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OKLAHOMA CITY -- Union leaders at the idled General Motors Corp. plant would like to one day produce the next generation of the Chevrolet Camaro sports car.

GM stopped production of sport utility vehicles at the plant in February, putting 2,200 members of United Auto Workers Local 1999 out of work and forcing hundreds of layoffs at area suppliers.

The automaker unveiled a concept version of a 400-horsepower Camaro at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January. The 2002 model year was the last for the Camaro.

"We're still trying to get the Oklahoma City plant a product to build for the future," said Bob Alexander, president of UAW Local 1999. "With the quality of work that has come out of our plant, we're not giving up."

Last month, union officials, state Rep. Richard Morrissette, D-Oklahoma City, and former Democratic Gov. David Walters presented the local plant's strengths to GM executives in Detroit. The executives were noncommittal, so the group is lobbying to take the case directly to GM's board of directors.

But plant manager Tyree Minner said Thursday that he believes it's unlikely a new product ever will come to Oklahoma City. GM has offered buyout and early-retirement packages to hourly employees across the country, including those in Oklahoma City.

"I don't want them to hold out hope and pass up their chances for this package," Minner said.

The company is in preliminary discussions with one of its plants in Oshawa, Ontario, about the Camaro, although GM hasn't decided if it will build the car.

"It's a hot product," GM spokeswoman Nancy Sarpolis said. "A lot of people would like to see it built, and a lot of people would like to build it."

Before the Oklahoma City plant was idled, it produced extended versions of the Chevrolet TrailBlazers and GMC Envoys.

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I remember hearing something, can someone confirm or deny?

When GM canned the 4th gen and thus pulled out of the contract they had with the government of Quebec, they agreed that if the Camaro was ever brought back, it would be built in Quebec again.

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I remember hearing something, can someone confirm or deny?

When GM canned the 4th gen and thus pulled out of the contract they had with the government of Quebec, they agreed that if the Camaro was ever brought back, it would be built in Quebec again.

This story has been confused so many times. I believe it was related to the Ste. Therese plant in particular. Since the plant has been leveled, they don't have that to fall back on. And GM has no other assembly plants in Quebec.

The Camaro will be produced in Oshawa.

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The Camaro will be produced in Oshawa.

So does this mean Willmington didn't get the nod? That does not bode well for that plant. I can see GM building as many cars as it can in Oshawa, good quality and output with no health benefits to worry about. Also it makes sense under their new lean and green business model.

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So does this mean Willmington didn't get the nod?  That does not bode well for that plant.  I can see GM building as many cars as it can in Oshawa, good quality and output with no health benefits to worry about.  Also it makes sense under their new lean and green business model.

The products for Oshawa are just about set. It's only four vehicles at the moment.

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I'd rather have a Canadian Camaro than a UAW-built Camaro. Oshawa has a lot better quality than just about any U.S. plant.

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The products for Oshawa are just about set. It's only four vehicles at the moment.

So the plan has not been fully approved, correct? Also you didn't say anything about Willmington is that subject off limits for now?

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So the plan has not been fully approved, correct?  Also you didn't say anything about Willmington is that subject off limits for now?

what could possibly happen with wilmington? it's future seems guaranteed as long as solstice/sky are in production, which will be at least another 4-5 years. I hope GM has come to its senses and approved something more for Pontiac off Kappa, a 2+2 coupe and sedan!

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what could possibly happen with wilmington? it's future seems guaranteed as long as solstice/sky are in production, which will be at least another 4-5 years. I hope GM has come to its senses and approved something more for Pontiac off Kappa, a 2+2 coupe and sedan!

Thinga are fine in Wilmington. And, nothing has been approved ... :AH-HA_wink:

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what could possibly happen with wilmington? it's future seems guaranteed as long as solstice/sky are in production, which will be at least another 4-5 years. I hope GM has come to its senses and approved something more for Pontiac off Kappa, a 2+2 coupe and sedan!

Lets say hypothetically that GM moves all the Zetas to Oshawa. Now GM has a 60K a year program in a tiny corner of a 250K a year factory. What is GM going to do with it that under capacity? Hudson didn't answer my question and likely for good reason that has me worried for Willmington.

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By the time the Solstice and Sky would be ready for a redesign, Kappa II will be around, so we will probably see a Kappa II sedan, coupe, wagon, or any combination of the three at Wilmington.

4 products at Oshawa?

Either: Camaro, Impala, G8, GTO

or: Camaro, Impala, G8, Buick sedan

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By the time the Solstice and Sky would be ready for a redesign, Kappa II will be around, so we will probably see a Kappa II sedan, coupe, wagon, or any combination of the three at Wilmington.

Sounds like you expect a lot from Kappa II.

4 products at Oshawa?

Camaro, Impala, Buick sedan, Pontiac Zeta coupe or sedan.

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Lets say hypothetically that GM moves all the Zetas to Oshawa.  Now GM has a 60K a year program in a tiny corner of a 250K a year factory.  What is GM going to do with it that under capacity?  Hudson didn't answer my question and likely for good reason that has me worried for Willmington.

I have no new news about product at Wilmington...but GM's anticiapating over 500,000 units of Zetas in Oshawa (it'll be revised combining Oshawa 1 and Oshawa 2).

As for Hamtramck getting Zeta, that's outdated information.

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its going to be interesting to see how many zetas we will actually end up with...

are foriegn market zetas going to be built here in NA or will they be done some where else (australia?)

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I have no new news about product at Wilmington...but GM's anticiapating over 500,000 units of Zetas in Oshawa (it'll be revised combining Oshawa 1 and Oshawa 2).

As for Hamtramck getting Zeta, that's outdated information.

awesome! that is a whole lot of units off zeta. I hope this means high expectations, and great model/trim spreads. impala will be schweet!

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As for Hamtramck getting Zeta, that's outdated information.

Any idea what will happen to that plant when the DTS and Lucerne have run their course?

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Any idea what will happen to that plant when the DTS and Lucerne have run their course?

Their RWD replacements will come on line, as well as this $100K Cadillac if BL is ever able to get GM's PPC to approve it.

I have no new news about product at Wilmington...but GM's anticiapating over 500,000 units of Zetas in Oshawa (it'll be revised combining Oshawa 1 and Oshawa 2).

You're probally right (you aren't the 1st one to say this), but I'm still keeping my money on Camaro going to Wilmington for now. :)

As for Hamtramck getting Zeta, that's outdated information.

Yep. That was part of the original early "Zeta" planning, when the car was initially supposed to replace the Bonneville and Park Avenue.

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Their RWD replacements will come on line, as well as this $100K Cadillac if BL is ever able to get GM's PPC to approve it.

Any idea what platform the RWD replacements for the Lucerne and DTS will use, if not Zeta?

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Their RWD replacements will come on line, as well as this $100K Cadillac if BL is ever able to get GM's PPC to approve it.

Like your wager about Wilmington, I wouldn't be so quick to bet on the next generation DTS or Lucerne going to Hamtramck. It's currently not in the plan. Edited by Hudson

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