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A sleeper has to be significantly quicker than the eye or 90% of bystanders assume it is. Like this crap-box :

The downvotes are a a bastard of a thing... 1. A post not agreed with getting a downvote WITHOUT additional explanation is maddening... ESPECIALLY on a fact based post or thread If the downvoter could express his/her reasons as to why he disagrees, then a clear discussion arises and the whole point to the forums gets achieved... If not...its just trolling A troll gets to be exposed when PROPER discourse is being made. 2. If a downvote is being made on an OPINION piece...than that is just wrong. And kinda rude. Which again is just trolling by the downvoter. 3. Then a pattern gets established when a downvoter is CONSTANTLY downvoting. TROLLING gets to be the mantra of downvoting...all. the. time. In my honest opinion...TROLLING in a public forum is MORE detrimental than talking about politics or religion. IF PROPER discourse WITHOUT trolling is made, EVEN when politics and/or religion is THE main topic, then there are NO problems. (Im not even going to mention uneducated-ness and close mindedness because IF PROPER discourse is being made...then civilized discussions are being made...no PHOQUING NEED TO DOWNVOTE...) The up votes is yes...a feel good treat. Its human nature to feel good about things. A troll gets his goodies off by pi$$ing people off... Again...its OK to disagree...and to downvote...but PROPER discourse should ACCOMPANY a downvote. And a DECENT rebuttal should ensue. If not...its trolling. A whole bowl of not good...

Fun fact: Even though I know they were all over the place, I never came across one scorpion (they seemed to be a bigger problem on the east side of the valley whereas I lived on the west side) and the only rattlesnake I came across was dead in the road already. Weird, I know lol. Oh and great post about the ignorance of others btw.

Going into the mid-upper 40s beginning tomm, damn snow should really go down. It's prob about 8" in undisturbed areas. Will be thrilled to see it go. - - - - -

Shelby Cobra 427 Super Snake, Last of Its Kind, up for Auction (caranddriver.com)

^ '67 Mercury Cougar ad, and a Facel Vega in blue below it...

Seems like at least one person here proved you right but hey no explanation needed right? Yet if it was a video of a Clinton or Obama tower, you’d be upvoting it until your fingers bled thus proving the point about knee jerk reactions. Everyone else thought it was funny as hell btw so maybe the problem here is not the video, not the commentary, and not the person who shared it. There is also a certain irony here. The same person who replied with "speak Engrish" to someone whom he knows has a wife of Asian descent, complaining about "inflammatory" remarks. Step all the way off with that non-sense. Those are the facts here.

I only use up/down votes because you guys seem to get off on them. ?

2022 Rogue Sport is a good looking vehicle. I am currently afraid of Jeep because of deep-seated parts availability problems (we've had a Renegade in the shop for 6 months waiting on a wire harness that got destroyed, that is unacceptable).

Simple, if it is hybrid-only when it comes to the U.S., it will be off my list of potentials. Nissan USA has not said what will power our version.

Can’t wait for at least slightly warmer weather here soon. Snow has been okay, but it’s gotta go now.... Gotta get the work on my house started as soon as we can!

I figured out why I like the Lucid Air as much as I do. The C Pillar and rounded rear quarter panel remind me of a 4rth gen F-Body Firebird. Even if the rear quarter panel is soooo short on the Lucid and sooooo long on the Pontiac. The rake of the front windshields of both vehicles also seems to be the same angle which also lends to my illusion of sameness and hence why I like the Lucid Air...because I LOVE the 4rth gen F-Body. Its just a 4 door (EV) Trans Am in my eyes. OK...maybe its a far fetched figment of my imagination. But its still MY personal fantasy produced by MY brain that WAS NOT elicited by the use of recreational drugs, but from MY awesome natural intellect, mental capacity and wit. (Should I go with a smug emogi to show how my intelligence is somehow superior to yours? Or should I go with a hipster dufus emogi cheering to show how "innocent" I may be in the "real world"? ) Maybe Ill just go with a laughy emogi to show that this post is serious and funny at the same time instead!

Most people would not construe that comment as particularly inflammatory. It was a blighted casino that wasn't cutting it. Atlantic City, in general, doesn't measure up to what it should have been. Implosions are rare and complex events, requiring a lot of planning and with no room for error, so they're sort of nifty in a weird way. I've only seen one and it was that of the Kingdome in Seattle in 2000. Too bad, because I liked the Kingdome. Closer to your turf, the implosion of some stadium, possibly where the Eagles once played ... not sure, on the south side of Philly along the Delaware River was one of the more interesting ones, with the collapse following the circular form of the stadium. And you took my last comment incorrectly. It applies to a lot of people who react the same way when they can't back up anything discussing a weighty topic. So, in addition to you, it would be some ridiculous and not very enlightened friends of my late mom, a few clueless neighbors of mine, etc. I agree, Olds. It's that it's done consistently, as is the situation with the confused vote, and with no added commentary, which doesn't have to be present, but NEVER is. And it's done in a little kid, "cat ate the canary," smart-alecky sort of way.

Yes, the 2dr Facel Vega. There was a 4dr one also as you posted, and an earlier version with a more rounded roofline below (I've seen two of these earlier 2drs, never seen a 4dr or the later 2dr...it's the earlier 2dr in the pic w/ the Cougar billboard. I saw a silver 2dr and a white one at a Gooding & Co auction in Scottsdale maybe 5-7 years ago..

(wipes a gallon of drool off his chin)

I remember this thread. I flubbed it back then as I was tooo nerdy about the whole thing. Ill fix it. Chevrolet Bolt 149 kW of pure electric electricity and 360 Nm of pure neutral neutron torques. So a millennial could use the Bolt's navi system to get to the nearest Starbucks because regardless if that millennial drives by Starbucks EVERYDAY, he is more into shytty electronic gadgets than he is with sleepers anyway...

Just a random thought... EV conversions that I think are interesting...

Am I the only one who looks at this and thinks, I would believe an Oldsmobile badge on this?

Clearly the joke flew right over your head.

Not much snowfall this year up here. The snow on the ground is not as high as other years. Its high enough though as the last 4 of the 5 snowfalls have been 5-8 inches. But that is also in a span of 7-8 weeks. No little 2 inches here and there this year in between the hard snowfalls. But it HAS been cold. 5F to -1F the last 2 weeks straight. But then again, that kinda cold is usually from mid January and lasts up until the last week of February. With a small 1-3 day break where the temps will go 23F. So...not that bad considering its phoquing winter in Quebec. What I gather is the Montreal region this year is a heck of a lot calmer than the rest of North America. Not much snow as we Montrealers like to brag about and deem superior to ya'll because we are tough to endure winter climates. And it has been that way since a decade plus now. Maybe 20 years. OK...we've had some really really cold polar vortexes in that time span, but North America in general was hit hard too. Climate change has improved the Saint Lawrence valley's winter blues. I do NOT mind that one bit. LOL I cant wait for April to kick in. My WORST time of the year is...now. From the 2nd week of January up until mid April. Its cold. Snow gets on my nerves. March is schizophrenic. One day its winter with blizzards and cold snaps and the next its spring. Teasing you and then WHAM! back to winter with a snowstorm... April is when Im looking forward too. But even April sucks as its slushy and dirty from all that melting snow and the dirt and grime...YUCK! But at least by mid-April, one could smell spring and summer kicking in.

I am not asking you to buy another Nissan, surreal. I do know the Nissan Rogue has sold better than a certain transverse-engine, FWD/AWD Ford station wagon (which I like, btw) every model year it was sold.

So what I am gathering form the OP is either we get: Another carryover CVT and 4 pot, like its larger sibling which has already been widely decided as being complete s***. or A hybrid, which certainly can be “no worse” than a CVT operated ICE that it will replace, but which the OP will no longer want. And he wonders why some folks would never take car buying advice from him. Thanks for the pure comedy gold, is all I have to say!

No one cares...the transverse 4cyl shit dominates the mass market, we all know that. GM builds loads of them (even as Cadillacs), Ford builds loads of them, Jeep sells loads of them at the low end. Hyundai/Kia sells loads of them, etc. Just a bunch of forgettable appliances...no real distinction between brands, no point in talking about them, as they are about as exciting as moldy white bread and spoiled milk. I couldn't care less as long as Jeep still builds proper SUVs, and the Bronco looks like it will be a proper SUV.

Meh, the difference is insignificant...two FWD/transverse 4cyl CVT mediocre appliances...same shit ingredients, different size. Nothing of significance...

Yeah, looks like another week of snow ahead here, but temps in the 30s-40s. Was down to 7F last night, but I think the really cold is over here...looking forward to March.

This WAS a thread about the 2022 Rogue Sport, which is an entirely different vehicle than the Rogue. The fact that some of you are blurring the lines between the two shines a light on ignorance. Also, while the new Qashqai is a mild hybrid in other markets, Nissan has NOT SAID what type of powertrain it will offer in the USA, so to ASSUME it will continue with the 2.0... when we don't know, well, that is faulty thinking.

Some implosions are better than others ...

Everyone makes spelling mistakes and yet you edited the original sentence of what I stated, YOU TROLLED to bully a person about his spelling and change the sentence to what you wanted to bully about. Clearly you just need to stay in your own closet of ignorance since you have to hide who you really are, attack others needlessly, attack technology you cannot seem to comprehend nor understand how to embrace change. As I stated As you edited to attack on You make fun of people due to them not agreeing with your narrow view of life. You now have also chosen to attack those that have English as a second language since Asian's have a hard time with R's, L's and just about any English word that requires a roll of their tong. We have had so much ignorance and attacks in this country over the last 5 years due to IGNORANCE and HATERED of all things not American and you speak of being American, Buy American, etc. etc. etc. and yet you talk about how much better a Japanese designed and sold CUV is over the gm Chevrolet Bolt. You attack those that do not support your political choices, we have gone on and been scolded by @Drew Dowdell for the politics, warned to not go there and yet you TROLL about peoples choices as we all attempt to stay on Auto's. You embrace the Cancel Culture that does not agree with your views. Your internal hatred is so strong I feel for your own ignorance as you attack those that disagree with you. In a Multi-Cultural world, so much beauty, love, desire and yes amazing technology is created when we embrace the differences rather than attack those differences. I am far from perfect, I never will be perfect, but I will accept technology change, I will accept the fact that we can agree to disagree about products, food, music, art, etc. I never will expect you to understand or embrace anything I like as that requires one opening up their mind to experience differences. Live in your bubble, talk about things you like and find peace within yourself to love yourself and enjoy your ICE world as I will never take it away from you. I promise you I will enjoy my ICE world till the time comes that I can get my EV's and enjoy them. Peace to you and your dark blackness of life you seem to live in as I have so much to enjoy, living each day to the fullest. Find that part of you that you can dwell on with a Cup half full rather than the negative life your living in the attitude of a glass half empty.

Yet the Profits for you Rogue go to Japan compared to the profits from the Bolt stay in the US!

BE's take a LOT less R&D, right? Reality disconnect / wishful thinking; we're halfway thru the '21 MY already. Market share now is below 2% in the U.S., 4% globally, and peaked in 2018. Never see that kind of market penetration that quickly (8.5 years). Consumers aren't interested in suddenly paying 50%more for their next vehicle. That's FAR more significant & real than a drag strip time.

Moving to EV won't cause a drop in sales, building bad cars will. Electric propulsion is superior to a gasoline drivetrain. Going EV is the right move, but all their competitors will also, so I don't see what changes for Jaguar. The Germans will still build better cars than them.

Jag is going to cut it's sales by 90%.

And the Rogue is a “great value” so long as you don’t add any real options to it. Below is for a FWD Rogue and you have to be swilling bong water to pay $36K for a FWD four pot with a CVT. Oh, I’m not disagreeing with your assessment but a dose of his own medicine was clearly in order here. If he wants to back a half baked foreign made product, thats on him. That doesn’t mean that everyone has to fall in lock step over it and support his gushing behavior.

Tiny, capable things like this are adorable as heck.

Simple, no comparison when you go AWD between the two, but the point was the 0 to 60 in FWD and the comments of CVT versus single speed EV and I believe the point was that a heavier bolt was faster and still responded better than the CVT. If they added AWD to the Bolt, then you could go there in comparison even with the price spread. Personal preference will always trump price for people. Some people very well could like the Bolt at the higher price over the FWD Rogue Sport. Their choice. Agree with you that the Equinox, RAV4, Escape and CR-V are all better comparisons and options to this auto from Nissan.

I hear that JFK lost his mind over the ‘63 Continental.

57 Ford, wonderful, would give my eye teeth for a 57 Ranchero. Robert, I will see you the Green Mopar convertible and Green Shelby, and Green Mach one, and raise you a green Aston Martin. Vintage GM Iron....for USA-1. Shelby...

Yes this could so carry the Olds Badge on it! Would you be happy if it was an SUV with an Olds badge? Be interesting once they do the SUV Reveal.

How's this for a sleeper? Has a 400 HP small block in it.

In a similar vein to that Buick, there was a subtly modified dark red '78 Impala coupe for sale last year, someone had put a 425hp 383 in it...loved the look, blackwall tires w/ steelies and dog dish hubcaps. Found a listing for it. http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/chevrolet/103473-coolest-sleeper-on-the-road-zz3-383425-hp-v8-built-th350-410-custom-duals.html

"LeSleeper" quarter mile : 9.8 secs @ 133 MPH.