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Ordered this as a kit from over at the Home Depot website. Stained it last wknd and put it together this wknd.

Wife is interested in the i-Pace and we have a reservation at the Jag dealership to test drive one when they come in. Never know, while I respect that you do not like the style, the interior space is of a mid size SUV. It very well could be my first non-American auto if the wife likes it. Like @Drew Dowdell has stated, we have spouses that we also have to take into consideration. Happy wife, Happy life. She lets me have my expensive wine collection and home theater plus all the auto's I have bought have always been my choice. She is wanting something very green but nothing yet that interests her. I have committed to her that the next auto is her's to make. That plus I did loose a bet to her and owe her a auto of her choice. So the next one will be EV of her choice. I do know that if Cadillac made an Electric Escalade, we would own one today.

What- is the planet supposed to just SIMMER until she makes up her mind or you start to shrink from old age??

Green, Sure, I do not drive a green auto, but then there is nothing that my spouse wants to drive yet or that fits me. On Green, I recycle everything, biweekly my recycle is two 128 gallon recycle cans. I only have 16 gallon garbage as everything else is composted and yard waste to the larger compost place here in Washington state. I grow a garden and am very sustainable with year round basic veggies such as carrots, variety of lettuce, beets, etc. in my green house. My house is level 2 green certified as when I bought this 1952 built split level, I gutted it, replaced windows, doors, and taking it down to the studs allowed me to update the electrical, run conduit for my network and insulate all walls including interior walls and flooring between the two levels so that I use minimal power and natural gas. Then rather than using basic standard 1/2" sheet rock, I used 1" sheet rock adding to the R value. My wife and I both believe if we do not take care of the planet for ourselves and our future generations, there will be no planet to live on. At the rate we are going, the future could end up being the following movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319262/

PRE-FWD disaster, they were also known as X-bodies. Nova, Ventura/Phoenix, Omega, Apollo/Skylark RWD were designated X-Body.

There is no plug-in Malibu hybrid. I mentioned Fusion Energi by name. I would have thought you'd know the difference since you know so much about EVs and PHEVs?

At the moment, there aren't EVs that I can both afford and have a desire to own. I'd really like an XC90 PHEV or CT6 PHEV, but until you write me a check @ocnblu, I'll have to make due with my regular internal combustion cars. And that highlights the current problem with PHEVs. With few exceptions (Fusion Energi, Pacifica Hybrid) most are either econobox tiny little things with nothing in the way of creature comfort or full zoot Platinum Executive Signature Autobiography, Excellence top of the line models that few people can afford. I liked the Pacifica powertrain so much I actually floated the idea to Albert who promptly shot it down for being a minivan. If they put that in a FWD crossover and called it the Aspen, they'd have a huge hit on their hands. The choices in PHEVs is still pretty terrible without even considering the powertrain. Of the ones in the affordable range, only the Fusion could be sold at home. Physician, heal thyself. Until you've driven them regularly, you have no basis for which to knock on them. So unless you want that rule applied to you as well......

Pricing on the Envision is still too high. It's hard to make a good case for it when the Terrain sits in the same lot and has a better base powertrain while feeling roomier. I'm a Buick guy and I'd still probably pick a Terrain Denali over an Envision due to the pricing of Envision.

I personally doubt that Cadillac will actually disappear at all, unless GM itself goes under. Only exception to that rule would probably be the Corvette. As for raising MSRPs and then creating incentives, GM has not backslid to the "move the metal" era that led to BK nine years ago. I agree that the whole "incentive a month" plan is long-term stupid and that needs to actually end, especially since we have reached peak auto sales in the last two years. As long as ATPs are up and stay up, profits and cash flow will follow. Of course, GM will have to trim back production somewhat so that the specter of "move the metal" does not return with a vengeance.

Then Pontiac would have also been selling 1.4 and 1.5 litre turbo cars too, to bow to the gods of CAFE like Chevy has had to. Lots of CVT equipped next ever G6's...... May have been best that Pontiac was let to die rather than the 'first ever G2' crossover....... or more Vibes

The town and country was a lease. My buyout was pretty high but i was surprised to see the market values on the Chrysler vans seemed to be up there. Not in trade perhaps, but buying used. Good to see you got to use yours for minimal $$$. I wasn't gonna buy my three year old. Payments would have been pretty high and it made sense to just lease again. If vans and Chryslers held their value more on trade maybe buying would work for me but i don't want to hang onto a minivan for a long time. Like you mentioned, despite the utility and all the good packaging, the next time around we may go back to the SUV. The value per dollar with the van now is huge. Yes, tremendous trip vehicle. the front seats are great. Your mpg is close to what we get. in fact it gets better with age. LAst trip return leg we got 31+ with four on board. CRAZY. BUt i agree the DIC is optimistic by about the same amount you say.

Why put any brakes on forward progress? Why doesn't CA: 1. ban all gas & diesel vehicles, not only new sales but existing ownership, effectively Jan 1 2019 2. mandate ONLY full EV vehicles 3. invoke a 100 MPG standard anyway 4. build EV charging stations, 1 per square mile minimum, as the #1 infrastructure priority, to be completed by Jan 1 2020 5. establish a tax-funded general fund to compensate IC vehicle owners for cratered IC vehicle values (about 30M in CA) 6. establish a tax-funded general fund to cover rush development of over-the-road EV semi trucks in order to maintain the flow of commerce in & out of the state. In the meantime, on-road goods shipments must be hauled by EV-powered vehicles effective immediately... so in a fraction of the load size per vehicle. Also : https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/California-s-electricity-grid-is-changing-fast-12885084.php

Face it; 54 MPG by '26 is not going to be achievable. It's not a matter of "rolling back" it's not"falling behind", it's simply way too short of a timeline. Eventually, given enough time, R&D and the very gradual movement of consumer preference/education, 54 IS possible (with enough EVs), but the timeline is unrealistic. Look at the world's leading EV manufacturer, Tesla- TEN YEARS of car production, and they MAY exceed 100K units in the US this year. Chevy is on track to sell 150K Malibus here, alone. Ever since the prius thingie circa '97, we've had at least electrical contribution to personal conveyances. But EV/PHEV still hovers around a mere 2% of all sales. After 20 years. People who think a state can ban IC and force the other (on average) 98% immediately into an electric MEANWHILE torpedo'ing their existing IC vehicle's value into the ground, are being obtuse.

This is like if Power Wheels came out with an unlicensed Jeep ride on toy. Same idea, just larger.

Nothing more bumming than having to leave your car in a parking lot because no one can pick it up until morning...... Drove it all over today, but the fuel pump in the Cobalt finally died this evening. No prime in the parking lot. This after giving it a car wash.....

Yes, the rest of the world will advance without us. We are no longer special or essential for global progress. On a larger scale, our economy will suffer for it.