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What is the big deal about this cartoon? Are Muslims just a little too sensitive? Go to Iran or any Muslim country and you will see anti-American and anti-Christian depictions on walls and publicly funded murals desecrating the American flag. How is this any worse?

Why is there so much outrage over this cartoon? Shouldn't the Muslim world be fixing their own behavior instead of trying to limit our freedom of expression?

I say the Muslim outrage is nothing more than hypocrisy.

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Is it just me, or the Muslim world in general obsessed with violence and mayhem (esp. towards Western cultures)? So much for Islam being a religion of 'peace'.

I've never understood the violence and insanity that seems to surround religion in general...

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Is it just me, or the Muslim world in general obsessed with violence and mayhem (esp. towards Western cultures)?  So much for Islam being a religion of 'peace'.

I've never understood the violence and insanity that seems to surround religion in general...

No, just certain extremist factions of the Muslim world. Your statement would be like, say, a Hindu reading the LA Times regularly and musing, "Is it just me, or is the Christian world in general obsessed with being bigoted and judgmental (esp. toward minority cultures)? So much for Christianity being a religion following Jesus' teachings of tolerance and peace..."

It works both ways guys...

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No, just certain extremist factions of the Muslim world.  Your statement would be like, say, a Hindu reading the LA Times regularly and musing, "Is it just me, or is the Christian world in general obsessed with being bigoted and judgmental (esp. toward minority cultures)?  So much for Christianity being a religion following Jesus' teachings of tolerance and peace..."

It works both ways guys...

Yeah, the extremists get all the press... I'm not down with any religion, so it's all alien to me.

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I feel the same way. Look at their political cartoons regarding the West, Christians, and George Bush.

Fair is fair.

This reminds me of this young married couple I once knew, John and Katie Rong. Wherever they would go, they took nothing but left turns. It made going anywhere with them a real pain in the ass.

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This reminds me of this young married couple I once knew, John and Katie Rong.  Wherever they would go, they took nothing but left turns.  It made going anywhere with them a real pain in the ass.

Interesting..I generally only make right turns unless I have a left turn lane with an arrow. I have a phobia about turning left in traffic without an arrow (a couple of bad experiences years ago caused that....(partially related to my phobia about carburators).

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No, just certain extremist factions of the Muslim world.  Your statement would be like, say, a Hindu reading the LA Times regularly and musing, "Is it just me, or is the Christian world in general obsessed with being bigoted and judgmental (esp. toward minority cultures)?  So much for Christianity being a religion following Jesus' teachings of tolerance and peace..."

It works both ways guys...

I couldn't agree more. I think we need to take a look at all religious extremism. Maybe the 9-11 attacks could be a fair warning of what can happen when religion becomes fanatical. I think the Christian zealots in this country are also only a decade or two away from being totally nuts.

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What is the big deal about this cartoon? Are Muslims just a little too sensitive?  Go to Iran or any Muslim country and you will see anti-American and anti-Christian depictions on walls and publicly funded murals desecrating the American flag. How is this any worse?

Why is there so much outrage over this cartoon? Shouldn't the Muslim world be fixing their own behavior instead of trying to limit our freedom of expression?

I say the Muslim outrage is nothing more than hypocrisy.

The Muslims who are outraged by this cartoon are probably the ones who have perfectly fine behavior that doesn't need "fixing".

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Thank you Europe!

It's nice to see that they are actually expressing how they feel about this now, like it's all not just American and Britain.

The fact that they are reacting in this manner proves one thing! THAT CARTOON IS DEAD ON CORRECT!!! look at the way the handle it! they are a ticking time bomb.

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The greatest part is they want a boycot Danish product. . . it's only because with wind turbines replacing oil are an energy, they'll fall flat on there face!

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a lot of good points here...

but what some of us fail to realize is that there are ALL different types of extremists, muslims happen to be the ones in the spot light right now, which mean most likely there is another bunch of extremists getting ready to butt in.

also, look at the three western religions' they all have fought over the same strip of land for years, and most of that time, that i am aware of christians dominated most of that area...

also these people look upon our culture, and think, "hey if they are so rich and powerful, why cant the help us, or why dont they?" and then they realize, our country doesnot truly care about the people, but what lies underground.

food for thought, not that i am against the cartoon, not at all, i wanted to attempt to enlighten.

one more thing, the muslim religion very violent, and fully of condradictions...but then again, in my opinon so do all religions

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one more thing, the muslim religion very violent, and fully of condradictions...but then again, in my opinon so do all religions

It can be interpreted as violent, in the same manner as Christianity can.

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It can be interpreted as violent, in the same manner as Christianity can.

Exactly. From my learnings, I'd say that in terms of most peaceful, the order of the "Three Ring" religions goes something like:

1. Judaism

2. Islam

3. Christianity

My ranking is based on the fact that the Jews have never had an out-and-out program of any kind against the Christians or Muslims, but that they have been persecuted by both, especially Christians in the "early" days of the Church. Islam from the start preached a tolerance toward its "ancestral" religions of Christianity and Judaism, and the history of early Islam supports this. Muslims were very welcoming of early Christians into the Holy Lands, as well as Jews. It wasn't until the Crusades that relations soured. With Christianity, you have Crusades, the early European discrimination against the Jews (see: usury) and, to a lesser extent, the Holocaust.

With all the various fighting in Gaza Strip and the various "moral crusades" of many Christians these days...no one is any better or worse off.

When you look at actual doctrines, though, and the actual teachings of the three, all three are really about the same when it comes to pacificism

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Let the Christian bashing begin.

The protests just prove to me what Islam is all about. Say something bad about Islam and the Muslims will threaten to kidnap and kill whoever said it. Do not believe in what they believe and they want you dead. It is what we are fighting against and many people fail to realize it.

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Exactly.  From my learnings, I'd say that in terms of most peaceful, the order of the "Three Ring" religions goes something like:

1. Judaism

2. Islam

3. Christianity

I would have to say of ALL the religions in the world Islam would rank dead last for peace. It is very rare that any religion other than Islam teaches about killing, overthrowing or destroying while in a place of worship. It is widely known that Islamic clerics do this in their mosques.

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Anyone ever see the VW Polo TV ad with the suicide bomber...

"It's one tough little car" :P

I know XP has seen it but I forget where I saw it, maybe BigBoys or ebaumsWorld. It was like fall of 2004.

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I would have to say of ALL the religions in the world Islam would rank dead last for peace. It is very rare that any religion other than Islam teaches about killing, overthrowing or destroying while in a place of worship. It is widely known that Islamic clerics do this in their mosques.

That is not true Islam. It is a heretical bastardization of the Religion of Peace.

What about the pastors who advocate blowing up abortion clinics?

See, I was talking about the actual religion, not the people of it. Oh, and let's not forget, the entire Cold War was about the U.S.A. fighting a "Godless Nation." It is from the Eisenhower administration that we have "In God We Trust" and the infamous "under God" in our Pledge. Governments of all kinds (including Church government) will use fear to manipulate the populace, using the "you're either with us or against us" mentality to further the agenda of the moment. Back in the last millenium, much of it was Christian Europe using Christianity to further the Crusades. This millenium it is Islamic radicals using Islam to further their agenda against globalization. I see no difference.

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Sciguy, if you look at religious doctrines with a critical and open mind, you will find that those three religions are a lot like Ramen: they may come in different packages, but for the most part they taste the same. My post was not bashing Christians or Christianity. It was (IMO) a fairly objective look at what has happened in history. As a Christian myself, it does taste bad, but it is reality. Instead of denying what happened, I find it more useful to study it so as to not suffer the same pitfalls as the people of the past did. If I were bashing Christianity, then I would also be criticizing Islam for holding Christianity in such high esteem. Not gonna happen.

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This one smells like one I should stay out of....I really don't want to put my ideas on religion out on this forum.

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BBL: I hope you will not get offended by this joke. It's a bit un-P.C. but I mean no harm by it. :ph34r:

Muslim Children

Body: Two Muslim mothers are sitting in a caf chatting over a pint of

goat's milk. The older of the mothers pulls her bag out and starts

flipping through pictures and they start reminiscing.

"This is my oldest son Mohammed. He's 24 years old now." "Yes, I remember him as a baby," says the other mother cheerfully. He's a martyr now, though," mum confides. "Oh, so sad dear," says the other.

"And this is my second son Kalid. He's 21." "Oh, I remember him," says the other happily. "He had such curly hair when he was born." "He's a martyr, too," says mum quietly. "Oh gracious me," says the other.

"And this is my third son. My baby. My beautiful Ahmed. He's 18," she whispers. "Yes," says the friend enthusiastically, "I remember when he first started school." "He is a martyr, also," says mum, with tears in her eyes.

After a pause and a deep sigh, the second Muslim mother looks wistfully at the photographs and says... They blow up so fast, don't they?"

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Anyone ever see the VW Polo TV ad with the suicide bomber...

"It's one tough little car" :P

I know XP has seen it but I forget where I saw it, maybe BigBoys or ebaumsWorld. It was like fall of 2004.

I saw that on the news a few months ago. Hilarious.

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This reminds me of this young married couple I once knew, John and Katie Rong.  Wherever they would go, they took nothing but left turns.  It made going anywhere with them a real pain in the ass.

Haha, I get it! Two Rongs never make a right! Wow, Enzora, you crack me up!

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