William Maley

Mercedez Benz News Revealed! 2017 Mercedes-Benz E400 4Matic Wagon

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William Maley    394

It may seem odd for an automaker to launch a new wagon in the U.S. considering how crazy we are for crossovers. But Mercedes-Benz knows there is a small subset of luxury buyers who prefer the looks and practicality of a wagon. For those, Mercedes has announced a new E-Class wagon.

 

The 2017 E-Class wagon takes the shape found on the sedan and adds a longer roof and rear tailgate. Using the same 115.7-inch wheelbase as the sedan, the wagon will offer more interior space. As to how much, Mercedes doesn't provide that information. But considering the current wagon offers 57.4 cubic feet of cargo space, we expect it to be about the same or slightly more.

 

Like the current E-Class wagon, Mercedes-Benz will only offer the 2017 model in one configuration: A Biturbo 3.0L V6 with 329 horsepower and 354 pound-feet of torque (known as the E400). This will come paired with a nine-speed automatic and 4Matic all-wheel drive.

 

The interior is handsome with high-quality materials and a design that is reminiscent of the S-Class. There is seating for seven thanks to a rear-facing third row (best reserved for small kids).

 

Mercedes says the 2017 E400 wagon will arrive in the U.S. early next year. Pricing will be announced at a later time.

 

Source: Mercedes-Benz

 


 

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Suaviloquent    713

Well, the greenshouse reminds me of the R-class, not in a good way. And then the rear-end is the GLC rear squished vertically and then slapped on. The front end, well, it is an E-Class variant after all.

 

However, the available interior for the most part looks stand-out, except why the hell is there shiny black plastic on the centre console trim? First, it looks out of place, just doesn't mesh well and second, it reminds me of Cadillac - and I don't like it there either, but they've reduced it a lot. I think it's a decent detractor to the otherwise very well done but obviously Designo or other high trim option interior shown in the press images. I think they should have, like the C-Class placed more wood trim in that section instead.

 

However, it looks the way it looks, because that's the way all current Mercedes models look. Which is the formula used unrelentingly by every luxury brand these days.

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dfelt    1,777

Station wagon it is, bland exterior design, agree with Sauv on the squashed pasted on butt from the GLC. Over all not an inspiration to own.

 

Love the big interior that is always found on station wagons. What the hell is the lines for in what looks like plastic but I guess will be stated as wood trim on the dash and doors. I also agree with the plastic on the center stack. In today's market, they need to do much better than equal to the competition.

 

This will sell to the MB badge faithful but to me is just been there before with a dated look of inside and outside. Nothing exciting and new.

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smk4565    322

I actually like the back end styling, my guess is they wanted it to look a bit like their crossovers because crossovers are hot.   The rear seat legroom looks huge, and this car does seat 7.  I don't like the shiny black plastic stuff on the dash either, I don't like it in any car.  It seems from the pictures that piece below the HVAC controls is the piano black regardless of what kind of wood trim or carbon fiber or aluminum trim you get.  Minor annoyance on an otherwise fancy looking interior.

 

This is one of the last of a dying breed, hard to find a luxury wagon or station wagon in general.  The Subaru Outback, Audi Allrood and Volvo CrossCountry are all lifted wagons trying to be like a crossover.  E-class wagon buyers have a really high income, I think even higher than S-class buyers, so that helps keep this car around.  There is faithful group with a lot of money willing to pay for it.

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smk4565    322

Drew, you should get one.  Smooth riding Air Matic suspension, plenty of room for hauling things.  Unique too, the wagon is only a fraction of E-class sales.

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surreal1272    677

I like that Benz is willing to put out a wagon but the overall exterior design is just lacking to me, especially the profile and the rear three quarters. The interior looks good but it should in this price range.

If I could take the interior of the E Class and put it inside my Magnum, then I'd be perfectly happy with that (save for the shiny black plastic in there).

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dfelt    1,777

Cadillac could have kept a station wagon going if they just had given it more room inside rather than giving it the shape of a station wagon but the room of a 4 door sedan.

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surreal1272    677

There are some segments truly worth not chasing. Mercedes has this vehicle here because they're probably special order only.

I 100% disagree because the same thing was said years ago when CUVs entered the fray. No one would dare trade their real SUV for a glorified tall wagon (which is what they are) they said. Putting a wagon out is a risk for sure, but a risk worth taking. After eight years with my Magnum, I can personally attest to the versatility that equaled just about every CUV out there, save for it being RWD only (obviously AWD was available on them). The only reason for most folks choose a CUV is ride height. Folks that say that wagons are "blah" and spread around the stigma that has plagued wagons, should take a good look at the CUVs out there that are nothing more than tall wagons. If my Magnum had the current interior of today's Charger, there would not be one car I'd take above it, save for a CTS-V wagon.

Just my two cents.

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Suaviloquent    713

Well it's not a permanent kind of deal. 

 

But right now...wagons aren't even being considered for Europe...because estate sales are evaporating towards you guessed it...Crossovers.

 

Not only that...the Ford Mondeo and the Passat Estate variants are being pushed upmarket to try to be a value play against German Wagons. Even Jaguar is reconsidering their wagon strategy.

 

Then there's the Subaru Outback. The funny thing is, it's as tall as the new Sorento, longer...but it's raised ride height, sloped rear hatch, lack of third row...fools us into thinking it's a wagon-esque vehicle...which Audi had their Alltracks that are very similar, but smaller.

 

If wagons are to make a comeback, they are not going to return as we imagine them. They will become more impractical actually or more stylized or like this Mercedes - a heritage kind of deal.. with oddly enough crossover styling cues to hint at the familial sense of practicality.. and with no emerging demographic proof...as in millennials deciding to want them. 

 

And Mercedes is one of the few, along with Volvo to market wagons (which are also sacrificing function over form...) it sets up too many premium connotations.

 

And then some sedans are becoming just something different. Look at the incoming Model 3. I looks like a mishmash of the Model S and Model X. But you don't end up with a wagon...or a hatchback. You get a tall mail-slot style trunk.

 

I'd consider a Chevy Bolt a wagon, because it isn't a compact hatch or a crossover. Yeah.

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smk4565    322

Wagons and hatchbacks are a useful body style, more cargo space, but the handling and performance of a car.  In that regard they make a lot of sense, but consumers just don't seem to buy much of either body style.  In theory, they are better than crossovers, an E-class wagon would get better gas mileage, handle better and be faster than a GLE suv, the E-class wagon probably has as much or more cargo and passenger space.  Yet consumers want the crossover.

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oldshurst442    989

If I was into hatches, 3rd/4rth gen F-Bodies and Vettes aside, and knowing I coudnt cruise the vistas in an Oldsmobile anymore, Id go this route myself.

 

PS:

The only "Estate" branding I like comes from Chevrolet.

1971 Kingswood Estate

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Suaviloquent    713

I know the Bolt does not look anything like a wagon....

 

But....There's nothing else I can classify it as.

 

Also...I'm not trying to stress that is this one....but even the writer of the article at this link says you can call it a small station wagon-esqe vehicle.

 

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/tesla-model-3-vs-chevy-bolt-ev-5-key-differences.html/?a=viewall

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Drew Dowdell    4,999

I know the Bolt does not look anything like a wagon....

 

But....There's nothing else I can classify it as.

 

Also...I'm not trying to stress that is this one....but even the writer of the article at this link says you can call it a small station wagon-esqe vehicle.

 

http://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/tesla-model-3-vs-chevy-bolt-ev-5-key-differences.html/?a=viewall

 

The Bolt is a hatchback.

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Suaviloquent    713

:scratchchin:

 

I know...and I respect your opinions, but to me the Bolt is a wagon. A great wagon tho. But not in the traditional sense. Too tall to be a traditional hatch like Focus, Elantra, Cruze, Mazda 3 hatches... too car-like small to be a crossover...too big to be a compact car...reasonable cargo space, buttoned down like a sedan....it's a wagon in the new sense, and some somewhere, like the writer of the article kinda can agree, but not the dictionary definition!!!

 

 

:yes:

 

 

Besides...all wagons have a hatch...in a back...junk in the trump  therefore are hatchback'd. But not hatchbacks.

 

 

:retard:

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Drew Dowdell    4,999

:scratchchin:

 

I know...and I respect your opinions, but to me the Bolt is a wagon. A great wagon tho. But not in the traditional sense. Too tall to be a traditional hatch like Focus, Elantra, Cruze, Mazda 3 hatches... too car-like small to be a crossover...too big to be a compact car...reasonable cargo space, buttoned down like a sedan....it's a wagon in the new sense, and some somewhere, like the writer of the article kinda can agree, but not the dictionary definition!!!

 

 

:yes:

 

 

Besides...all wagons have a hatch...in a back...junk in the trump  therefore are hatchback'd. But not hatchbacks.

 

 

:retard:

 

No... hatchbacks and wagons have two different definitions.   That's why VW makes a Golf hatchback and a Golf Wagon. 

 

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A wagon is a sedan length car with the roof extended back to the rear.  A hatchback is a sedan with most of the trunk chopped off. The angle of the rear glass has little to do with the definition either way. There are wagons with sharply sloped rear glass and there are hatches with vertical rear glass and vice versa. 

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surreal1272    677

 

:scratchchin:

 

I know...and I respect your opinions, but to me the Bolt is a wagon. A great wagon tho. But not in the traditional sense. Too tall to be a traditional hatch like Focus, Elantra, Cruze, Mazda 3 hatches... too car-like small to be a crossover...too big to be a compact car...reasonable cargo space, buttoned down like a sedan....it's a wagon in the new sense, and some somewhere, like the writer of the article kinda can agree, but not the dictionary definition!!!

 

 

:yes:

 

 

Besides...all wagons have a hatch...in a back...junk in the trump  therefore are hatchback'd. But not hatchbacks.

 

 

:retard:

 

No... hatchbacks and wagons have two different definitions.   That's why VW makes a Golf hatchback and a Golf Wagon. 

 

attachicon.gif2014-volkswagen-golf-wagon-side.jpg

attachicon.gif2015-volkswagen-golf-gti-side-view.jpg

 

 

A wagon is a sedan length car with the roof extended back to the rear.  A hatchback is a sedan with most of the trunk chopped off. The angle of the rear glass has little to do with the definition either way. There are wagons with sharply sloped rear glass and there are hatches with vertical rear glass and vice versa. 

 

Exactly. Don't know why some have to create some imaginary scenario in order to split hairs over something that doesn't require hair splitting. There are obvious differences between a hatchback and a wagon. Thanks for pointing that out Drew.

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:scratchchin:

 

I know...and I respect your opinions, but to me the Bolt is a wagon. A great wagon tho. But not in the traditional sense. Too tall to be a traditional hatch like Focus, Elantra, Cruze, Mazda 3 hatches... too car-like small to be a crossover...too big to be a compact car...reasonable cargo space, buttoned down like a sedan....it's a wagon in the new sense, and some somewhere, like the writer of the article kinda can agree, but not the dictionary definition!!!

 

 

:yes:

 

 

Besides...all wagons have a hatch...in a back...junk in the trump  therefore are hatchback'd. But not hatchbacks.

 

 

:retard:

 

No... hatchbacks and wagons have two different definitions.   That's why VW makes a Golf hatchback and a Golf Wagon. 

 

attachicon.gif2014-volkswagen-golf-wagon-side.jpg

attachicon.gif2015-volkswagen-golf-gti-side-view.jpg

 

 

A wagon is a sedan length car with the roof extended back to the rear.  A hatchback is a sedan with most of the trunk chopped off. The angle of the rear glass has little to do with the definition either way. There are wagons with sharply sloped rear glass and there are hatches with vertical rear glass and vice versa. 

 

Exactly. Don't know why some have to create some imaginary scenario in order to split hairs over something that doesn't require hair splitting. There are obvious differences between a hatchback and a wagon. Thanks for pointing that out Drew.

 

..and a wagon almost always has a rear quarter window...can't think of any right off that don't have one.  Hatchbacks may or may not have one (like the Golf doesn't have one, but the Focus does). 

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