2018 Jaguar XJR575 Adds More Power

Nice, interesting spec, surprised that they are using a knock off of MB air vents. Also the steering wheel looks like something from the 70's, dated and old with that thick ass circle center covering the airbag. Over all not bad otherwise, but the brakes do look undersized for this full size sedan with that power.

I think this is the XJ's farewell tour swan song.  The sales are low, there has been rumor that they would not replace it.  And this XJ came out in 2010 or 2011, and is looking a bit tired now.  And a base model S-class has 516 lb-ft of torque and is nearly as fast as this special edition XJR.   I think they are just trying to milk a couple more years out of the XJ, and they'll replace it with a big 3 row crossover.

They could do a 3 row crossover right now to top the F-Pace as we speak without dumping the XJ.  The XJ probably needs an MCE rather than an all-new model anyway.

Needs a facelift--revise that ugly rear (hideous tallights) and that boring dash..the dash design is dull, nothing luxurious about it..bulgy vents, etc...a Jag needs a flat, horizontal dash with a big 'ol plank of wood IMO, not gray bland material..

When this car first came out....I was like

Then about 2 years after its release, something happened and I was like

But now...after all these years...Im back to 

6 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

When this car first came out....I was like

Then about 2 years after its release, something happened and I was like

 

But now...after all these years...Im back to 

IOW, where is the XJ MCE?

9 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

IOW, where is the XJ MCE?

I dunno what MCE stands for?

I thought I knew, but it aint what I thought it was, that is why I edited this response!

MCE stands for mid-cycle enhancement.  Instead of an all-new model, the carmaker upgrades a lot of what is there and sometimes even tweaks the exterior and maybe trim prices.

14 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

MCE stands for mid-cycle enhancement.  Instead of an all-new model, the carmaker upgrades a lot of what is there and sometimes even tweaks the exterior and maybe trim prices.

Yes. Yes. MCE for mid-cycle enhancement.

Well...it needed a mid-cycle enhancement 5 years ago...when I started liking it...ironically...that it never got.

Yes I know...a couple of years ago it got LED lighting up front...

Its time for a new one as visually, one could tell its a decades old design.

The current XJ has been around since 2009..didn't realize it had around that long...never saw very many around, even in an area with a lot of luxury cars like Scottsdale.   I like the front and profile styling, but the rear end is ugly, and the interior boring...

The S-class has had an MCE, an all new model and another MCE in the time this XJ has been sitting on the market with the same body, interior and 5.0 V8 from 2010.

7 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

The S-class has had an MCE, an all new model and another MCE in the time this XJ has been sitting on the market with the same body, interior and 5.0 V8 from 2010.

Yup as they still have not hit it to be a big seller since you do not see many s class around either. Course you will say it is still the worlds best selling top end luxury sedan. Does not mean it is that big of a hit. Especially when you see the amount of so called luxury SUV/CUV's.

18 hours ago, dfelt said:

Yup as they still have not hit it to be a big seller since you do not see many s class around either. Course you will say it is still the worlds best selling top end luxury sedan. Does not mean it is that big of a hit. Especially when you see the amount of so called luxury SUV/CUV's.

The S-class outsells the A8, 7-series and XJ combined.  

Wow. The S-Class is that much of a powerhouse in its segment?  By that logic, why should Audi, Jaguar and BMW even try?

The S-class has been the top selling full size luxury car globally, for how long--40-50 years?   No surprise...

8 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

Wow. The S-Class is that much of a powerhouse in its segment?  By that logic, why should Audi, Jaguar and BMW even try?

The problem is that many people are the protagonist in their own little self centered mini drama, and are unaware of and unable to interact with the world around them.

Just now, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

The S-class has been the top selling full size luxury car globally, for how long--40-50 years?   No surprise...

...which is why we need other options...the same thing all of the time is boring.

11 hours ago, riviera74 said:

Wow. The S-Class is that much of a powerhouse in its segment?  By that logic, why should Audi, Jaguar and BMW even try?

Jaguar can go home in this segment Audi has China to save them and the fact that that A8 chassis is shared with Bentley.   BMW actually sells some 7-series and they share that platform with RR.  If this new A8 tanks maybe they will give up, the S-class is going to offer a V6 and come after what little sales the A8 has left.  The only reason BMW, Audi, Lexus and Jaguar have any sales is because they start $20k below the S-class.  Mercedes let them have those sales until now.

9 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Jaguar can go home in this segment Audi has China to save them and the fact that that A8 chassis is shared with Bentley.   BMW actually sells some 7-series and they share that platform with RR.  If this new A8 tanks maybe they will give up, the S-class is going to offer a V6 and come after what little sales the A8 has left.  The only reason BMW, Audi, Lexus and Jaguar have any sales is because they start $20k below the S-class.  Mercedes let them have those sales until now.

Nope disagree, SMK just as you think the world is best with MB and everything is best no matter eco box to s class, there are those fans that love the other labels. MB did not leave the low end to the other labels till now. There are plenty of people who see garbage when they look at MB compared to their preferred auto line. I have coworkers that think Audi is better than anything else in the world and I know people who think this way about Jag, BMW etc.

S class might pick up some sales by selling a cheaper S class, though I think they will hurt themselves, but will wait to see what happens. After all you think MB SUV's like G wagon are the best even when Drew posted picture of mismatched screws, interior trim piece colors and fit n finish issues and yet Escalade clearly is unaffected by G Wagon sales.

Audi and Lexus will stay as discount option to the S-class.  Maserati needs to dump the Quattroporte and Jag should dump the XJ.  They have to lose money when they sell maybe 5,000 units a year.

G-wagen is a class above Escalade and 2016 was the G's best sales year since its 1979 debut.  And the other guys are smart they don't try to go after it, they stay away. 

On a side note, I saw an 2010 or 2011 era Quattroporte S with like 40k miles and the Ferrari V8 and all that, $127,000 base when new and it was $26k used.  No one wants that car.

12 hours ago, smk4565 said:

The S-class outsells the A8, 7-series and XJ combined.  

3 cars "nobody buys".

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Let's try this:

The Escalade outsells the g-wagon, X6 and F-Pace combined in the U.S.

I guess the Bugatti Royale must be a really s#$& car because they only sold half dozen.  Good thing the much nicer Corolla has sold 40 Million.

Could we please stop having school yard fights over sales numbers?

I love the Escalade, but will every day of the week take an F type over it.

Would love to actual discuss merits of actual vehicles.

6 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Audi and Lexus will stay as discount option to the S-class.  Maserati needs to dump the Quattroporte and Jag should dump the XJ.  They have to lose money when they sell maybe 5,000 units a year.

G-wagen is a class above Escalade and 2016 was the G's best sales year since its 1979 debut.  And the other guys are smart they don't try to go after it, they stay away. 

On a side note, I saw an 2010 or 2011 era Quattroporte S with like 40k miles and the Ferrari V8 and all that, $127,000 base when new and it was $26k used.  No one wants that car.

All luxury cars are a horrible investment. Given the cash to buy an S class, give me a GTI and I will happily invest the hundred grand I save.

A simplistic fixation on sales numbers with regard to luxury cars seems counter-intuitive...isn't luxury supposed to be about exclusivity, not sales volume?   

22 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

A simplistic fixation on sales numbers with regard to luxury cars seems counter-intuitive...isn't luxury supposed to be about exclusivity, not sales volume?   

...or at least the car, not merely its image with a small group of people?

I would define being wealthy as being able to live life on ones own terms, and would argue that is different for every wealthy person.  i could see being very wealthy, living in Manhattan, owning no car...being very wealthy, owning a ranch, and driving a basic ford F series...being very wealthy, living in Monaco and driving a Bugatti Veyron...being very wealthy, keeping a modest house in the Midwest and driving an XT5...being very wealthy, driving a vintage Mercedees 280 convertible and living in Palm springs...

...I also drive through some less affluent parts of town on a regular basis and see older used Benz, Cadillac, Lincoln, Lexus and the like languishing on used car lots with faded signs on the windshields...