GM is weird.  Sometimes they'll have a car out as soon as January of one year prior to model year and then you get 18 months of a model year's production. Other times it will be December before it goes on sale and then quickly switch in May or June. The Envision's first model year was only about 3 months long. 

Most of the incentives i am seeing are on 17s.  The vast majority of 18s are just hitting lots.  The problem with the ram has been demand outstrips production capacity, an issue that will be fixed with the all new 19 model which will gain an additional factory (imho, real reason the 200/dart were killed was to make more capacity for building trucks, much like GM did in the 90s with the B-bodies).  Also, the money issues are not as bad as people let on, in fact they made 2.1B profit last quarter and stock prices are on the rise. 

20 hours ago, Stew said:

 

 

20 hours ago, Stew said:

Not on a Buick

If Buick recreates a proper modern version of this, you can bet your ass they will.

 

1 hour ago, Stew said:

Most of the incentives i am seeing are on 17s.  The vast majority of 18s are just hitting lots.  The problem with the ram has been demand outstrips production capacity, an issue that will be fixed with the all new 19 model which will gain an additional factory (imho, real reason the 200/dart were killed was to make more capacity for building trucks, much like GM did in the 90s with the B-bodies).  Also, the money issues are not as bad as people let on, in fact they made 2.1B profit last quarter and stock prices are on the rise. 

We call that a “fire sale” where I come from since it is well known that Sergio is trying to dump some of the brands but whatever you have to tell yourself.

 

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1 hour ago, Stew said:

Most of the incentives i am seeing are on 17s.  The vast majority of 18s are just hitting lots.  The problem with the ram has been demand outstrips production capacity, an issue that will be fixed with the all new 19 model which will gain an additional factory (imho, real reason the 200/dart were killed was to make more capacity for building trucks, much like GM did in the 90s with the B-bodies).  Also, the money issues are not as bad as people let on, in fact they made 2.1B profit last quarter and stock prices are on the rise. 

Incentives already available for 2018 RAMs. Up to $2,000 cash allowance.

 

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That's actually pretty low for the oldest truck on the market.  The 2018's are the last year for this generation of Ram, so I would expect incentives to be high. 

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

That's actually pretty low for the oldest truck on the market.  The 2018's are the last year for this generation of Ram, so I would expect incentives to be high. 

Considering the 2018s just came out, I was a little surprised. Those will certainly increase though since it will be the last year. 

7 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Considering the 2018s just came out, I was a little surprised. Those will certainly increase though since it will be the last year. 

There were practically no changes for the 2018s. They're just using up parts at this point.