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    Rumorpile: Won't Be Long Till We See the Next F-150

      What's in store for Ford's truck and utility lineup

    Off-Road.com has obtained a product timeline that reveals Ford's launches for the upcoming year and the big news is that a new F-150 appears to be around the corner.

    The timeline reveals that the next-generation Ford Explorer will be launched first, most likely at Detroit. We have reported that the new model would be using a new modular rear-wheel drive platform. Next up is the new F-150. We don't know what Ford has in store aside from a hybrid powertrain. But considering both General Motors and Ram introducing redesigned trucks this year, we're expecting Ford to fight back hard.

    Last, but not least is the Bronco. Off-Road speculates this model will appear in 2020 as a 2021 model year vehicle.

    Source: Off-Road.com

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    I suspect GM, Ford, RAM will have to change out every 3-5 years now for competition and to keep it fresh as 7-10 years is stale and will not be accepted any longer.

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    I bet the 2.3 Ecoboost is coming as the base engine.  I suspect the 2.7 and 3.5 V6's will carry over, I could see them dropping the V8 because the Navigator V6 is more powerful than the 5.0 V8.  I would be shocked if there isn't some electrification going on also.

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    The F-150 is now the oldest of the big-3 + Nissan, but it certainly doesn't feel like it. they could probably get away with selling the current version a few more years.... especially while GM product package planners have their heads up their asses.  RAM is the one they need to watch out for. 

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    It will be interesting to see where they go with the next F150 styling wise..the '18 MCE improved the front over the '15, but it's still a bit overwrought..I wonder if they will try and out ugly Chevy....

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    1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

    It will be interesting to see where they go with the next F150 styling wise..the '18 MCE improved the front over the '15, but it's still a bit overwrought..I wonder if they will try and out ugly Chevy....

    The Chevy only really looks great in High Country trim.  I love the Denali, but aside from that, the GMCs are meh. RAM is conservative and handsome. F-150 is the standard though. 

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    The Ram just won a Car and Driver comparison between the 3 by a wide margin.  Seems like Ram has their act in order, plus an inline six on the way.

    Ford should bring back the F150 Lightning with a Shelby GT500 engine in there.  Or even better a GT350 engine in the Lightning and GT500 motor in a Lightning SVT.

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    1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The Chevy only really looks great in High Country trim.  I love the Denali, but aside from that, the GMCs are meh. RAM is conservative and handsome. F-150 is the standard though. 

    The F150 I actually really like...but I like the Super Duty trucks even more.

    32 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The Ram just won a Car and Driver comparison between the 3 by a wide margin.  Seems like Ram has their act in order, plus an inline six on the way.

    Ford should bring back the F150 Lightning with a Shelby GT500 engine in there.  Or even better a GT350 engine in the Lightning and GT500 motor in a Lightning SVT.

    Hell yes...I like the way you think here.

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    3 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    Maybe it will go back to steel

    with your luck, not only it will continue to have aluminium, but it might gain electric motorbility.

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    1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

    with your luck, not only it will continue to have aluminium, but it might gain electric motorbility.

    That would be a bad move

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    1999-Ford-SVT-F-150-Lightning-neg-3-AR-2

    I would keep the simple look with the body kit, lowered suspension.  But I would probably ditch the step side for a regular bed, and I would offer it in extended cab only.  I think 2 seater anything is a hard sell and a 4 door would be too big and defeat the purpose of being a sport truck.  

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    This generation F150 and the previous have a very similar shape in general. I get it, they’re trucks but the way that they have straight body panels, few curves, headlights pushed all the way to the corners, the dive in the belt line...it almost has a relaxing continuity. I think the next F150 will build on that theme of recycling aluminum and design themes. 

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    Ford ace in the hole is variation; keeping the regular cab is a cornerstone, esp as other brands forsake it. If Ford discontinues multiple car lines, I expect the truck lines to widen in choice.

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    5 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Ford ace in the hole is variation; keeping the regular cab is a cornerstone, esp as other brands forsake it. If Ford discontinues multiple car lines, I expect the truck lines to widen in choice.

    One can only hope.  Also I much prefer a suicide door set-up on extended cabs, v. what GM and Dodge have done with the tiny front-hinged doors.

     

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    21 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The Chevy only really looks great in High Country trim.  I love the Denali, but aside from that, the GMCs are meh. RAM is conservative and handsome. F-150 is the standard though. 

    We are completely opposite here.. The GMC's look so much better than the Silverados. 

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    1 minute ago, ccap41 said:

    We are completely opposite here.. The GMC's look so much better than the Silverados. 

    The fender and grille shapes are simpler on the GMCs--they don't have all that front corner weirdness going on that the Chevys have...wonder how the HD GMCs will look. 

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    10 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    We are completely opposite here.. The GMC's look so much better than the Silverados. 

    No, we agree. I don't really like the Chevys at all.  High-Country trim gets a pass.  The GMCs aren't as bad as the Chevys, but I like the '17s more than the '19s.

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    8 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    No, we agree. I don't really like the Chevys at all.  High-Country trim gets a pass.  The GMCs aren't as bad as the Chevys, but I like the '17s more than the '19s.

    And here, out of character, I really like Ford....all of the F series look really good IMHO.

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    5 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    And here, out of character, I really like Ford....all of the F series look really good IMHO.

    Hahaha I think the '18 refresh for the Ford looks worse than the '15-'17's. I think it is 100% the color of the grills most of the time. They're either chrome(no thanks) or a weird silver that doesn't match anything..

    The Sport grille would be next as it's dark but most of them just look just a tad off to me. Even the body colored ones, which I usually like the most, look weird. 

    I think this is the only one that legitimately looks great to me.

    F150.jpg

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    The light clusters are just way too large on any of the Fords, with the Super Duty being the worst. 

     

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    35 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    No, we agree. I don't really like the Chevys at all.  High-Country trim gets a pass.  The GMCs aren't as bad as the Chevys, but I like the '17s more than the '19s.

    Ohhhhh I gotcha I gotcha. I misread your first comment. 

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    14 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Hahaha I think the '18 refresh for the Ford looks worse than the '15-'17's. I think it is 100% the color of the grills most of the time. They're either chrome(no thanks) or a weird silver that doesn't match anything..

    The Sport grille would be next as it's dark but most of them just look just a tad off to me. Even the body colored ones, which I usually like the most, look weird. 

    I think this is the only one that legitimately looks great to me.

    F150.jpg

    I am not expecting a pickup truck to look good like 69 GTO Convertible good...just rugged and stylish. I think the Ford F series lineup does this in spades.

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    1 hour ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    Need it soon.. Ford just recalled almost 900K FSeries  Ford Recall

    Hopefully they can improve w/ the next gen and get the recall numbers over a million!

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      Mother’s Day weekend was a busy one. The kids had planned out the whole Sunday for the wife and I had planned the day before to build an area with a raised garden bed for the wife. The raised bed material was bought, the area mapped out and the plan to get up early and rent a truck to pick up cedar chips and black gold compost soil was scheduled.
      Saturday morning went as I expected, up early, quick breakfast and off to be the first in line at the U-Haul rental place. Figured rather than $75 per delivery, two types of material meant $150, why not spend $19.95 for a single day rental of the truck, pick up the material myself and pocket $130 or so.
      U-Haul actually has it to mileage and other fees that made the single days truck rental $55 and change, so not as big as I expected but still roughly a $95 savings.

      Surprise was that the truck I got was a new 2019 F150 with V8 that only had 300 miles on the odometer. Having not been in a new Ford pickup in the last couple years, I was excited to see how it drove, what the fit n finish was like and over all materials.
      U-Haul trucks are your base trucks with rubberized floors, dash is all hard plastics yet they still had backup camera and the V8 engine. As such the truck had no problem even loaded down with dirt or the cedar chips moving. Over all ride was decent and I actually really loved the seats as they were very supportive to my large size and yet comfy driving from freeway to local roads, never tiring to the body. Radio was a basic am/fm with a base pair of stereo speakers. Decent and functional.

      Dash being a base truck was hard plastic, as we have seen in many videos about even top of the line Luxury auto’s, the dash did make a big amount of squeak noise. Screen size of the radio system was also very small. Yet as many folks have used the term, the truck was functional.

      Fit n Finish was very tight, did not find any large panel gapes or errors in the paint job or exterior body.  I did find the very simple tie down points with already rusting bolts to be a bit surprising but it still worked and the truck had a bed so I did not have to worry about messing the truck bed up. Interesting observation is that when the truck is locked, so is the tailgate, so with a load, I had to always keep the truck unlocked so the tailgate would open and let me unload my chips and soil.
      The V8 engine was very smooth and quiet and the only drawback was the weird auto stop / start. If you’re in normal traffic it works just as GMs systems have worked with turning off and on the engine. Yet sit in one place too long and then release the brake pedal and you get a message on the center dash screen saying you have been stationary too long and must put the transmission in park and then back to drive before engine will start back up. Even with following their directions, it seemed the engine did not want to start back up forcing me to put it into park and then manually starting the truck again.


      Other than that single issue, the truck worked and the backup camera was nice to have to get as close as possible to the wife’s new raised veggie garden.

      Hit me up with any questions you have about the truck or my project. Yes I did take out the grass the weekend before so my cedar chips are 3-4 inches deep.
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Ford said that it would be cutting a shift from its Essex Engine Plant in Ontario starting in October.  Ford says the move will "better align with consumer demand".  The likely cause? Ford F-150 buyers are shifting more of their purchases away from the 5.0 liter V8.
      F-150 buyers have a choice of 5 engines when selecting a truck, the 2.7-liter Ecoboost, the 3.3-liter V6, the 3.5-liter Ecoboost, and now a 3.0-liter PowerStroke Diesel, all in addition to the 5.0-liter V8, and the customer mix appears to be skewing towards the smaller displacement engines.
      The cut in shifts will not result in job cuts as those workers will be transitioned to another engine plant to build the 7.3-liter engine due to be installed in the 2020 Ford Super Duties. That transition will happen in November of this year. 

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    • By Drew Dowdell
      Ford said that it would be cutting a shift from its Essex Engine Plant in Ontario starting in October.  Ford says the move will "better align with consumer demand".  The likely cause? Ford F-150 buyers are shifting more of their purchases away from the 5.0 liter V8.
      F-150 buyers have a choice of 5 engines when selecting a truck, the 2.7-liter Ecoboost, the 3.3-liter V6, the 3.5-liter Ecoboost, and now a 3.0-liter PowerStroke Diesel, all in addition to the 5.0-liter V8, and the customer mix appears to be skewing towards the smaller displacement engines.
      The cut in shifts will not result in job cuts as those workers will be transitioned to another engine plant to build the 7.3-liter engine due to be installed in the 2020 Ford Super Duties. That transition will happen in November of this year. 
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