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  1. The literal shyt two tone paint on this thing aside, (personal taste paint choice, I get it,) this generation of S Class is ugly. Conservative does not mean, nor does it imply, or need to be ugly. I get the fact that the old money guard does not want to advertise or flaunt wealth. I know many of the many reasons why... And I know that the S Class caters to this wealthy class of people and it has so for a long time now. But Ill repeat, conservative styling does not mean, nor does it imply, or need to be ugly. And this generation of S Class is quite the hideous thing. Its actually uglier than a Rolls Royce. But the Rolls has one thing above the S Class. Its imposing and its stately and it majestic. OK, the Rolls has 3 things over the S Class. Make it 4. The Rolls also has the NAME behind that royalty! The S Class wants to live in the melted bar of soapy aero styling of a 1986 Ford Taurus and of GM's and Chrysler's 1990s stylistic offerings! The Celestiq is way way better stylistically than ANY sedan Mercedes offering right now. Mercedes better get its shyte together because I see Cadillac in the EV future restoring its place in the luxury world and displacing Mercedes and leaving Mercedes to compete with Chevrolet. And even there, Chevy styling is so much better than Mercedes.
    2 points
  2. Par for the course for SUV styling. Which will always be 'meh' at best. But it does one styling thing well that I actually like. The beltline has a coke bottle effect that is kinda sexy to me. Along with the roofline mimicking a Landrover start high and sloop low effect. That kinda roofline sometimes excites me, and other days bores me. I like the Blazer EV inside and out. Range and speed for all trims are par for the course, which is good. RWD and (surprise surprise) FWD is a GREAT option to include. Why the phoque not? Why with EV motors and software when AWD is also offered, why would a vehicle be either/or? EVs are not limited to what powers the wheels like a a chunky ICE does with the transmission.... GREAT engineering and marketing thought process for the Ultium gang from gm!!!
    2 points
  3. Good morning ... ... from Quogue, Long Island, NY
    2 points
  4. Wow, I wasn’t expecting this. I really dig the profile and styling. Fresh, unique, interesting. Makes the Tesla and Lucid look flabby and dated. Makes the Mercedes look ridiculous. still may not justify the price but that long roof coupe / wagon look I really really like.
    2 points
  5. That's all fantasyland. Mercedes-Benz had higher revenue than GM or Honda in 2021. Mercedes-Benz is not a small car company like Lucid, Aston Martin, Lotus, or even Mazda. They don't need a partner, don't have to worry about being too small or not being able to scale volume like Rivian or Lucid will have to worry about. Mercedes is scrapping the A-class in the USA. The S-class outsells all competitors combined, the G-wagen is going for like $200k on the used market, in the up market they are the most in demand brand. The AMG GT starts over $100k, goes over $300k (the Nurburgring record holder), GT 4-door is $100-200k (the 4-door vehicle Nurburgring record holder), a $3 million hyper car that will become the Nurburgring record holder. They have Maybach SL, Maybach EQS, Maybach EQS SUV coming, and a Mythos sub-brand that will be above Maybach and build custom made and one-off cars. Chevrolet sells more vehicles over $50k than Cadillac does, so does Ford. Meaningless statistic. Cadillac quality better than Lexus? XT5 more reliable and with better resale than a Lexus RX350? 10-15 years ago people made the argument that Cadillac is back because they had a 556 hp CTS-V, a 469 hp STS-V, the XLR, an Escalade doing well, then 5 years ago it was a 640 hp CTS-V, another new Escalade, the CT6 "flagship" and people said Cadillac is back and Cadillac sales are worse now than they were then, and pretty much all those products aside from the Escalade are gone. 10 years from now, the Lyriq, Celestiq and Formulayiq small crossover will all be dead, the Escalade will still be there (in EV form) and there will be a new GM at Cadillac and another renaissance 5 year turn around plan bing announced.
    1 point
  6. TBH, I prefer the exterior of the Lyriq over the Celestiq. If the interior of the Celestiq concept is largely carried into production, Cadillac should have a winner on its hands, EV or not.
    1 point
  7. You better include Mercedes in that group, bud. The reasoning why they merged with Chrysler... The reasoning why they are going down market in the US when in the US they were ALWAYS upscale. 'Twas only in their home market in Europe that Mercedes needed to be like Dodge and Chevrolet. But NOT in the good ole USofA. Mercedes, despite as you put it, the S Class out selling its direct competition, it aint doing too hot in the upmarket... Mercedes sales are great in Europe with their low to mid level market. Its low end stuff. Hence why they want to replicate that in the US market. And once Mercedes gets American people thinking that Mercedes is at Hyundai and Kia levels, Mercedes is toast. As I said before, Chevrolet sells more 50 000 dollar vehicles than Mercedes does in the US... The Lyriq and Celestiq have a new Cadillac design language, front and back actually, that seems to have clicked with people. Cadillac has fixed their quality and their luxury and that means Cadillac is finally on its way in reprising their standard that they flubbed on. The V cars actually have a cult following. A cult following that resembles the fervor of BMW M cars, Mercedes AMG cars and Teslas... Mercedes is actually, ironically, at the crossroads of where GM and Cadillac were in the 1990s and Cadillac and Chevrolet to a lesser degree is where BMW and Mercedes were in the US in the 1990s. My my my, how have the roles reversed...
    1 point
  8. Not sure this is the hill you want to die on when this particular market is the very definition of the "word" niche, with low volume cars aplomb. Oh and the GV90 is a CUV so...
    1 point
  9. For gods sake man, stop splitting hairs. This article is about an EV so clearly we are just talking about EVs here and not the unrelated ICE Maybach. It's really that simple. Full stop. The EQE will start just north of $70K. The Taycan starts at $86K. The EQS starts at $102K. Point here is that the Taycan IS NOT EQS price. Stop trying to puff up your brand. Although, I guess I should say congrats to the S-Class for being only one of two models from Benz to show a year over gain from the same quarter 2021. Everything else is in the "-" column so far.
    1 point
  10. The EQS isn't the top Mercedes, the S-class, G-wagen, AMG GT, Maybach GLS all cost more, the SL isn't priced yet, but it will cost more. EQS is like 5th in the pecking order at Mercedes. And it is going fine, they sold 4,048 YTD in the USA, which is more than the Lexus LS or BMW 7-Series and 8-series, or Audi A8 or Porsche Panamera. Porsche Taycan sold 4,449 thus far. And the S-class is still the #1 selling large luxury car (outsells 7-series, LS, A8 and Panamera combined). So EQS isn't doing too bad considering it is the #3 selling full size luxury car, with #1 in the same showroom stealing sales from it. Although the Taycan is actually a mid-size, the EQE is the same size as the Taycan, but Taycan is EQS price.
    1 point
  11. The rear quarter is my favorite part, esp. in profile. I like the long hatchback shape, instead of a predictable 3 box sedan profile. Huge blind spots, though..kind of wonder if it needed windows in the back hatch side triangles...looks like the upper taillights are part of the hatch (the seam that goes down the side)...I like the red interior, instead of the usual despair gray or black that GM does so much of..
    1 point
  12. I went to a Greek dive on the way home tonight and got a generous serving of chicken souvlaki sticks, wonderfully seasoned, and served with tzatziki sauce, pita wedges, and tomatoes. I had no room for dessert. Sort of like this and a portion about this size.
    1 point
  13. Both exist though. If I were buying a car now, I'd prefer and EV since I think that's the future and I'll for sticking a middle at foreign oil. But I'd buy an E-class or S-class over an EQE or EQS because the EQE and EQS don't look good, and the E-class and S-class do look good. Also aren't enough EV's out there yet, not many body styles to pick from, most brands have 1 or none to pick from. So that Celestiq still has to compete with the Rolls and Bentleys that are out there now, they aren't only competing against Lucid or the EQS, and really they don't compete against Lucid, the Lucid Air is .4 inches longer than the last Cadillac CTS. The Celestiq I assume is way larger than a Lucid or Model S.
    0 points
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