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GM definitely did the right thing in pricing the diesel engine not the highest priced engine by a couple grand like Ford and Ram did.

nissan is quickly joining mitsubishi in the ‘who gives a sh*t category.’ every car they make is outclassed by hyundai, and the only thing they’ve learned to do better than korea is having even more obnoxious dealers loudly proclaiming: ‘BUY HERE PAY HERE NO CREDIT BAD CREDIT NO CARE DRIVE AWAY TODAY IN A BRAND NEW PRE-OWNED SENTRA SL THE SL STANDS FOR SUPER LOW PRICES OF JUST EIGHTY FOUR PAYMENTS OF NINETY NINE NINETY NINE NINETY NINE NINETY NINE LOOK FOR THE FLAGS AT EXIT 88 OFF THE INTERSTATE ROD GOZINYA’S NISSAN FREE HOT DOG LUNCH EVERY WEDNESDAY MILITARY SERVICEMEMBERS GET OUR THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE DISCOUNT A THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE DISCOUNT GETS YOU HALF OFF DOC FEES IT’S OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE RECENTLY DIVORCED RECENTLY DECEASED GET YOUR LIFE BACK ON TRACK PUSH, PULL OR DRAG YOUR CAR TO ROD GOZINYA’S NISSAN TODAY AND GET $2,000 TOWARDS A NEW NISSAN ALTIMA JUST EIGHTY FOUR EASY PAYMENTS LOOK FOR THE FLAGS AT EXIT 88 BY THE INTERSTATE!’

Can Nissan go, as a whole? Please.

Every single car will have some sort of electrification in the medium term future. Most, if not all, new platforms coming out are set up with electrification in mind. Even if it is as simple as the Ram eTorque setup.

Leaf is down 10% YTD?? Don't folks recognize progress when they see it? 6000 units out of 654,000 units is 9/10ths of 1 percent. Perhaps it needs to be circled in red too.

An Encore is 168" long- there's no one for whom that CUV size is 'too big'.

I forget where I read it, but the C8 was built with electrification in mind.

I have a feeling they designed the platform to be adaptable to Hybrid or EV down the road. The competition are all offering Hybrid and EV sports cars...

Seems very short-sighted thinking on the Detroit 3's part. I don't see the Japanese and Korean companies getting out of the sedan market. When the CUV/SUV fad fades, the Detroit 3 are going to be hurting due their usual short-sighted thinking...

I have always agreed with Brother 'blu on this one ; even tho I seldom gravitate towards Chevy cars, this Mitchell-overseen design is one of the most beautiful coupes ever penned.

Saw this gnarly Ford project car sitting one street over...

It is a shame. A RWD Impala/Caprice would be fabulous.

Jeep, Jeep, classic on the left and new on the right. Jeep.is everywhere, old and new.

GM is simply looking to commit suicide another way than Ford is. Ford is in for a major surprise when truck sales slide...better hope they have some EVs..... I realize some cars have to go. But GM does things half assedd like they normally do. Realizing folks like bigger things, common sense says you get rid of the small stuff (Spark, Sonic) and things you have double of (impala) but keep your higher volume stuff (Malibu, Cruze) especially since the Cruze comes in two (sedan, hatch). And, we could have EV versions on both as well, so folks have lower cost EV choices. Thing GM needs to see just how dumb that is going to be...... Ease up on the fine spirits there kind sir... If they are killing them off like that-the economy is going to be in much bigger shambles that I thought. More than likely, any replacements like be full EVs.....

New rule at C&G: every stinking thread has to include a post by dfelt mentioning EV. EVERY.STINKING.THREAD.

Juke is already dead in the US, but not overseas. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sentra go.

Yet, GM does NOT sell it in the rest of the Asian rim. It would sell and is a perfect size and I agree it is NOT too big, yet with that said, those small asian countries would need to open up to GM selling it there. There is great control over the story of what the local population is told and what works and does not work for them. They sell this that America SUV/CUV are too big and as such, people are lied to and led to believe that is why they cannot sell them there not the truth that the local gov is controlling what they can and cannot buy. The compact CUV's that American auto companies build will fit and sell just fine if they are allowed into those places, Full size trucks and SUV's not so much.

Guys...

I mean Ford has the Mustang and GT and Chevy has the Camaro and Corvette.. But who's counting? And Caddy has or will have CT variants that are sports cars.

That's what 'they' said about pickups… in 1970. Hyundai was 100% cars when it arrived here, it's now only 56% cars (by volume YTD) and that number has been slipping for years (both at hyundai/kia and industry-wide). CUVs / SUVs are firmly-established; calling them a 'fad' ignores decades of consumer data. Objectively speaking, the industry at large would be best served morphing a combination of the family sedan and the CUV (which is already the same underneath). All the brands have too many physically different models- with a morphed FutureKar, developmental costs would come way down and perhaps -just perhaps- some degree of control on runaway prices could be realized.

“Don’t just chime in for the sake of it” Like how you just did with your first trolling post? And you wouldn’t know progress if it slapped you upside the head with a solid state battery. Your comment was pure hyperbole and trolling nonsense as always.

Ford also priced their F-150 diesels too high for people to make the jump. I think GM did the right thing by keeping the diesel upgrade cost low.

I would be cool with a Jeep Grand Cherokee......

Saw a blue and white Corvair Greenbrier pickup and white Volvo P1800 coupe. Both very clean. Saw a funny accident—-a Prius has rear ended a late model black Tacoma. What was funny was the Tacoma had a huge ‘REDNECK NATION’ logo on the rear window. A poser I guess, I don’t think real rednecks drive Toyotas.

What a lame ass counter statement but then again, that’s nothing new coming from a known anti-progress troll.

The base Tacoma has no power, I bet Toyota could put an Avalon Hybrid powertrain in there and make it just as capable and get over 30 mpg.

Chrysler 300. Chevy Impala. Dodge Charger. Lincoln Aviator. Lincoln Corsair. Ford Explorer. Chevy Traverse. Dodge Durango. Cadillac XT4. Cadillac XT5. Jeep Grand Cherokee.

One big thing I noticed was no stow and go. Bench seat could be okay, if it comes out easy..... Think it would be cool if they did something slight different with the voyager, like maybe giving it a sporty “expresso: package.....

This kinda renders the mid-size trucks irrelevant.

wow.. did i just read that on second thought i know a few that drive nissans hmmmmmmmm

Those numbers are simply amazing for a full-size truck. Hell, those would be great for a mid-size truck. There haven't been test for this yet, have there? I hope it isn't as slow as the Ram. I don't think it would be as it's more powerful on a much lighter truck. If it's a 15.5 second 1/4 mile truck(or better), that would be freakin' great. 16.0 is about the bare minimum, imo.

This is bloody beautiful as a pure electric C7 Corvette with 175 mile range, 789bhp / 700lb-ft of torque in a lovely blue color. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-ces/corvette-based-genovation-gxe-220mph-electric-car-shown-ces

So Ford and GM’s game plan is to put everything into pickups, SUVs and 1 sports car each, after giving up on minivans and sedans. Meanwhile the Asian car companies are stealing crossover/SUV business off Ford and GM and Toyota has new trucks coming and Hyundai and Kia are doing pickups. You can only retreat for so long until you run out of places to retreat to.

by the time the SUV/CUV fad fades, the market will have shifted more to EVs and autonomous vehicles... and who know what those will look like. Rolling toasters probably.

Don't just chime in for the sake of it, surreal. You know damn well it would never work, and it was posted purely to troll the thread. "Progress" can only be termed as such when it actually changes something for the better.

With the advances in solid state battery technology and the design changes that have recently been discovered and are under heavy testing like from XNRGI I see a couple sedans still in the Chevrolet portfolio, but EV focused.

Glad to hear this, yet I do wonder what that production number for this year really is. I do wonder how long before GM adds a Hybrid or EV to the Corvette portfolio.

Obiwon you seem to have remembered well, seems the frame is more bolted together than welded to allow for hybrid and electrification. Some very interesting reads as I searched for info on this. https://www.gm.com/masthead-story/mid-engine-corvette-EVs.html https://www.topspeed.com/cars/here-s-what-nobody-is-telling-you-about-the-2020-chevy-c8-corvette-stingray-ar186096.html https://paultan.org/2019/07/22/c8-chevrolet-corvette-could-get-electrification-report/ https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-chevrolet-corvette-could-get-hybrid-or-electric-versions https://carbuzz.com/news/check-out-this-c7-vs-c8-corvette-side-by-side-comparison

I bet in 5 year pa GM and Ford are cutting the Encore, Trax, Trailblazer, Ecosport, etc to “focus on more profitable models” and Equinox and Escape will be the base models, and post 2025 they might kill them off too if the RAV4 crushes the market the way the Camry did to the sedan market.