid double or triple here and we will be sitting pretty. GM needs to hit a home run in the Malibu as it will bring in the money to help expand these other programs. If GM can turn 300,000 Malibu's and 300,000 Cruze a year this is where the money will come from to advance the EV even more.

    The Bolt will be a very big game changer but it is not going to win the game by itself. This is just part of the game not the winning run. This segment is too big for one car to carry the entire load.

     

    I agree that this will not win the war nor will it be the all things to everyone, but I do believe that this will be what Prius was to Toyota for GM. I think people will look to change habits and while yes now the bulk of people will not go for 30 min, 4hrs, 8hrs or 12hr charge times, there is a growing group of people that like electronic devices, a habit of plugging in at night and letting the auto charge over night and having it all day running will work. The fact that there is also fast chargers that can charge 100 miles in 30 min, means we will see chargers that will recharge this car fully in 1hr. Then time and advances will move to getting this down even more.

     

    The Bolt will address range anxiety for people and for many they will also gain access to those coveted EV parking spots. So this will entice a much larger crowd to go EV I believe.

     

    The benefit of Tesla is that they have pushed and 1/3 of their customers are now purchasing said auto's with the 80 amp charging solution so they can fully recharge in 1hr. I have seen many 240V 30 amp solutions that would cover most peoples need to recharge quickly for running around.

     

    My hope is that Chevy does the Bolt right by taking the lessons learned from Tesla and incorporate them into the BOLT.

     

    80amp recharging option.

    Standard 30 Amp 240V charging compared to current 3.3 or 6.6 amp charging today.

    Use a solar roof panel to allow for added charging or for using AC, Stereo, etc and settings run by your smartphone.

     

    I am excited by this.

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    Here is the issue. We are making batteries smaller and more powerful but charging times remain pretty constant. Yes you can partial or fast charge but this leaves you short of a full load and even then the fast charge degrades a batter even if it is a power tool.

    People today who are on the go hate to stop for gas for 8 min let alone 45 min for a partial charge. Same with the Hydrogen cell cars as they take about 30 mins. to refuel.

    Solar and other means may be a small boost but cars like this can not get much out of such small panels.

    At this point anything over a the time of a simple gas fill is too long for most buyers plain and simple. Habits and life styles are hard to change. I have to make one stop driving to Charlotte and to be honest if I did not have to piss and get fuel I would drive on. That 10 Min is more than I want to waste as that is more than 10 miles I would be down the road. Also there is no place on 77 that I would want to spend 1 or more hours.

    As a commuter to work or the store these cars will really start to pick up. As a companion car they will expand but for the person with one car that drives a lot they will not do much for them.

    Also the market needs slow growth as if everyone pick up on these cars at once it would create issues with charging stations or the lack of. We have already seen abuses with the Tesla ones with a limited market. How many people will park at one and just leave the car there longer than needed while others wait. Also the power grid in many areas can be taxed at time just with hot weather what would they do with a large influx of cars when people refuse to charge at night like they hope. Not to mention the president has taken so many coal power plants out of the future with few being built to replace them.

    The Bolt will be a good solid building block moving the segment forward and put the car in to hands that could not even participate before. If they can do what the Prius has done in the EV segment it has done it's job well. Also the PR fall out for GM should help the rest of the cars and Hybrids moving forward.

    The idea some have of no gas engines in 20 years will be disappointed as if we are still here gas engines will still be here in some form. They will be smaller and more efficient but they will still be here.

    The key is now the investments being made where we had none to very little before.

    Also one wild card is the Mars Mission. I expect we will be moving forward on this in the near future and we will see a tech boom like we did in the 70's. This will drive for more break through in our every day life and this will help much in the area of energy and energy management. The worst thing Obama did was defund NASA. That is one area of stimulus that does more than anything.

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    I like the interior, looks pretty techy, as it should for an EV.

     

    Is that a drive by wire shifter I see? 

     

    Most shifters are "drive by wire" these days..... even the ones the look and feel like an old-school shifter. 

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    As hyper alludes to. Electric infrastructure being not much and charge times being an issue. All electrics being majority still long ways off. HOWEVER the tech crowd rightfully is enamored and gM should be the automaker to claim making electrics mainstream. Not tesla. Gm won't make a full court press on pure electrics though because they are too cheap too. Not only that, their investment may get leapfrogged be other technologies related to what happens when the infrastructure stRts to develop. Why should gn put so much in now? Pure electrics will only become viable when the same gas stations you stop at on road trips now have 5 minute chargers as well. This will require a complete dismantling of our grid and distribution somehow someday. In the meantime, the volt is a pretty damn good way to get electric and still go far. Where GM is faulty here is not making a voltec malibu, Equinox, i.e voltecs for its mainstream lineups. Plug ins. Not just hybrids.

    And with 200 mile plug in range. I think in 2-3 years the 50 mile range will look like a joke. All for 30 grand or not much over. Sorry but to lead means to conquer hard tasks. An Equinox with a volt powertrain and 200 mile plug in range would be lights out.

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    All the mfrs will eventually have to get together to standArdize plug in only electric infrastructure and electrical architecture before it takes off but gm could choose to lead in this area. It will take a world effort however. Many countries. Many automakers.

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    Here is the issue. We are making batteries smaller and more powerful but charging times remain pretty constant. Yes you can partial or fast charge but this leaves you short of a full load and even then the fast charge degrades a batter even if it is a power tool.People today who are on the go hate to stop for gas for 8 min let alone 45 min for a partial charge. Same with the Hydrogen cell cars as they take about 30 mins. to refuel.Solar and other means may be a small boost but cars like this can not get much out of such small panels.At this point anything over a the time of a simple gas fill is too long for most buyers plain and simple. Habits and life styles are hard to change. I have to make one stop driving to Charlotte and to be honest if I did not have to piss and get fuel I would drive on. That 10 Min is more than I want to waste as that is more than 10 miles I would be down the road. Also there is no place on 77 that I would want to spend 1 or more hours.As a commuter to work or the store these cars will really start to pick up. As a companion car they will expand but for the person with one car that drives a lot they will not do much for them.Also the market needs slow growth as if everyone pick up on these cars at once it would create issues with charging stations or the lack of. We have already seen abuses with the Tesla ones with a limited market. How many people will park at one and just leave the car there longer than needed while others wait. Also the power grid in many areas can be taxed at time just with hot weather what would they do with a large influx of cars when people refuse to charge at night like they hope. Not to mention the president has taken so many coal power plants out of the future with few being built to replace them.The Bolt will be a good solid building block moving the segment forward and put the car in to hands that could not even participate before. If they can do what the Prius has done in the EV segment it has done it's job well. Also the PR fall out for GM should help the rest of the cars and Hybrids moving forward.The idea some have of no gas engines in 20 years will be disappointed as if we are still here gas engines will still be here in some form. They will be smaller and more efficient but they will still be here.The key is now the investments being made where we had none to very little before.Also one wild card is the Mars Mission. I expect we will be moving forward on this in the near future and we will see a tech boom like we did in the 70's. This will drive for more break through in our every day life and this will help much in the area of energy and energy management. The worst thing Obama did was defund NASA. That is one area of stimulus that does more than anything.

    Yes bailing on NASA was complete stupid We still need to lead in space ventures.

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    All the mfrs will eventually have to get together to standArdize plug in only electric infrastructure and electrical architecture before it takes off but gm could choose to lead in this area. It will take a world effort however. Many countries. Many automakers.

    This is the problem. They should get together but as of now they are just in a pissing match to promote their system as the leader. We have seen it before with Electrical plugs globally where it is still unresolved but we have also seen it in thing like Video that had the Beta/VHS war that was resolved and now means little.

    What I think needs to be done is all MFG need to hold a conference and see if they can come to SAE standards with the electric car but with so much innovation going on it is hard to do this at this time. What we have now can be completely changed in 5-10 years.

    Just look at Cell Phones and how things have changed there. I see this also happening in the EV field.

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    https://history.gmheritagecenter.com/wiki/index.php/1966_Electrovair_II_Concept

    SUCH great strides in electric car range since then!  Oh why have I not been on board before now?  :rolleyes:  :)

    Yes like Drew pointed out investments did not come till interest started to rise. Even before the Prius the EV1 drew a lot of attention but many failed to understand this was not a production car and never was intended to be production. It at best was like the old Chrysler Turbine and was more a demonstrator for the public for GM to learn from.

    Today we have many factors at play today.

    Emissions and stiffer regulations

    Environmental Consumers

    Higher and higher CAFE

    The increase of investment for Hybrids that can be carried over to the EV cars

    Increased improvement in smaller and better batteries that not only can be used here but also in cell phones and lap tops or any other electronic device.

    The fact is time was right to invest here as the things we have needed are now here. This has simulated investment as the one who comes up with a battery that is faster charging and longer lasting stands to make a lot of money. We can not say it can not be done as they used to say that about many things like going to the Moon or Transplanting a Heart.

    Automakers hope to help off set some of their emissions and CAFE here so it is in their best interest to invest. Also companies like GM if they can lead the pack can also help set the standard of where this goes vs. being forced into using someone else's system that may compromise what they have already invested in.

    The one reason the Volt has so many people against it on the web was many MFG could not afford to let it be a run away hit. Many already have billions invested and they fear a new model like the Volt could change the dynamic of the market that could render much of what they have invested useless.

    They Hybrid and EV segment may not sell a lot of cars but the companies here are more competitive than ever. They want to win this game and they will continue to invest and try to get that breakthrough that will put them on top.

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      “The new Camaro ZL1 1LE offers the supreme track experience,” said Mark Dickens, executive director, Chevrolet Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports Engineering. “It’s the pinnacle of Camaro performance and advances the 1LE’s nearly 30-year legacy of uncompromising, track-tailored capability.”
      The power behind the ZL1 1LE is the 650-horsepower, supercharged LT4 engine backed by a six-speed manual transmission featuring Active Rev Match. Brembo brakes, including red calipers with the 1LE logo, are also included. Additional standard features include dual-zone automatic climate control, Bose premium audio system, heated/ventilated front seats and heated steering wheel.
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      With the clock winding down on production of the Holden Commodore, Chevrolet dealers are snapping the remaining lot of SS models being exported to the U.S. Wheels has learned from Chevrolet that the extra 1,000 SS models Holden was planning to build for the U.S. market have been snapped up.
      “All US dealer orders are in for the allocated production of the 2017 Chevrolet SS. This includes any additional units that were confirmed for production last year,” said Chevrolet.
      Originally, Holden was planning on building 2,000 SS for the U.S. However, the large demand by dealers for the last SS models caused Holden to add an additional 1,000 models for export.
      Source: Wheels

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    • By William Maley
      With the clock winding down on production of the Holden Commodore, Chevrolet dealers are snapping the remaining lot of SS models being exported to the U.S. Wheels has learned from Chevrolet that the extra 1,000 SS models Holden was planning to build for the U.S. market have been snapped up.
      “All US dealer orders are in for the allocated production of the 2017 Chevrolet SS. This includes any additional units that were confirmed for production last year,” said Chevrolet.
      Originally, Holden was planning on building 2,000 SS for the U.S. However, the large demand by dealers for the last SS models caused Holden to add an additional 1,000 models for export.
      Source: Wheels
    • By William Maley
      We have been wondering what the next-generation Buick Enclave would look like and now we have a general idea. Automotive News got their hands on some new spy shots showing an Enclave test mule sitting at a gas station. It appears Buick has made the Enclave less bulbous than the current model. The front end features Buick's new waterfall grille that debuted on the LaCrosse and a set of slim headlights. For the back, there's a new set of taillights and dual-exhaust system.
      If the Chevrolet Traverse is anything to go by, the Enclave will get the current 3.6L V6 producing 305 horsepower hooked up to a nine-speed automatic. There is the possibility of a 2.0L turbo-four with 255 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque.
      The next-generation Buick Enclave is expected to debut at the New York Auto Show.
      Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)
      Pic Credit: William Maley for Cheers & Gears

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