Random Thoughts Thread

[oldshurst442]

Even BEFORE Trump became #47,  Biden hit China with 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs because even sleepy Joe KNEW that China would just flood the US market with ACTUAL AFFORDABLE EVs and that would sink GM, Ford and Stellantis in the US. Sleepy Joe even forced Canada (Trudeau) to do the same. Yes...Sleepy Joe FORCED Trudeau as our Canadian government was reluctant to do so at first. So Canada also put 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs.  

But now, China upped their tariffs on Canadian canola oils and beef  and stated that its because of our own tariffs on their EVs...  Our government NOW knows that it be best to leave those tariffs because Chinese EVs WILL flood the Canadian market but that will also close down GM, Ford and Chrysler factories IN Canada.  So our beef and canola oil industry may have to suffer a little in the Chinese market... 

When Ford and GM want to peddle high priced EVs...

When Stellantis wants to peddle Hemi powered 15 year old Durangos to stay afloat...  I understand what @Drew Dowdell told me about the Durango being a place holder. Still does NOT change the fact that once again, the US auto industry was caught with their pants down not having the right product for an ever changing industry. Although they did react ON time this time around, they STILL fumbled it...

Tesla lead the god damned way, but their leader failed them. 

GM realized it right on time, made all the right decisions on time, but mis and dis information phoqued a nation with an ever changing world... 

[Drew Dowdell]

38 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Even BEFORE Trump became #47,  Biden hit China with 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs because even sleepy Joe KNEW that China would just flood the US market with ACTUAL AFFORDABLE EVs and that would sink GM, Ford and Stellantis in the US. Sleepy Joe even forced Canada (Trudeau) to do the same. Yes...Sleepy Joe FORCED Trudeau as our Canadian government was reluctant to do so at first. So Canada also put 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs.  

But now, China upped their tariffs on Canadian canola oils and beef  and stated that its because of our own tariffs on their EVs...  Our government NOW knows that it be best to leave those tariffs because Chinese EVs WILL flood the Canadian market but that will also close down GM, Ford and Chrysler factories IN Canada.  So our beef and canola oil industry may have to suffer a little in the Chinese market... 

When Ford and GM want to peddle high priced EVs...

When Stellantis wants to peddle Hemi powered 15 year old Durangos to stay afloat...  I understand what @Drew Dowdell told me about the Durango being a place holder. Still does NOT change the fact that once again, the US auto industry was caught with their pants down not having the right product for an ever changing industry. Although they did react ON time this time around, they STILL fumbled it...

Tesla lead the god damned way, but their leader failed them. 

GM realized it right on time, made all the right decisions on time, but mis and dis information phoqued a nation with an ever changing world... 

He was sleepy joe because we could all sleep at night and he wasn't up at 2 a.m. posting unhinged tweets.

You're right about all the rest, but here's some additional context.

The Chinese EVs are so cheap because there is a price war going on in China in the EV market right now. They are being sold at a loss even in their domestic market because they have so many companies producing them, they are trying to outlive each other to eventually dominate the market.  The Chinese goverment also is subsidizing the purchase of EVs on the consumer end while supporting the industry with subsidies. It's the EV tax credit and battery plant subsidy we did but times 10.

The Chinese want entry to the North American market for the same reason. They don't want to just sell here, they want to put the legacies out of business so they can raise prices later.  They did this with the solar industry already. We once had a booming solar panel production capacity in North America, but China came in and undersold everyone and now China controls that market. 

[oldshurst442]

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

He was sleepy joe because we could all sleep at night and he wasn't up at 2 a.m. posting unhinged tweets.

100% percent!!!

I wrote it as sleepy Joe in sarcasm.  I know the maga folk and some from the left like to call him that but I wanted to be known that he was wide awake and AWARE of the Chinese threat. He was also tough when needed to force an ally, Canada, to adopt the same tariffs. Trudeau was asleep at the wheel for that one and Biden forced him to comply with US demands.   And I have no problems with that.  There are times when our respective political leaders NEED to force upon one another certain demands.  And THAT kind of relationship is a healthy one when hard decisions like that will benefit BOTH countries.  

Weapons of mass destruction and Jean Chretien, then Canada's Prime Minister, did not buy what George Dubya and the US military complex was selling and did not support the Persian Gulf War 2.0.  And Canada initially did not join that coalition. And Canada was outcasted by many Western nations.  But that allowed Canada to have its own voice different than the US. That made the world respect Canada and in the long term, the world saw that Canada's intelligence is far greater than just being a lap dog for the US. Also, that signaled to the US that Canada is not a yes man to US politics and in later years, other US political leaders respect Canadas decisions making for a stronger bond between our 2 nations.  Obama had a GREAT relationship with Canada. I would also say Biden too.  

[trinacriabob]

7 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

the big "D"

Dallas-Fort Worth of course.

Haha

[G. David Felt]

WOW, this is an interesting concept that I could see making it to production. Weird that they follow GM with the power port just in front of the drivers door, would rather have it in one of the rear corners.
Acura RSX Prototype In Person: The Future is Still Electric - Autoblog

[oldshurst442]

 

Looks like Buick's front end design language. Mainly the headlight design language but also the front end coming to some sort of peak making it seem that Acura is trying to mimic Buick.  Granted that Acura's front end comes to an end in form of a peak while Buick is rounded, but still.  Weird also that Honda has dropped GM with their EV partnership...

Honda...get your own face, will ya???!!!

Its not even appealing. Not on Buick, not on Acura either... 

[G. David Felt]

This is so cool and a wakeup call to the death of U.S.A trucks.

China’s $25,000 Truck: The Affordable Electric Revolution the Industry Didn’t Expect | Watch

Clearly the Chinese are shooting across the bow of the American truck market and it was designed in the U.K.