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https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-gm-joined-in-1-million-ev-sales-race-by-japanese-rival-nissan/ As of March 23, 2018... Nissan, Toyota, Tesla, GM, Volkswagen all want to sell 1 million EVs by as early as 2022 and as late 2026. These are sales targets... Tesla wants 1 million by 2020. They dont have to production knowledge to do so. I keep on hearing that people dont want EVs... Well...maybe in certain parts of the United States of America. But other parts of this phoquing planet...they want EVs... Infrastructure and range anxiety are all of the bullsyte argument variety. If one wants change....change DOES happen... I have NO DOUBT that each and every one of these automakers WILL succeed in selling 1-2-3 million EVs a year EACH by 2030. Not here though. Not in North America. As long as people like you, BLU, who lives in a bubble...will NEVER happen! MONTREAL is currently hosting its 2nd annual EV autoshow. Like right now! Like April 20, 21 and 22. Like this very week-end. SEPARATE from the Montreal Auto Show and a lot smaller. But it is growing... https://svem.ebems.com/home.html Its fine to NOT want EVs... Just dont snicker at the fact that the phoquing planet is MOVING away from gasoline engines... In China and in Japan for instance...the infrastucture for EVs is being built RIGHT NOW by LEAPS and BOUNDS... Yes...I know...the United States of of America people, much like yourself, dont want that change... Its cool... Dont phoquing complain when people from OUTSIDE of the United States of America make fun of you... Just like you folk made fun of others outside the USofA...its payback time if you folk do NOT go with the flow... From the late 1970s... From 1985... Just before this scene...DOC makes fun of Japanese electronics... from 2018... Its not nice to laugh...but the Smokey and the Bandit laughter at Japanese cars was told in blindness. The Back to the Future laughter was satirical and an eye opener. The Trump thing was just flat out backwards and catering to the folk that are simply...simpletons...the simpletons of America dragging your beautiful country down... All this to say...America IS falling behind... America is NOT the world leader it once was... NOT because America has lost it completely. Its because the WORLD itself has had a chance to catch up to America. Yes...thanx in part to America...but that is the thing. The world is such a smaller place right now... Other world powerhouses do influence the world, including America. If you dont evolve with the times, be prepared to fall by the way side. Take that as you will BLU, but change only happens if you want it. Success happens ONLY if you STRIVE for it. Hoping for the best and NOT doing ANYTHING about it will ONLY result in failure. You see, other engineering brainiacs and innovative entrepreneurs ELSEWHERE on the planet get to dictate what is the future going to be and if you living in Lancaster Pennsylvania can not see that and still see China and Japan and Korea as rice patty places and Germany and France and Greece as 3rd world countries devastated by war...yes Greece...Greece still has the brain power to reverse severe austerity measures...then you living in Lancaster Pennsylvania will be the one to be what those countries were in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s... Laugh...but that horse and buggy will be coming to you soon if you dont adapt... Laugh...but what Greece is experiencing right now, what the USA experienced in 2009, will happen again, but PERMANENTLY if you Americans CONTINUE to live a life on credit but FAIL to MODERNIZE!!! Yes...MODERNIZE!!! Fossil fuels are coming to an end...be it 20 years from now or 50 years from now... Change needs to happen to YOUR country NOW... EV infrastructure needs to be built NOW...and not at a slow sloth pace its at...at the the rabbit pace its happening in China... California, Washington...its got it! Lancaster Pennsylvania...I feel sorry for you!

Wasn't there a commercial sometime in the 1950s or 1960s that said you want a sports car but you marry an Oldsmobile? (Or was it Buick?) But yeah... Aphrodite: Greek Goddess of beauty, love and fertility. Eros: Greek God of love and SEXUAL DESIRE! No need to commit. One could have flings! There is nothing wrong with that. One could have lustful desires and one could indulge in them without the burden of love and commitment...if its between 2 consenting adults that are NOT committed with other people in a bond of holy matrimony. If one could have strong lustful desires and love with a wife or husband, then that is awesome... I know...Christianity does not allow for lustful desires outside the bonds of holy matrimony. Its a good thing for us Greeks that there is loophole for us as Aphrodite and Eros allowed us that for a minimum of 3500 years BEFORE the Holy Trinity took it away from us...and...the Holy Trinity is only bossing us around for ONLY 2000 years after that.... With THAT being said... Mercedes-Benz, Audi, BMW also have HORRID emotional problems. The thing is, long term relationships with those 3 are at a minimum...people lease those cars, non? Actually, people lease faithful Chevys, Hondas and Toyotas. People just dont want commitment today! People lust over those buxom blonde Germans, yet they are aware of the long term problems so they dont commit long term. They dont marry them.... Same for Alpha Romeos. One could EASILY have lustful flings with Alpha, as long as one takes a 3 year lease term. And then one moves unto another conquest. To frolic naked in the Garden of Eden with a lover doing all kinds of nasty and dirty things to said lover...

Well...I have said that Corvette needs to be a brand on its own. Which in turn, means that a Corvette CUV is necessary, as part of a brand... About the proposal above concerning Mustang and Camaro: NO! I wouldn't mind a Mustang and Camaro being 100% electric sometime in the (near) future (maybe?)...as 2 door sporty cars...just as they are now, but with electric motors and batteries. I wouldn't mind AWD either. Actually, I wouldn't mind AWD now! Both top Mustangs and Camaros have upwards (or will have for the Mustang soon) of 650 horsepower and 650 ft.lbs . of torque. AWD will benefit them. OK, maybe not as weight may be an issue. As long as Mustang and Camaro stay true to their original purpose, for me, what powers them is irrelevant. If GM and FoMoCo need sporty CUVs to peddle, Im sure they could find a way to engineer, market and sell a new product and create new brand identity with said new vehicle. Does that mean the death of 2 door sporty cars if in the future people wont be buying them which in turn will make Mustang and Camaro nameplates disappear? Sure! But what is the point of slapping the name Mustang or Camaro on a product and that particular product is the exact opposite of what Mustang's and Camaro's original purpose was? If that is the case, the original purpose to Mustang and Camaro is clearly dead...so clinging on to names just for the sake of the names is useless... Marketing should find a way to make Mustang and Camaro...AS 2 DOOR SPORTS CARS RELEVANT IN ANY FUTURE!!! Marketing should also find a way to create NEW brands to be as iconic as Mustang and Camaro in the future as well as sporty CUVs... Engineering should take care of business to make all that happen!

You know what? Id still take the Eagle over the Mercedes... Its just a rendering though, so all this negative talk over the Mercedes is for nothing. All that I wanted to say is that what is old is new again...

Well...we've seen this styling before... From Mercedes... And we all know the PT Cruiser was throwback styling to these... Yes! American cars from the mid to late 1930s just before America entered WW2 and the US automakers shut down automobile production... This a Buick. 1938. With running boards for a SUV look. These are high off the ground. They actually DO have a trunk. They got today's high beltline styling. They look aerodynamic... Ive actually said this before...if we are gonna go down the SUV craze for a tad longer...I want my SUV to look like this. Now...take that monstrosity rendering from Mercedes. Which one would YOU like to be seen in? Id take the 1938 Buick Special please!!! The design is more coherent. More fluid. More elegant...and dare I say it? MORE MODERN!!!! Even with those fenders and the upright windshield!!! So...like I said, NOBODY would be copying that M-B. Its UGLY! If anything...automakers would be looking to Harley Earl's designs from 80 years ago for inspiration...

This...deserves a frowny face. Nothing this hideous will make ANY automaker copy it. Not even the Chinese or the Koreans...

I was always a Goodyear tire guy. The 1980s made me be a Goodyear tire guy. Because of General Motors. Id say 99.9% of GM cars in the 1980s came with Goodyear tires and because I was so far up GM's tushy then, Goodyear was it for me. And they were good tires. I recently have liked more and more the tires of Michelin and Yokohama for winters. (Bridgestone Blizzaks are good too. I prefer the Yokohamas though.) At the same time, I like less and less Goodyear.

LOL You are right. Its not a Canadian thing this liters versus cubic inches. For me, anything smaller than a 305 gets to be called in liters. The Buick V6 for me will always be a 3.8 liter V6 rather than 231 CI. However, original American V8s that started our craze for V8 power in our cars, like the small block Chevrolet for instance will always be 283 cubic inches. But...even then, a late 1970s Trans Am will be referred to me by 6.6 liters and the Cadillac Northstar will be 4.6 liters....yes...I know...283 cubic inches... So technically for me, this dilemma is a Canadian thing. Why Canadian you ask? Because Canada has adopted the Metric system. Since the early 1970s. And Canadians, for the most part, including myself, STILL use in conversation the Imperial system. Feet and pounds. Inches. When we are conversing with others. Technically, our schooling has stopped teaching our kids both systems, so I think the Millennial students wont be comfortable with the Imperial system. Irony is that myself, I cannot visually see in a spacial reality what a meter is. I can visualize a foot, an inch. 1 centimeter. With a little concentration, I could decipher miles in a spacial reality. Im better with kilometers. I know how heavy 1 pound is. 2 pounds. 3 pounds. I also know how heavy 1 kilogram is. Im working on temperature. Baking and cooking is done in Fahrenheit while weather is done in Celsius in my head. I know the basics. Water freezes at 0 C or 32F. Water boils at 100C or 212F. -40C= -40F. So yeah...there you have it. This is how I process cubic inches and liters. With a backstory to go along with it. PS: Muscle Car engines of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s will ALWAYS sound better in cubic inches. Not only sound better, but in reality, these engines ARE cubic inches.

I poked around for 60 seconds too. I found something...just words...so probably a pusher...but those words do not sound comforting for BLU regardless... https://www.supercars.net/blog/2007-buick-riviera-concept/ So....it might as well have a 455 stage 1 under the hood...it just be a generator to compliment this... Instead of a whopping 91.5 cubic inch motor, it have a humongous monstrous 455 cubic incher. Or in Canadian terms...instead of a 1.5 liter 4 banger, it have a 7.5 liter V8!

I would rather they ditch the alphanumerics too. But at this point, when yet another leader is gone and another is appointed and yet again, the direction of where Cadillac is heading maybe changing, which may mean more delays in what products Cadillac SHOULD be getting to at least be considered by the wealthy for Cadillac to be in the top 1 tier of luxury...Id say the naming of said products at this time is the least of their worries. The RIGHT products that have FLAWLESS luxury should be a priority. Sub ATS cars to compete with Audi A3s and econobox FWD Mercedes Benzes that ultimately compete with Chevrolets disguised as luxury cars is NOT the way to go. With this change, yet again, Cadillac better make sure that the CT5 is FLAWLESS and SUPERIOR to its competition in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. Naming the CT5 a Deville, but its less than it should be regarding anything about it, will be stupid...a thousand steps back. Getting the CT5 right and its awesome, at this point...does it really matter if its an alphanumeric? Hopefully this will not impact progress. Usually leadership changes delays the progress. This is yet another change. Too many for me to remember the last decade...This is what I fear.

Cool concepts and visions with this electric vehicle. I do have a warm and fuzzy feeling for the future if its depicted this way. I also fear the future for those very same ideas that were presented to us. I cannot wait for those concepts to be reality, at the same time I wish we were still in the 1950s-1980s. Before all this electronic and internet explosion that we are experiencing and about to delve further into a virtual reality world... The infinite amount possibilites that we are about to enter with our lives regarding our electronic devices, our cars, our homes...its overwhelming. Its scary. Visions of Terminator, Avatar, 2001 a Space Odyssey, Back to the Future 2, has just flooded my brain. Some scary thoughts, but some awesome ones too! Did I just say that I wish we were still in the 1950s-1980s? Nix that! The future, if we dont phoque it up with greed and war and everything bad humans are capable of, the future looks OK to me! One thing though. Other than the awesome blue electric colour vibe from the grill to the interior lighting, the silhouette of this thing looks like its of a Mazda CUV design language...not a very Buicky look to this CUV. PS: That lady's milkshake sure would be able to attract all the boys to the yard!

I know. LOL Maybe my joke was pathetic...and I get that... But I was doing Lando. Lando Carlissian as JDN for the rando dude... And he betraying the not so rebellious (Han and Leia...rebel alliance) and conservative Cadillac Dealership alliance by raising Cadillac price tags resulting in lower Cadillac sales to the chagrin of said alliance... You know...by emulating the evil Dark side of the luxurious force of being too much like Audi and less like Cadillac...the good side of the force because Cadillac is as American as apple pie and Luke Skywalker. Im beating a dead horse, arent I?

Rando? As in Rando Calrissian? I heard he was a scoundrel and a smuggler. Yeah, I wouldnt trust him either if I was the GM brass. I heard he was a scoundrel and a smuggler. Good thing they fired him before he'd phoque things up worse for the Cadillac Dealership Alliance by joining theDark European way of luxury rather then staying true to the Light side of Americana...

Well... I really dont care about the details about the why and the how JDN being fired or leaving on his own. I care about what SMK is saying...because its true...about Cadillac being the Cleveland Browns of the automotive world. So... What does all this mean for all the products in the pipe line? The EVs? The CT5s and the CT4s and the CT8? Will there even BE a CT8? Whether its an SUV or coupe...what is going on with that? The CT5 and the CT4 are gonna happen. As well as the other CUVs I imagine. But are JDN's Caddy econboxes gonna be scrapped now? I sure hope so! That naming scheme? OK...it wasnt JDN's idea, (that much I knew), is it gonna be reversed now? This is a non-issue though. As long as the products coming are worthy of Cadillac top tier 1 luxury...who cares for the names at this point? Is Cadillac's headquarter's gonna be moved back to Detroit? Or anywhere else? I hope not only because its more noise pollution taking away form the task at hand..which is PRODUCTS PRODUCTS PRODUCTS and QUALITY INTERIORS WORTHY OF A HIGH END BRAND!!! And yes...a HALO CAR SHOULD BE IN THE WORKS!!! Maybe not for now, but when Cadillac becomes worthy in the people's minds, the halo car should be out immediately then,,,which means that a product should at least dreamed of as of now and ready to go into concept stage to be shown and to be produced almost immediately after so people continue to be excited for the brand...when the IRON IS HOT!!! THAT means that if this new guy delays JDN's idea of the CT8...that means another decade of Cadillac not having a real heart stopper for the people to actually buy... SMK gets his panties wet for the AMG Project One car... Cadillac needs a bloody vehicle for ME to get MY panties wet!!! The CT8 V Sport is NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! Rant Over...again! A couple of songs that inspired me reading this news today Two steps forward, one step back...we DONT come together, because in the case...opposites get fired! You CANT have it all. There is no way to turn it around. Whatever Cadillac does, Cadillac is always two steps behind...

The ONLY reason why Im going on you guys is that for me...the GT is NOT all that. Its fast...sure...its 115 000 dollars. Its great! Bang for you buck? The 911 starts at 90 000 and finishes off at 290 000 with a 700 horsepower, track beast! @ 90 000, it does what a 60 000 Camaro ZL1 does. Numbers wise.... A 911 is a 911... The Vette is the Vette. It finishes at 115 000 with the new ZR1. It does exactly what it should do. Here comes a new comer and to me...AMG just decides to put themselves in the middle of the 911. UNDERCUT the 911 in price but offer something that is above an equivalent 911 at that price point. THAT to me is chickening out. THAT to me smells of CHEVROLET! NOT the GREAT and AWESOME German engineering. The 911 is EXPENSIVE! DAMN RIGHT IT IS! Its a PORSCHE! Isnt THAT what an AMG stands for? Prestige. High end. Elite. Domination. That is what Porsche made itself out to be! I thought AMG was the same...SILLY ME!!! And then when Chevrolet EXCEEDS the GT just because America always says PHOQUE YOU to ELITISM, and the Corvette ALWAYS symbolized the middle finger to elitism, THAT is why I do NOT see the GT with rose coloured glasses. For me...the AMG GT SHOULD have been FASTER than a Porsche 911 GT RS2...the BEST Porsche has to offer...since the GT was supposed to best the 911 to begin with. Price point is what you are gonna tell me? THAT is a CHEVROLET selling point...NOT awesome German engineering selling points. And then...the Yanks engineer a ZR1 and shytes on the AMG GT at that very same price point. THAT is why I ADORE the 911. That is why I ADORE Porsche! Because Porsche IS arrogant. They SNEER at the Vette. They LAUGH at the Vette. And when the Vette tries to come close and maybe beat the 911, Porsche just comes out with a new version of the 911 that just spanks not only the Vette's ass, but cars costing 2-3 times the 911's GT RS2's price point! So when I read AMG wants to add another car in its line-up, and then I read fanboys sneer at lesser cars than an AMG...and knowing those supposed lesser cars are great all around TRUE SPORTS CAR performance cars, then I laugh and go on a tirade! ONLY because those lesser cars ARE lesser cars....CHEVROLET, FORD, TOYOTA... These are NOT AMGs...

AMG in a 50 000 dollar range? To compete and steal sales from Camaros and Mustangs? I aint laughing because AMG is not capable... Im laughing because AMG shouldnt even try to cheapen themselves to be in this niche to begin with... But then again...they have cheapened themselves with the CLA... You folk think AMG will improve its brand image by going after a lowly Ford and Chevy? You guys are even contradicting yourselves trying to praise a 50 000 dollar AMG by mentioning Toyota, Ford, Chevy and the craptastic CLA itself by trying to elevate an AMG in that price range in the same breath!!!! I KNOW you guys know that the Mustang GT350 and the Camaro Z28 and any 1LE punches ABOVE their price point... The GT and the SS are lowly regular V8 cars. NO! They are NOT expensive! They DO have 400 plus horsepower and an equal amount of ft. lbs of torque. 460 for the Stang and 455 for the Camaro. The Stang is at 420 ft. lbs while the Camaro has 455... Inline turbo V6s are awesome... problem is...The Mustang and the Camaro has a very loyal following... Yes...there will be folk that WILL say Id rather have the German iron... But you know WHO does that? BADGE snobs! The CLA AMG HAS SOLD a few units here and there... BUT...if they DO find themselves in THIS market...you think that is a plus for AMG? Interesting... I find that its a plus for the Camaro and Mustang...to have the mighty AMG go after lowly pony cars... But then again, the Mustang and Camaro are NOT just pony cars anymore... Yeah...AMG, the almighty engineering powerhouse doing battle with Chevrolets, Fords and Toyotas... Remember though...AMG has their work cut out for them if they are gonna dominate these guys... Its easy to put the AMG badge on anything and call it the day... I dont thing AMG will do that...but...Ford and Chevy have REALLY upped their game in this market...at ANY price point... AMG, to actually mean something...they have to BLOW the competition out of the water...and that they WILL NOT do! NOT at that price point! The GT is $115 000. Fast like hell!!! Problem is that the Corvette that costs that much...$115 000...is a helluva lot faster. Sure...its got a helluva lot more power. But THAT is the thing...ITS GOT MORE POWER, ITS FASTER all for the same price! You are probably gonna go with the driving dynamic BS argument...The Vette drives just phoquing fine! Even in ZR1 beast mode... Its a good daily driver, even with 750 horses under the hood and well, if one wants to track it, its does that awesomely well... Now...we are dealing with PONY cars! If the Corvette was ALWAYS known for bang for your buck, the bread and butter reason for pony cars is all about the bang for your buck! Even at $50 000... At 60 000, the ZL1 resides... No amount of OVER EXAGGERATED and OVER BLOWN Gerrman engineering will EVER come close to what the Camaro ZL1 does at that price point! Not even AMG could match that. Besides...AMG is SUPPOSED to be elite...its supposed to be high end...its supposed to dominate... Elite? If they cannot beat a Camaro...which they wont be able to...strike one... High end? We are talking about 50 000 dollars...Work trucks costs that much today! Pony cars cost that much....Strike two. Dominate? To your eyes the GT dominates the Vette...NOT to MY eyes...Is that strike 3? To me it is. maybe not to you...but as soon as there is doubt by ONE car guy...it aint a good thing for AMG... Down the road...this is gonna be their down fall... The jokes are in even in this thread. Sprinter and Metris AMGs... Sure...you could buy one over a Camaro if you want to...but dont try to be smug about your ride to a Camaro guy because he will laugh at you! Its 2018 boys...its no longer the piss poor quality F-bodies of the disco era, smog choked Trans Ams that movies made them famous crossing state lines with bootlegged Coors beer. Or the 1980s/1990s Vanilla Ice 5.0s cruising Beachfront avenue... Or the all motor and nothing else 4rth generation... Its 2018... And THAT in itself is a POSITIVE for Chevrolet and Ford when you guys think that AMG should try to steal away some of the thunder the American pony cars have got!!! Trust me...it aint a good thing for AMG!

The Aztec was too far ahead of its time. At the time it was ugly. But I think time has done it justice. It aint as ugly or weird to look at anymore. Especially when Chevrolet styles its cars that same way today. It all start it 2009 with a good looking Malibu... Not that the 2018 Malibu is not good looking, because it is... But let's be honest now... Especially on the Equinox, where the Bow Tie resides, and its very prominent in the 2009 Malibu, but we say that the 2009 Malibu was a sharp looking car... That Aztec look that was sooooo weird to us now has become the norm with the bigger radiator grille openings being below another set of smaller radiator openings separated by a bar... And Chevy even stuck a Bow Tie on top the way Pontiac did it with the Aztec on the latest generation Equinox...A crossover... Wasn't an Aztec a crossover too? The thing is an Aztec was a minivan based crossover rather than a car platform... But look...the Montreal Police used an Aztec as a police car???!!! YEAH! JUST like how we have this: And I dont think Arts and Science REMOTELY resembles what the Aztec was doing. What the Aztec was doing was...out-RAGEOUS Just a tad less Trans Am-y and more mini-van-y. And the Sport part of the SUV moniker was redefined for more of an outdoorsy vehicle rather than a track vehicle. And the name fit it quite well I think... I see Aztec art in the Pontiac Aztek. Aztec art is not as easy flowing like we are accustomed to from classical Greek art. Its aggressive in nature. Its rough. Its different than what we are used to. But beautiful non the less. And ,like I said, Chevrolet has adopted Pontiac Aztek styling. Therefore the Pontiac really was not that bad.

That is Tesla. With the Model S. Tesla bites off more than it could chew. It has a Model X that came out a couple of years after (3 years) the Model S. No 2nd generation announced for that one either. It has a Model 3 that is barely reaching customers now. No 2nd generation announced for this either. Too soon to annonuce a 2nd gene Model 3? Nah...Elon is thinking about Mars and human pneumatic transport systems and underground tunnel highway systems to invest money into Tesla to actually produce 2nd generation Model S. Model X and Model 3... Yet GM has announced a 2nd generation Bolt and the Bolt is barely in its 2nd year of production. With plenty of other vehicle styles that will use that same platform. Tesla will supposedly produce a Model Y. A smaller "affordable" CUV to compliment the Model 3 like the Model X compliments the Model S. Kinda like how GM is announcing a plethora of different style vehicles from the next generation Bolt. Kinda. Same but different. Will there even BE a 2nd generation Model S? What about a 2nd generation Model X? To me, these vehicles are fast becoming stale and are approaching their expiration date. There is however a 2nd generation roadster Tesla with Tesla's newest battery tech. Possibly a new motor too? Like I said. Same but different. And I tried to find a newer article on the Bolt profit thing. That was the most current I could find. I did not try that hard to find a newer article, admittedly. I figured the message of GM WANTING to go forward with the EV thing and investing money into this program to have a plethora of 100% electric and battery operated vehicles far outweighs how accurate that $7400 figure really is. I figured, GM has shown us from its past that whatever GM deems a loser, GM cuts it loose almost immediately. Sometimes too fast. Therefore, when GM announced that the 2nd generation Bolt is a thing, and many other vehicles will be produced by that same platform because that is how GM will engineer the 2nd generation Bolt, then it does not matter how much money GM is losing or is making a profit with the 1st generation Bolt. The important thing here is that GM is committed to engineer a platform that will be 100% electric and that it will have economies of scale to ensure its profitability and its success in the market place. Will enough people buy this platform? GM is betting that people WILL buy into this platform. THAT is why GM will have many types of vehicles propelled by it. To make sure that IT WILL succeed. To have a BROADER audience. Only time will tell if this will be a success or a failure. But, with the amount of Volts and Bolts being sold, which is still significant, is enough for GM to spend billions on a 2nd generation Bolt. If Im not mistaken, the Volt is the one to be canceled sometime in the near future, right? If I am right, I think its because the newest technology of the Bolt 2.0 will make it possible that Voltec may not be necessary anymore. GM saw with the 2005 Mustang that retro styled Pony cars DO sell. The GTO WAS a bust because it was NOT retro styled. Hence the Camaro comeback. So...GM...when they think they COULD make money selling a vehicle, they WILL sell it! Hence the Bolt 2.0!

About $7400 for every Bolt sold!!! http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/06/ubs-gm-probably-loses-about-7400-per-chevrolet-bolt-ev/ The thing is...GM paid Quebec and Canada 250 million to halt production of the F-Body...because they thought that engineering a new platform and not selling enough units, GM would LOSE MORE than that!!! So...the Camaro and Trans Am went away! https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2016/11/04/camaro-sales THIS is the same problem with the Bolt!!! NOT!!! You see, the F-Body went away because RWD sports car coupes were a thing of the past... SUVs were fast becoming already were what people were buying. And to this day, SUVs are hot. SUVs are killing of sedans... What does this have to do with the Bolt? Well...like the F-Body, the Bolt platform only resides to one model. There is no economies of scale. Regardless that Camaro and Firebird sales combine were about what Camaro sales with the ATS are doing today...GM was also bleeding money elsewhere. Hence the bankruptcy 6-7 years later... PLUS...there was not much GM could do with JUST a F-Body platform relegated to only sports car status... The next generation Bolt platform WILL house many many other types of vehicles. And GM predicts that these vehicles WILL sell in enough quantities to actually make a profit... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-ceo/gm-challenges-tesla-with-promise-of-profitable-electric-cars-idUSKBN1DF272 GM...is NOT a company that is afraid to kill off products and brands...legendary products and brands sometimes... Corvair, Lasalle, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Fiero, Caprice/Bel Air/Impala, Camaro, Firebird, Fleetwood and so forth and so forth... Hell, the Corvette was nearly killed off 3-4 times in the past. As early as not having a C5. Even the C7 barely made it through because of the bankruptcy. GM has ALWAYS been about the bottom line... If GM thinks there is money to be made with EVs, then GM will produce EVs... If GM thinks EVs will be money losers, then GM will kill EVs... So...cry all you want about EVs, they are here to stay!

I feel the same way when I get a double yolk in the egg Im about to eat. Triple yolk and I just won the jackpot!!!

Oh yeah? Their electric motors? Their battery module system? Their AWD system that connects the batteries and the motors and the drivetrain in general? All the computer computing power to enable 335 mile range and ludicrous mode? (obviously those times are probably not gonna be duplicated on the particular EV conversion car one wants to convert. Maybe...Maybe bested too?) You mean one could have a Tesla Model S P100D in any body shell one wants? That is awesome!!! However, I read an article about Porsche's EV sedan and those engineers sneered and laughed at the Model S... They said that their sedan will have more than 2 or 3 neck snapping drag race runs that will best the Model S P100D ludicrous mode times. They laughed that the Model S could only achieve those runs 2 or 3 times before having to recharge. Their sedan will be able to do that multiple times. OK...I find what the Porsche engineers are saying as just plain stupid talk...the Model S has been with us since 2012. 6 years... Their effort is still in concept mode... So still awesome that one could convert a classic muscle car if one chooses without resorting to a junk yard to find a totaled Model S...(because laugh at Tesla all we want, the Model S in ludicrous mode is one helluva beast of a machine...) The Porsche sedan will probably be a beast machine too...it ought to be though! They have 6 years of newer engineering technology and the Model S to start off with to best the Model S with... The thing is, the next generation Tesla roadster will showcase Tesla's next generation tech too...and that tech will most probably make itself into a Tesla Model S... The Model S will probably suffer with the same body shell though.

You are right!!!

I always forget Tesla makes their proprietary engineering public. Is that a good thing for Tesla's bottom line?

We have to have a proper definition of ass...because if the definition of ass is this: Then that would be a good thing... However, when it comes to the 2019 Camaro refresh...I believe swamp ass or plumber butt is what we are referring to....

^^^ She's bad to the bone. She'll fix herself right up, no doubt.