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It's an 'open quantity' 10-yr contract with an initial advance of $462 million, for a guaranteed volume between 50K and 165K vehicles.

The current fleet of Grumman LLV mail trucks were built between '87 & '94, designed for a 24-yr lifespan (which they've all exceeded). Those use the GM 'Iron Duke' 4-cylinder/THM 3-spd trans.

The next generation Oshkosh trucks will be powered by a mix of battery-electric and low-emission internal combustion powertrains. They're also getting A/C, automatic braking, collision avoidance & 360-degree cameras. 

No word yet from D.C. regarding their announced forward policy of 'replacing all government fleet vehicles with electrics'.

Oshkosh beat out Karsan & Workhorse on the contract.

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Function over form.  It looks small but big enough. Nimble.  

Looks like the postal worker need not leave the truck to deliver mail in that mail box.  I guess when the situation and mail box allows that to happen.

Just to compliment that military pic, Ill do one of my one too.  

This 'Hog' of  plane is one ugly mother, but it does its one job very, very VERYwell! 

Function over form

Pin em Flight

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1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

Looks like the postal worker need not leave the truck to deliver mail in that mail box.

Is this a Canada thing? All my life, carriers with a vehicle always reach out the window for mailboxes.

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18 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Is this a Canada thing? All my life, carriers with a vehicle always reach out the window for mailboxes.

That would be the case if the neighborhood has curbside mailboxes.   In my neighborhood, they park their ancient Grumman trucklet and walk up and down the street on both sides to deliver to the mailboxes (which are either attached to the house or like mine, a mailslot by the front door).    Usually make separate passes for packages vs. letter mail. 

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Like Olds said, it's certainly function over form and it ought to be if it's on our dime. I can guarantee the carriers themselves will LOVE having HVAC finally. 

I'd like to know a little more about these powertrain options though. What kind of hybrid/EV will it be? What kind of range(if EV)? 

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2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Like Olds said, it's certainly function over form and it ought to be if it's on our dime. I can guarantee the carriers themselves will LOVE having HVAC finally. 

 

I remember chatting w/ my mail carrier in Phoenix some years ago, he said the old Grummans would get really hot inside in the summer (and sometimes would catch fire and get hotter). 

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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Is this a Canada thing? All my life, carriers with a vehicle always reach out the window for mailboxes.

My neighborhood has two types, the walk up to each door to put the mail in the door slot and the grouping of mail boxes where the mail man can drive up and reach out the window to put the mail in the box.

I do wish the USPS would change all the old neighborhoods to grouped mailboxes for better efficiency. The days of walking to each home is way too inefficient and the home owners can walk to the post box for their group of mailboxes. This would save a ton of time

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1 minute ago, David said:

 

I do wish the USPS would change all the old neighborhoods to grouped mailboxes for better efficiency. The days of walking to each home is way too inefficient and the home owners can walk to the post box for their group of mailboxes. This would save a ton of time

I like the convenience of the mail slot.  Don't have to go outside to get my mail..  Walking to a grouped box would be tedious, esp. in winter.  Plus walking door to door gives the delivery people the opportunity to get exercise.

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3 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

I like the convenience of the mail slot.  Don't have to go outside to get my mail..  Walking to a grouped box would be tedious, esp. in winter.  Plus walking door to door gives the delivery people the opportunity to get exercise.

While I can understand the convenience for the household, it is not efficient in this modern world and today, with running billion dollar deficit's, the USPS needs to get more efficient. This would take a burden off the tax payers.

Plus why not have more exercise for the home owners?

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Isn’t the USPS deficit due to pension underfundment, not operational costs?

Also, nothing - short of segments of the military - run by the Gov’t is efficient. Those 2 things are mutually exclusive.

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2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Isn’t the USPS deficit due to pension underfundment, not operational costs?

Also, nothing - short of segments of the military - run by the Gov’t is efficient. Those 2 things are mutually exclusive.

From looking at their own reporting both pension funds and guaranteed pay increases and benefit increases. It will take an act of congress to really fix things here including changing old static ways to more 21st century modern ways including removal of all old physical walking mail delivery and moving to modern grouped mail box areas.

GAO-19-157SP, HIGH-RISK SERIES: Substantial Efforts Needed to Achieve Greater Progress on High-Risk Areas

U.S. GAO - High Risk: USPS Financial Viability

Interesting outside group is pushing for a modern change at the USPS.

CAGW Leads Coalition Letter to USPS Board of Governors | Council For Citizens Against Government Waste (ccagw.org)

USPS Ends Another Fiscal Year With Billion-Dollar Losses | Citizens Against Government Waste (cagw.org)

To quote from this 2019:

Even more concerning is that large portion of the USPS’ losses are outside of the management’s control.  This includes a $3.5 billion increase in workers’ compensation costs, $994 million in contractual pay increases, and $320 million in retirement benefits expenses “due largely to the higher amortization costs of unfunded benefits.” However, even if the uncontrollable losses are removed from the net loss calculation, the USPS still ran a $3.4 billion deficit for FY 2019.  “We continued to make progress in the fiscal year in containing expenses that are under management’s control,” said USPS Chief Financial Officer Joseph Corbett. “However, actions within the control of the Postal Service are not enough to return the Postal Service to financial health.”

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Simple- just quadruple the cost of all mailings & eliminate the loophole of 'fleet pricing' for mass mailings/advertising.
Tomorrow at the opening of business; a first class letter costs $2.20.

It's just like BE's- you gotta spend 2-4 times what you were used to, to 'save' something. Everyone loves doing that/can afford it; this is America!! 

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8 hours ago, balthazar said:

Is this a Canada thing? All my life, carriers with a vehicle always reach out the window for mailboxes.

I dont know...

Ive never seen a Canadian postal worker deliver mail straight out of his vehicle.

While its true that in my neighborhood, we got the group box thing going on, but even in the older parts of Montreal, the mail slots are at the dwelling itself.  No curbside mailboxes like in the older parts of American suburbia where white picket fences reside that Ive seen...  Maybe they do exist in Quebec, and I know they do, but I havent seen postal workers work in these areas...

 

 

 

 

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