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I dont think a start-up EV company will be ever capable of delivering a low-priced, mainstream BEV for the masses. The technology is just too expensive to manufacture. Add to the equation an industry that TAKES billions of dollars JUST to get going and the result is what we are experiencing right now with EVs priced the way they are no matter who is producing them. Yes. Im on your side Balthy when it comes to the idea that BEVs NEED to be priced at or below 30 thousand for them to succeed and perhaps overtake conventional gasoline powered vehicles. The thing is though, the industry going forward has put a MAJOR kink in the idea that : a) ICE vehicles have a chance in surviving the next century b) consumers will actually have a say in what THEY want to drive between ICEVs or BEVs on the account that, as you have put it, Gov't know-nothings and OEM mouthpieces have AND social justice warriors have decided the future for all of us. And THAT future is that the internal combustion engine is done for. And unfortunately for us North Americans, especially for (United States of) Americans, this phenomenon is GREATER than what we could control. Its OUT of our hands. And why I said its unfortunate for Americans, is that, for possibly the first time since WW2, The US does NOT have a global influence on this to DICTATE how its going to be. You Americans have been accustomed to be the uncontested influencer on pop culture, on the political environment, on car trends, on food trends, on musical trends on movies and fashion. But this banning of the ICE has taken a life on its own and its on a GLOBAL level. On a global level that the US really has NO say. The good news out of ALL of this, is that Tesla, an American company seems to be on the forefront of this change and the WORLD does NOT seem to mind. The other good news is that BECAUSE GM is as BIG as it is...and FoMoCo, and STILL has some global influence, GM and FoMoCo COULD be the manufacturers that COULD deliver a cost effective, priced to be low, reliable, not a penalty box EV for the masses. BECAUSE of their other high fallutin' brands such as GMC and Cadillac and Lincoln, that Ford and Chevy could take advantage of. Plus their century old experience in manufacturing, engineering and selling cars. It really does NOT matter what % of market share EVs hold in 2020 or in 2021 or even in 2025 versus their ICE counterparts. The switch WILL be made to EVs whether we want it or not. Whether it be in 2025 or 2055. THIS is why Tesla will NEVER go down despite where there so called profits come from. Tesla holds 3 advantages over EVERYBODY else: 1. Their technology versus every other EV wannabe maker is DECADES in front of everybody else in certain cases and 5 years for other cases. They are the leaders. 2. Their charging infrastructure is second to none and is ALL over the world and they actually OWN their charging infrastructure... 3. People ALL over the world COVET the Tesla brand and the vehicles they produce. The ONLY thing bringing down GM, IMO, is that maybe people wont be coveting Cadillac Lyriqs and GMC Hummers and Chevy Bolts... It seems that FoMoCo's Mustang Mach E has the tech to at least be on PAR with Tesla products, the charging infrastructure lets it down, but that is a trivial thing that could EASILY be assessed with a better support system with those OEMs that are partnered with that charging infrastructure. Im on the understanding that VW and GM are also partners as well as Ford. That is a lot of potential money for upgrades and upkeeps... If Tesla could take care of that side of EV business, there is no reason why this should fail for FoMoCo, GM, VW, Volvo, BMW etc... And DESPITE the Mustang Mach E having a "controversial" name being called...Mustang, Im assuming many people have overlooked that and are considering it... Its a start for an EV to at least have people LOOK away and start considering OTHER EVs OTHER than Teslas... Again, something in my heart believes that GM will NOT have that with people. Something tells me that Cadillac and GMC are going to fall flat with consumer acceptance. NOT because of the tech, BUT because of the brand and logo BEHIND the tech... But...I really do NOT thing it will be a LONGER gestation period for EVs to become mainstream. When government know-nothings from ALL OVER THE WORLD are in AGREEMENT, AND OEMS of the WORLD are ALSO on the same page, (VW, GM, Mercedes, FoMoCo, Volvo, BMW) smart ideas DO start to shape and things DO actually start to happen in the RIGHT direction... Its still early to really predict what will happen. But we ALL know one thing though. The push to eliminate the internal combustion engine is real. And its coming like a freight train towards us...2 points
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I did not state 'never'. But based on the last 2 decades, the current scenario, and the very like near-future EV vehicles, the pricing is still way too high. Were 50% of the near-future BEVs priced around $30K, I'd have no point. But they aren't. I keep waiting for the announcement of a credible near-future start-up coming in in the volume portion of the industry. While I know well that Apple products aren't 'cheap', I would've had some hope that a BE AppleKar would somehow be in that range, given how pervasive Apple phones are. Perhaps Ford & GM WILL offer a range of median-priced BEVs, I think they have a good possibility there... but GM at least makes billions in profit, so they have the financial leverage to lose money on EVs. Startups coming in green have no fall-back, hence they start their pricing at $75,000. >>Tesla is at the top of EVs in sales, tech and charging infrastructure. They wont be collapsing anytime soon...<< You realize Tesla, overall, is in the red, and that the scant recent profits are primarily driven by selling credits, not by seeing a margin of profit on the actual vehicles? Without the backing of a billionaire and a ridiculous stock price revenue stream, it'd already BE dead. I make no prediction on Tesla's future; I tend to agree it'll keep sputtering along, but time will tell. I have limited interest in what goes on globally because I live in North America. But it's a distinct market, and an important market, why else is every global automaker in or trying to get in? And while American companies number just 2, the American market is dozen & a half (or more). I have a problem calling going from 100% IC to 98.4% IC in 23 years "an ever shrinking market'. But GM has repeatedly stated they're going all EV (despite the recent GMC head stating they would NOT). My point all along on this has been it's going to take a LOT LONGER than analysts, Gov't know-nothings and OEM mouthpieces say it will.2 points
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Sadly scary, but true. While I do not see the US pushing out ICE any time soon-I do see many countries quickly fazing out most all ICE models. It also helps that most of these countries are way ahead in preparing, like public charging stations and EV public transportation Might be moving too fast though.....2 points
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I love these two SkyLines, probably just about the best version Japan has built. Current one is a Blah let down IMHO. R33 and R34 are the best looking.1 point
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I would agree that the review is from Canada. The North American Charging network is a mix as you find plenty of charging points on the west coast, a base start on the East Coast and little in the mid-west but they all are growing. Going to be very interesting in 2025 when we should have over 60 EVs on the market in North America.1 point
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I get the feeling we will see a price increase in gas in the not too far future. US politics right now prove that the government is more worried about money and Wall Street than the American people. If real money can be made on EVs, our own government will find a way to make it happen....1 point
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You are on the assumption that BEs will never be produced using an affordable for everyone business model. Eventually, a) All that tech will be paid for by early adopters. b) All that tech will be made affordable by the sheer amount of EVs produced FORCIBLY by the FACT that multiple nations/cities will be banning ICE in the near future. c) All that tech will eventually be produced by a company that has a business plan specifically tailored for the mainstream market. Chinese EV tech companies already exist specifically tailored for such a market... I didnt say these EVs are Tesla Model S and Model E equivalents which could resemble Duesenberg Model SJ and Bentley Blower equivalents of the 1920s and 1930s. The Chinese EVs are more like 1930s Fiat 500 Topolinos and VW Type 1 "Kafer" or Beetle to British and Americans... The Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan Leaf and Hyundai Kona are more akin to Ford Model As with a slightly higher price tag for the day that the Model A had. But the deal is that affordable EVs that are quite capable are ALREADY available without being penalized as if these were Fiat 500 Topolinos of the 1930s Italy driven around in 1930s America... A Ford Model A was THE hot rodders choice...and how I sees it, a Chevrolet Bolt drivetrain does very well with many folk that electrify their hot rod of choice... (I dont need to post former ICE vehicles that folk have decided to electrify with Chevy Bolt motors and batteries. I KNOW you know they exist) Prices are high for almost all EV entries as of now. The North American market is not a very good judge of what EV pricing will look like and you are basing this idea with North American pricing. Yes... I know we both live in North America... Problem is...the WORLD is shifting AWAY from EVs... No matter how strong the US car market is in sales/year as compared to other car markets of the world. There is a BIGGER car market in China. When you add Europe to that mixture and when you combine ALL the car manufactures that Asia and Europe has (and both markets are in FAVOUR (government mandated) of an ICE ban, and when you realize that American car companies are only 2, FoMoCo and GM... then Im surprised why you are NOT scared shytless about how slow the American car market (because even in Canada, we Canadians dont really mind going all EV) is adapting to this changing of the guard... But then again...GM is said to be going all out EVs. Tesla is American, so is Rivian... Like I said, there WILL be affordable EVs. YOU are just not seeing that right now because Americans are too much caught up in disinformation and shytty slogans rather than what REALLY is going on... Irony at its finest. Tesla is at the top of EVs in sales, tech and charging infrastructure. They wont be collapsing anytime soon... GM is said to be adapting to this new reality. GM MIGHT collapse if folk dont STOP buying Teslas to buy Chevrolet Bolts and Cadillac Lyriqs... Lets be honest, GM in North America, when Quebec, New York State, Ontario, California, British Columbia, Washington and others BAN new ICE car purchases in a decade or so from now, GM wont necessarily have enough sales with ICE to make it past Honda, Toyota and Hyundai with ICE sales in North America... In an ever shrinking ICE market in North America in 10 years from now, when Im assuming gasoline prices will be through the roof to DISCOURAGE the use of gasoline in cars, Im wondering how is it that GM survives solely on V8 powered Tahoes and Sierras? Catch-22... DO they ditch EVs or do they ditch ICE to capture lost market share? (to other EVs and to Toyota, Honda and Hyundai...a trend that continues to be a thing SINCE the 1970s...) Keep in mind that pick-up trucks are lucrative BECAUSE they also command high price tags... Kinda like how Tesla commands high price tags for THEIR EVs...1 point
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You have to have equivalent PRICE replacements to IC in order to move consumers over. Regardless of country. If a country/ city institutes a ban and the replacement BE segment is double the ATP, the segment is going to collapse. Saw that the Apple car is supposedly back on, but the piece I read had analysts projecting scenarios of a price of $75K to 100K. Seems at this point the assumptive model is still that BE’s are going to pretty much all be double IC vehicles. Someone who scrapes to afford a $30K altima cannot be forced to buy a $50K Model 3.1 point
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Ironically always missed; Tesla is ALSO scrambling to compete with established manufacturers in the transportation market.1 point
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Neat bike but he should be wearing gloves and a jacket...if he goes down....it won't be pretty. I love this build with the Corvair...1 point
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Harley is in trouble, cutting 30 ercent of their lineup. Neat video, and I love her stuff.1 point
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Exciting solar panel news. A berlin scientific group combined two types of solar cell technology and ended up with a solar panel getting 30% efficiency. In other words it captured the energy of the sun at a 30% success rate. One would ask why is that such a big deal? Current Solar Panels are only 19 to 20% efficient in capturing the sun's energy. A 10% increase in capture rate means more power and faster energy for recharging. The scientist also go on to say they believe they can increase the efficiency rate even more as they move forward in their research. Currently this will help to drive Solar Power energy capture to a much higher level. Scientists set a solar cell efficiency world record - Electrek First experience review of the Mustang Mach-E that is just now beginning to get delivered to dealerships.1 point
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