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I like that too, but now we are bordering the x-rated...and we cant have that... Seeing that Im a married man and all. And well, you know...carnal thoughts are a sin... But seriously... What the human mind and body can accomplish is extraordinary. Instead of wasting our human brain activity and energy on electronic safety nannies and in the process making most of the unconscious human population believing that computers are faster than the human brain, maybe we could focus on actually training those unconscious human populations in being more attentive in DRIVING the actual phoquing car!!! Instead of flooding the phoquing car with attention sapping doodads, maybe we can get back to being safe phoquing drivers... And never-you-mind this bullshyte of computers are better for us and smarter than us and faster than us and believing that we need computers to do the most menial of tasks of everyday life and FORGETTING that it is US that created computers in the first phoquing place... Computers are supposed to make life easier for us. THAT IS IT! But somewhere along the line...we forgot that. And when someone points that out...he shouldnt be shunned, laughed at or ignored and tried to be corrected...

How the human brain communicates and reacts with other human brains... flawless interaction... Just awesome...

(not the right thread to hold a grudge...)

I like to defend the human brain and the human body. I LOVE technology. I LOVE the human brain and the human body even more. The thing is...I proved my points with gifs, videos, dialogue AND with websites... All morning and afternoon long, I argued with one, two people regarding this. I had other posters upvote falsehoods on the other poster's points...yet nobody was able to disprove MY thoughts, theories, gifs, videos, websites... The Bo Jackson video on top again just proves how the human brain and eyes process information and translates that to decision making and actions and reactions and movements in a split of a second. If we see Bo jackson as a computer/robot, we see how Bo Jackson's motors (muscles) and wheels (legs and arms) act fast to those actions taken by the processing computer (his brain)...overpowering everything in his sights...like a fictional robotic Terminator form the year 2025 when the machines take over... It was very very frustrating repeating the same thing over and over again... Yes...safety nannies are there as a safety net to be aware for us 100% of the time to help us when we are not....yet these nannies STILL need OUR physical inputs to steer clear of danger...how phoquing ironic!!! And this is why I ranted, to show you folk that our human brains do actually react faster than the computer does. EVEN if a computer could solve complex mathematical equations faster than we do...our brain does other stuff faster...like in actual decision making...and directs our muscles and our eyes and our awareness to our environment in a split second and corrects for a 2nd and 3rd event that happens in the seconds after the 1st event... And our brain does that...an will always do that...through 20 000 years of evolution and we keep on evolving and inventing... And all I needed was just a SINCERE...you are right OLDS... Not this bullshyte thing of trying to disprove me with falsehoods...

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/geeks-weigh-in-does-a-human-think-faster-than-a-computer/ Thanx, but you are being tooo kind for me.

http://news.mit.edu/2014/in-the-blink-of-an-eye-0116 https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/how-fast-can-the-human-brain-process-images.html

Its a good thing Im Canadian,eh?! Im not included in this 40% count... If we went with Canadians on this site though... I do not know how many Canadians there actually are on this site... There is Fap, Frogger, Suave, myself... So with only those 4...Id say about 25% of Canadians are phoquing stupid...

Well...yeah... To which I have mentioned that in the first post.... But...AGAIN... COMPUTERS are NOT faster than the human brain... Even the nannies react slow because all the billions and billions of codes that WE have programmed into the nanny...there is always something that does NOT compute well... And WE ALL have ADMITTED to it!!! But I have shown how the human brain...*SIGH* THROUGH EVOLUTION...20 000 years of evolution...our brain CORRECTS errors like these and takes the proper measures to adjust and well...we adjust...sometimes we dont and die... But sometimes we do alright for ourselves... yet another phoquing video... Just listen to what he says...if you wanna...because I KNOW you guys do NOT want to admit YOU are wrong...

Well... humans were never designed to be driving, flying...going in excess of...what? 3 mph walking and about 15 mph running in a short amount of time... Yet...we evolved to be doing just that. To make machines that make us go faster than the speed of sound and our brains and muscles act fast enough to control that machine. Or average joes to be driving their cars going 60 mph on a daily basis and we control that car. Our brains and our reflexes our eyes adapting to those speeds quite easily I might add... Sports and flying aircraft at the speed of sound does take a certain amount of training...I will admit. But we have evolved and our brains now does 60 mph...instead of 15mph... And we do it quite good... I repeat...computers are NOT faster than the human brain...

Sure. But...still does not change the fact that a human brain still processes the info fast enough to correct any imperfections to which Tesla says that in auto-pilot mode...a HUMAN is still required to take over the wheel if need be... Computers are NOT faster than the human brain... The human brain is a magnificent organ. Its capable of directing all kinds of information, controlling all the motor skills while making decisions, correct decisions and reapplying information and readjusting motor skills at a blink of an eye. It does that with the nervous system, the eyes and the human limbs. All communicate without a lapse in time...in perfect harmony. Something that computers do NOT do! All computers do is just read code...and act according to what that code says for it to do...granted. Today's computers have billions and billions amounts of code that computers process. It still takes a helluva lot of electricity, electric motors, servers and computing power to do so... We, as humans...all we got is just 1 brain, 2 eyes, 2 ears, 4 limbs and a central nervous system...producing enough electrical pulses tom power our muscles. And with the videos that I have posted both in the the Random Thoughts Thread and in this one, goes to show you you well our brain functions...WITHOUT codes and programs...\ Our codes and our programs is our evolution... ITS WHAT WE DO NATURALLY!!!! Therefore...NO computer...so far...is as fast as we are. We do not compute as fast as a computer. But we ACT AND REACT in our environment faster that it! It aint hard to comprehend that! Unless of course you guys do not want to admit Im right... Not the first time either...

There is no need for that many "eyes" when we drive and ALL of us our FOCUSED in OUR driving... But even then...our reflexes are fast that we CAN correct errors in others or our own... But this is what "eyes" you are referring to though? Because we are far far away from autonomous driving...these are compilations of Tesla Model S autopilot failures that TESLA ALWAYS says that HUMAN drivers NEED to be ALERT to take over the driving... because when we are alert, our brains do a fantastic job of avoiding accidents. Our reflexes, our experiences and our brain power do that! THIS is what other kinds of humans do with our brain power and athletic prowess We could even...fly...well...glide... I mentioned the very first Olympics when the Ancient Greeks dreamed of flying. Hell...Wilbur and Orville never thought this would happen either just over 100 years ago, but here we are...what OUR brain power could calculate to do... And if you are gonna skip these videos...at least watch this last one...to see how well and FAST our brains and our athletic prowess processes mathematical equations... You guys you try all you want to discredit me...Im GIVING VISUAL proof for god's sake!

Ummm...NO! And I GAVE YOU EXAMPLES ON REAL LIFE...and on the Random Thoughts thread (where you might not have gone to that thread, understandably so) then you would realize even more what I am trying to convey... software... Human deciphered programs for computers to follow. And YOU yourself said: Electronic hardware... If you thought about the human body and human brain as a machine, using our brain and central nervous system as our electronic hardware AND software, then you would realize where I am coming from. All that I said is and will always BE relevant. All that was said by ME is just COMPUTER programming. Programmed by humans using THEIR brains... It does not matter what domain we are talking about. The point is that the human brain acts and reacts FASTER than any computer as a computer NEEDS a PROGRAM to work... The program that a computer has does in fact COMPUTE the mathematical codes FASTER than what we as humans can do. BUT...in no way does it react faster than what WE do as humans... What do humans do? Well... The very first Olympics. The shot put and the long jump and the discus throw. The human brain, 2500 plus years ago, used math to make us humans try to jump or throw farther than our other human competitor. Angle of approach, speed and momentum to achieve long distance. You know...when we jump, we rock are bodies back and forth to achieve momentum and we try to get the ideal angle to launch ourselves. Well. We perfected that. Our brain perfected that. THAT was even before we created mathematical equations. Over the course of our existence , we deciphered mathematics and we also invented computers to...compute... 1110010010011100101001 1001001111000100100100 1110001110010101001001 1100100111000011110101 A computer will calculate faster than we will ever do. But...those calculations are limited in the codes and programs we have made for the computer to compute. Different computer and robotics with different codes do different things. Our brains, do not process data that way. But our brains DO process math, and through our 20 000 years of evolution, use our reflexes and muscles and eye sight and our hearing to act and react in our environment. And our athletic ability proves what we can do. And...computers if not programmed to run a simple task as simple as running the bases in baseball, will NOT perform that task. If we program the computer to run the bases, then it will run them...but how will it run the bases if a computer does not have limbs? Oh...it will calculate how fast we humans run bases. Oh... it may even be able to hit a 150 MPH fast ball that us humans cant hit let alone throw, but, will it be able catch a ball, look where the runner is running, decide if it has to throw at 3rd, or 2nd base or make an out at first or tag the runner all the while leaping to catch the ball, actually catching it, landing in a position to actually throw the ball, making the decision where to throw the ball, at an angle where the ball will get to its destination ON target...all in the a time frame of a second or two at the max? Because...we humans do that... And if you do not want to listen to that...then I cannot help you. PS: military computer radars and lidars and the such lock unto SEVERAL targets at once and do the necessary calculations to hit their targets FASTER than we can ever react to. True. But those computers are still performing MATHEMATICAL equations PROGRAMMED by US! A military computer cannot play baseball...the actual game. Not in video game format. THE actual game... If you noticed...the reference of me explaining an infield play is similar to what military radars and lidars and missile launchers do...but us humans actually do it. Our bodies and our brains do it. We have perfected our brain power and our reflexes and muscles to act and react quickly. US...our bodies. Our brains. The computer just follows codes...codes that WE programmed the computer to follow. So yeah...computers are NOT faster than the human brain...

Well...that is the ONE area where computers excel and humans fail... Although having emotions actually IS a wonderful thing. So...I take that back!

Yeah... Call him on it...as HE does NOT want to play nice. To learn... As I am JUST a humble hotdog vendor and hamburger flipper... HE on the other hand...HE is smarter than I and HE has NO time for me... PHOQUE the Dallas Cowboys!!! Look at what a HUMAN BEING was able to do....THAT is the message...I couldnt care less what the dude's uniform was... All I care is that dude's athletic ability and brain allowed him to do...

I was talking about a certain electrical engineer in one thread about human brains and computers and a certain other poster in another thread trying to insult a Lincoln product with one of Earth's most elegant and graceful animals. .. Im disappoint a tad. If we actually view the human being as a machine, we would see that the human being is quite remarkable. https://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/systems/nervous-system/human-body-make-electricity.htm How our hands are the perfect tool. How hands and fingers bend and grip to hold and throw and touch. Skin having little grooves in them for friction so we could grip. Sensors so we could feel. Sensors so we could know how hard or soft to grab. Our eyes. Two high definition cameras that focus instantly. That process information. Speed, angles, distance, depth, colour. And is directly connected to the brain that uses that information to make us act and react to our environment using our own electric superhighway through our very own wiring that is neatly tucked in our spinal cord and extends to our limbs... When something happens soooo fast that our eyes and brain do not catch, through our 20 000 years of evolution, through our learning experiences, our brain automatically fills in the mis-information, the voids, with past images and memories and compensates and reacts quickly to feed us that information so we dont get this When humans have neurological disorders, this is what happens, though, but on the most part, we good!!! Computers...all they do is just calculate formulas. Formulas that WE program into them. Formulas that WE have deciphered. We let the computers do the math as computers process that math faster than we do. But...all a computer does when it gathers input, it just converts that input into mathematical equations that WE have programmed it for and it does the calculations. Our brains do much much more than that. 1. Our brains do NOT convert the input into mathematical equations of ones and zeros 11010001000011110010010 Our brains just uses the info it gathers and makes decisions on the fly...it makes us act and react. The brain, through instinct, experience, evolution calculates our very own PERSONAL weight, speed athletic ability and makes us perform those athletic abilities. Like a computer does. But the computer just uses the codes WE programmed for it to do. WE, our brains, do that NATURALLY. And our brains calculate for errors on that that very moment. If the computer is NOT programmed to anticipate errors...it crashes... Our brain, our experiences, our instinct, our reflexes, our INTELLIGENCE compensates and self corrects... Computers, if not programmed to do so, will NOT do so... We do not need to be programmed, We do this AUTOMATICALLY and NATURALLY. This may happen...and we crash. Too much info overload But we can self correct quickly... most of the time He stumbled, hit his head in the dirt but was graceful enough to let the slide continue, pulled his hands in a defensive position to an offensive one to be safe at 3rd...and gets up like nothing happened...all in a blink of an eye...

Is it me or there is a complete lack of respect towards Earth's creatures today at Cheers and Gears? I understand that this is an automotive forum meant to celebrate machines and not the National Geographic forum...but still!

Its a shame that you are en electrical engineer... No patience? yeah... Lets call it that... I

No they dont... desktop computers do NOT have limbs and muscles to do anything...unlike humans THIS is how the fastest computer/robot reacts... This is how a human reacts: Computers do NOT have reaction times. They have computing times... We have computing times, plus we have reaction times... Computers are a LONG LONG way before they become robots and their electrical wires are as thin as ours and our as compact and cleanly tucked away into their metal bodies, unlike ours that are nicely placed in and around our skeletons with our muscles. Like I said, the human brain has 20 000 years of evolution behind it and our bodies are a marvel... No human created machine could top what our human brains could perform and how EFFICIENT our human bodies are and together how we act and react in our environment. With a computer, it takes a HUMAN invented code to perform. With humans...20 000 years of evolution is where we are at as of now...and we have FREE THINKING!!! All this to say, all these safety gadgets in our cars, if we too the time to INSTRUCT proper DRIVING skills instead of wasting our energy creating electronic gadgets, we wouldnt have the need for electronic safety gadgets. But then again, the human factor of errors and laziness and lack of attention will always bite us in the ass... But I repeat...NO COMPUTER is FASTER than we are acting and reacting...actual movement...when we travel. There are faster things than us in this world, sharks swimming in the water, cheetahs running in the wild, including F16s that we invented...and there will come a time when those fighter aircraft will be a computer flying it, but not because we cannot process that speed, but because our bodies CANT WITHSTAND THE G FORCES... Make no mistake about it, our brains are fast enough to calculate the speeds and our reflexes WILL be up to the task to accommodate those speeds through evolution, but there is one area where evolution stops. We do have limits. Our bodies our not equipped to withstand those G Forces. Our brains willl be smashed up against our skulls, that is instant concussion. Our internal organs would be thrashing around in our rib cage...but our brain and muscles and our electrical highways of nerves and the like...are definitely up to the task...

That is what I said... And yes it does. Our brain is the one that has deciphered to make codes for this computing power. Besides, our brain ALSO computes in microseconds. When we play sports, you think our brain does not use math and compute this mathematical equation in front of us and makes the necessary adjustments to our muscles and reflexes? Read my examples on my post about sports and then process that info with the examples you gave about the military... Why we do have computers in the military though? Because computers DO compute faster than we do and the calculations that they make are more accurate than what humans could do. At a faster rate, and we WILL make errors in adding things up. Stupid mistakes. So to eliminate the "human" factor, computers control the missiles and the like. But make no mistake about it. We could also make those calculations. If we were in control of those devices since the missiles were invented, late 1940s. That we give us 70 years worth of experience that we humans would be able to compute on the fly. Lots of errors in the process, but in 2019, we would have perfected our formulas to use on the fly... Remember, we used complex computing tools and camera lenses to drop bombs in WW2. It was an approximation of where we wanted those bombs to fall. And because we did not want to fail in the mission, we dropped a shyte load of bombs on the targets, but we hit our targets, and the surrounding areas but we did calculate for wind friction, altitude, velocity, gravity, etc...and what we learned from WW2 went on to the codes the computers use today to calculate how the smart missiles and smart bombs would travel and lock on to their target... Oh....but we are... In certain situations. Like sports...or racing other cars on the same track... We see an an autonomous Audi go around a track faster than a normal driver ever could. True. What we do NOT see however is that the track is PRE-PROGRAMMED in the Audi's computer brain... A VETERAN race car driver, when he KNOWS that track like the back of his hand, is JUST as fast... What we do NOT see is that put that autonomous Audi on that track with OTHER HUMAN driven cars, because us humans have one thing that computers will NEVER have a code for, is that we are UNPREDICTABLE...THAT is ONE of our traits of many that makes us human that separates us from the rest of the animal world... Put that autonomous Audi on a track with other race cars, and that Audi will probably not win...as there are too many factors to compute and that WE have not PROGRAMMED it for...yet pro race car drivers do those mathematical problems every Sunday since the 1940s in NASCAR, or just about 100 years in Daytona... OUR experience is the same as a computer code... A computer code that WE INVENTED... And here it is... And yes it does as a computer will not perform unless its programmed to do so. And if there is an error in code. Failure is the result. When we fail, we also have the capacity to correct the failure almost instantaneously. THAT is how powerful and fast our brain acts and reacts. And we do this because: And finally, you end up acknowledging what Ive said all along...

Um...NO! First of all, a computer...computes. But its because a HUMAN made a program for the computer to compute. So NO! A computer is NOT faster than a human brain. A human brain designed a code for the computer to follow... You may be talking about artificial intelligence. And we are not there yet. People in the A.I. business say we are not far off A.I. They say A.I. will be a thing in the next 20-50 years when computers and robots will be in our lives full with A.I. But I STILL do not think autonomous driving will be a thing by then either. WHY? Because the human brain is a fantastic thing... It took us 20 000 years to get us where we are. Survival of the fittest and natural selection is the darnedest thing. In a normal human, where old age has not deteriorated brain and muscles, where youth may be too foolish and not wise enough...the human eyes, the human brain, the human reflexes, the other human senses, HUMAN INTUITION and HUMAN INSTINCT, HUMAN PERCEPTION and HUMAN EXPERIENCE all work together almost INSTANTANEOUSLY...and then there is our 20 000 year old adrenaline factor when all that that I just mentioned gets to be magnified by 1000%. Something that computers do not do! You could see this at work if you watch sports. If you compare passed Olympic triumphs to now, or incredible sports feats. Such as speed skiing, or moguls, or boxing....or football. When a running back is trying to squeeze through a hole, but two huge guys are blocking his way, then he sees an opening completely on the other side, shifts his body, his weight and then...ZOOM, gets through that tiny opneing that was their for a split second and he is on his way to a touchdown. The way a running back processes that info. All the while trying to receive the football from his QB. Running to the side, front, looking out for holes, looking not to get tackled, pushing away his own teamates and others trying to tackle him. Shifting his weight and his position, all the while remaining on his feet, balancing himself, sprinting all this time. Bouncing off people. Running, jumping, skipping...all this is done with his eyes, his feet, his ears(balance and actually hearing things) and his brain controls all that INSTANTLY!!! Or a quarter back doing the same thing as that running back. Has to make a split second decision on whether to give the football away to his running back, pass it in the air or run with it when he sees a blitz coming to him...and more often than not, the decision made was a good one as the QB does NOT get sacked, but succeeds in getting a good play done. An extreme skier, going down a mountain (no trails), like going down a mountain...with just his gut feeling, his athletic prowess and his ability to make a split second decision, to correct his balance, to correct direction... I could do hockey or baseball analogies too. The thing is, day after day, week after week, year after year, game in and game out, we see athletes do these things... Its remarkable how fast our brain with our muscles react to the situations that happen in front of us right this second and we make a decision right away and our bodies react to that decision without missing a beat...and we keep our balance, while we throw our balance off kilter, our brain makes the necessary adjustments to land the way we wanna land, whether we wanna land on our bum, on our feet, on our hands, and when we do land, we could bounce back and unto the next split second decision we gotta make. And we continue that cycle until our opponent has made his decisions to stop us... When mother nature is concerned. Sometimes mother nature gets the best of us...and we die...but sometimes we beat mother nature...as in the extreme skiing example. What computers may do faster than us, is actually use its computing power to solve an equation, or pump the brakes faster than we can because our leg muscles are not faster than hydraulics...but when split second decisions need to be made, and movement corrrection and reaction need to be made that instant, a trained human being is still faster than ANY computer out there....20 000 years of evolution will do that...

There are a few colours on cars that I actually loathe. Gray. I hate gray cars. Its such a drab, boring, sad colour on a car. Especially if its a gray, rainy (or snowy) day outside, nothing makes me sadder and want to commit suicide than driving a gray car on a gray day. Charcoal. What sorcery colour is that? it aint gray, it aint black. Just buy black for phoque's sake!!! (PS...I bought a charcoal more black than gray Acura TL SH-AWD brand new in 2012) The only thing I hate about the car is the colour. And silver. This whole silver bullet, silver train...silver this and silver that is overdone in my opinion... Silver is such a secondary afterthought as compared to GOLD. GOLD is the gold standard. Silver just tries too hard to be relevant. It thinks it could be just as shiny as gold, but gets really dirty really quick. It thinks it could fool people thinking its valuable or something. MEH. Silver is just...soooooooo not gold. But...looking at your car, it is such a stunning car and a stunning colour for it! I like!!! Nice choice. ? PS: I hate brown coloured cars also. Thank the Lord the 70s is loooooong gone.

Joan Jett for me. Her vocals. But there was one song that Lita Ford got me rockin to. I never liked that ballad she did with Ozzy though. I acnt remeber the title of that song. Anyway...Kiss me deadly

I think its just an opinion piece like every other... EVs could very well be selling because its the "cool" thing to have. The Chevy Bolts are doing quite well in the market place, but not as well as their "cooler" brethren, the Tesla Model 3. Why is that? a) is it because the Model 3 is cooler than the Bolt? or b) is it because the Model 3 is actually easier to live with as its a bigger car/appliance. Notice I said appliance as we really do not know if EVs are considered appliances yet as how Toyota Corollas are perceived or just because the Model 3 as a car and sedan does a better job of hauling than the Bolt does. We already do know that Tesla DOES have that cool factor. We will find out soon enough when all these EVs from these several brands come strolling in and then we will see what the market place says and does. I do know why though, all these manufacturers are building all these EVs. So they dont miss out on the next big thing. So they dont get caught with their pants down. Throughout Detroit History, this is a common theme amongst automakers. They dont want to be the one to lag on a hot market and they want to be first to offer a product in that new hot market because the one that enters that market first is usually the one to get all the recognition and benefits. The Ford Mustang and the Chrysler Minivan come to mind. These two products still reap the benefits of being the first ones . I know of several other models but I currently do not remember which ones and I do not know right now where to start to get info to mention more models. Bummer! I got another, the Corvette. But there have been failures too. Ford, when they heard that Chevrolet might do a midengined Corvette in the 1970s, Ford rushed the Pantera just to be the first one to market a domestic, mass produced midengined car. (Because the GT40 was more of a British entry than it was an American one, and it was only a race car at that with a limited production run) But yeah, I gather its the fear of being left out that is driving this need for EVs more so than the actual market place. I still feel that the switch to EVs will happen sooner than most, because I feel that the want for EVs is there. Its just that the RIGHT TYPE of EV has not been given to the people yet. The Bolt and the Leaf are not exactly prom King and Queen here. And some of their hauling capabilities (interior qualities for hauling) as cars are not exactly ideal... The Golf EV is too expensive within comparison to its gasoline and Diesel brother. And so on and so on.

Homemade apple pie and 2 huge tablespoons full of Nutella (yes, just Nutella on that spoon) for me for dessert just now! And there are several Bond girls that my friends and I would like to have a field day with. More like a roll in the hay rather than a field day... But yeah! Bond girls...