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http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/song/readings/inventions_timeline.htm silk, ca. 1300 BCE • 1300 BCE • [received in the West, 552-54 CE] folding umbrella (?) • 300 BCE • [received in the West, 1600s] lodestone, 240 BCE • 200 BCE • shadow figures (?) • 100 BCE • [received in the West, after 1700] BE/BCE lacquer • 100 CE • [received in the West, 1730] peach and apricot [earlier origins in China, but cannot be accurately dated] paper, 105 CE [received in the West, 1150] tea, 264-273 CE • 200 CE • [received in the West, 1600s] Word for porcelain first used • 300 CE • [produced in the West, 1709] sedanchair • 400 CE • [received in the West, 1600s] kite, 549 • 500 CE • [received in the West, 1589] silk, 552-554 [in China, ca. 1300 BCE] • 600 CE • playing cards • 700 CE • [received in the West, 1377] dominoes gunpowder (?) [received in the West, 1330] porcelain described, 851 • 800 CE • [produced in the West, 1709] oldest printed book, 868 [Bible printed in the West, 1456] The Song Dynasty, 960-1279 • 900 • movable type, 1041-1049 • 1000 • [block printing in the West, 1423] compass [received in the West, 1190] zinc used in coins, 1094-1098 [described in the West, 1500s; industrially produced, 1740] orange [earlier origins in China, but cannot be accurately dated] • 1100 • paper, 1150 [in China, 105 CE] explosives, 1161 [gunpowder and cannon in the West, 1330] compass, 1190 [in China, 1000s] • 1200 • • 1300 • gunpowder and cannon, 1330 [in China, 700s] playing cards, 1377 [in China, 700s] lemon [earlier origins in China, but cannot be accurately dated] • 1400 • block printing, 1423 [movable type in China, 1041-1049] Gutenberg's Bible, 1456 [China's first printed book, 868] chaulmoogra oil and ephedrine described, 1552-1578 • 1500 • [received in the West, after 1700s] zinc described [used in coins in China, 1094-1098] kite, 1589 [in China, 549 CE] The use of the following also originated in China in early times, but cannot be accurately dated: peach, apricot, orange, lemon, pomelo, chrysanthemum, tea rose, camellia, azalea, China aster, gingko, "German silver," wallpaper, goldfish. • 1600 • sedanchair [in China, 400s CE] tea [in China, 264-273 CE] folding umbrella [in China, in the 300s BCE] wallpaper manufactured, 1688 • 1700 • porcelain, 1709 [in China, word first used, 300s CE; first described, 851 CE] lacquer produced, 1730 [in China, in the 100s CE] zinc in industrial production, 1740 "German silver" production, 1750 chrysanthemum, tea rose, camellia, azalea, China aster, grapefruit shadow figures [in China, in the 100s BCE] gingko, tung oil, soy bean ephedrine and chaulmoogra oil [described in China, 1552-1578] - I find it funny when "the West" complains about China...and in the end...its about freakin' time "the West" has something technological to teach China....several millennia has passed when all "the West" ever did was learn from China!!!

How I have ALWAYS felt about the alpha Camaro is what Bob Lutz said on August the 4rth, 2017 on RoadandTrack. http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a11471024/bob-lutz-on-why-the-new-ford-mustang-beats-the-camaro/ And to boot, I quickly fell out of love with the Zeta Camaro shortly thereafter when the 3rd Transformers movie came out...so sometime in 2011. Yes...not long after the Camaro went on sale. I was deeply, madly in love when it hit the streets. We had several lustful encounters together but the attraction was short lived. To get my attention...it seemed like every other month there was another Transformers Camaro reference...and it scared to shyte out of me... It felt kinda like this Then the Alpha Camaro came out...and it felt as if Chevy was purposely trying to kill me!

1985 Audi Quattro LWB.. the SWB sport is probably the way to go with the rallye shenanigans, but I appreciate the LWB proportions better. Volvo 850 T5-R Or estate wagon 1998 Volvo C70 coupe 2001 Mazda RX-7 Βathurst R. Japan only model 1930 V16 Cadillac speedster boattail. Yup...Id own and drive this car regularly. Listening to these song loudly And before driving the car...Id hype myself up with this scene

I think even the yuppies will forgo this car. 1. the new age yuppies nowadays prefer to play with gadgets like phones and tablets and fitbit wrist thingys... 2. the few "car enthusiast" yuppies that are around have grown up from BMW sedans and are either a) gone to BMW CUVs like the X1 or X3 along with their house playing wives... b) gone to another German manufacturer...and that yuppie will buy that manufacturer's sedan...but not really...as I think that that yuppie will probably buy that manufacturer's CUV instead. c) dont laugh, but I believe today's car enthusiast yuppie will probably buy a Ford Mustang instead of the 1 Series as its cool to buy a Mustang once again... d) and if that is only if today's car enthusiast yuppie respects the internal combustion engine...because I find that today's car enthusiast yuppie is on the electric vehicle bandwagon...and he is probably on the waiting list for the Model 3 already...or will be soon...

yup. 1971 for the Bolt and 1518 for the Volt. If we go by Musk's words...60 000 plus orders canceled but 1800 per day ordered... Despite Musk saying that Model 3 production wont reach 10 000 per month BEFORE December 2017 and orders taken NOW WONT be delivered until late 2018 early 2019, maybe....the Model 3 STILL TECHNICALLY outsells it...even with all the scare of the Model 3 not being CLOSE to that 35K price tag... Considering that the Model X and Model S costs about DOUBLE what the Volt and Bolt costs...Tesla EV products are neck in neck with Chevy EV products in sales year to date. But yeah...the Bolt has got 1971 for the month of July and 9563 for year to date. Ill just repeat my statement but Ill cross out the barely less than accurate statement.. The REAL joke would be on GM and Chevy FOR NOT MARKETING THE BOLT AND FOR CAPITALIZING ON THE MODEL 3's ABSENCE!!! UNLESS OF COURSE THE MAJORITY OF EV LOVERS DO NOT WANT A CHEVROLET!!! There are some EV lovers that prefer the Chevy...all 1971 for July and 9563 for the year...but MOST EV lovers would prefer to wait a year or two for the Model 3 knowing that the Bolt is available NOW knowing that the Model 3 would probably delivered to them loser to 3 years!!! (Because like you said Balthy...500 000 units by 2018 by Musk's recent words AINT happening) Therefore...even with that faux pas of OVER SELLING a year ago on production numbers the majority ofpeople would STILL rather wait forever for a Tesla than buy a Chevy NOW...

Explain the joke part... Because everything is on schedule of what Musk said about the Model 3. Musk's production numbers for 2018 AND 2019 seem questionable but we are not in 2018 or 2019 yet... We were skeptical for the Model 3's production time-line for 2017...but Musk delivered on that...so... The interior for the BASE Model 3 is a joke? No....that is sour grapes trying to find a problem where there is none. The Bolt....its a fine car that is ready as of now for EV lovers...unlike the Model 3...that much is true... Its just that the Bolt has the wrong badge on it...in other words....it aint a TESLA... Despite 60 000-70 000 orders being canceled...and some of those canceled orders DID end up at Tesla anyway....the Model 3 STILL has an upward waiting list for 450 000 orders for the Model 3. Did some of those canceled orders end up in the Chevy store for either the Bolt or the Volt? THAT would be the REAL question!!! And if not...then the REAL joke would be on GM and Chevy FOR NOT MARKETING THE BOLT AND FOR CAPITALIZING ON THE MODEL 3's ABSENCE!!! UNLESS OF COURSE THE MAJORITY OF EV LOVERS DO NOT WANT A CHEVROLET!!! OH YEAH... ONE OTHER THING I FORGOT... YOU AMERICAN? WHAT GIVES???!!! TESLA IS AN AMERICAN CAR COMPANY!!! YOU SEEM TO PRAISE A NISSAN LEAF MORE THAN TESLA ITSELF??? I DONT UNDERSTAND? all in the name of love Blu!!! The CAPS is to create DRAMA....a cheap way to stir the pot...

Well....they flow together just as well as "future" and "internal combustion engine"

In other words...there are some Australian legal people that want to be...um...given some sort of monetary gratuity hush hush style...

A front wheel drive BMW car for North America. I cant wait for it to finally show up in Canadian and American BMW dealerships.

Fantastic list @Frisky Dingo My list will probably be not as good as yours. Or @dfelt and @Drew Dowdell and @ykX!!! Ill spice up my list as all of you took the best EVs available My list. Tesla Model X P100D My Tesla Model 3 P75D is on order. On schedule to be delivered to me fall 2017. I met Musk recently. He waltzed into my hot dog joint and I served him the best hot dog he ever had and THAT is when he promised me he would concentrate on getting my fully equipped AWD P75D Model 3 in the next 2 months. He will autograph the dash board for me. Proterra bus Ill take mine in electric blue, Frisky!

Yes. Yes. You are right. The red line should travel around the body and there should be tons of plastic body cladding and aggressive body skirts all around. maybe even non-functional hood vents. a double exhaust with four ports but in reality its only a single exhaust. Let us not forget the euro style irrelevant fog lamps because THAT is what defines sports... Im just teasing. I really miss Pontiac style boy racer styling. I LOVED IT. STILL DO! And I do too, think this Passant is BOH-RING!!!

Well, not all is doom and gloom. It seems that in the mining industry...its flourishing https://qz.com/874589/rio-tinto-is-using-self-driving-416-ton-trucks-to-haul-raw-materials-around-australia/ http://www.mining.com/canadian-oil-sands-giant-testing-autonomous-haul-trucks/ http://www.equipmentworld.com/how-cat-is-using-the-793f-haul-truck-to-bring-automation-to-more-machines/

The ONLY way I see for autonomous driving to be implemented and succeed if its done on a CLOSED circuit. Yes...COMPLETELY closed from top to bottom left and right. Like in an underground subway system. And even then...on an UNDERGROUND SUBWAY SYSTEM WHERE THE TRAIN IS ON A TRACK... http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/driving-montreals-newest-metro-azur-is-harder-than-it-looks

There is an autonomous driving crash... The car had an under inflated tire but it hit a pot hole rendering the wheel loose prior to the accident but there was a recall on the steering... Whose at fault? Forensic science would probably solve that mystery... Lawyers on the other hand will paint a different picture depending what fence that lawyer is on... Autonomous driving...some how I dont think no-fault accident reports will fly with this...

All what I just said is WORSE for the car sharing idiocy that Silicon Valley douches also want to throw upon us. The trucking industry is regulated, but not as strict as the aerospace industry...good luck with that on the owners of the would be car sharing industry. ITS EXPENSIVE for the up keep of airplanes, trucks....CARS. Also, in places like Arizona when the area is a dry climate and its safe for metals and metals dont rust... In places like Quebec where the humidity itself corrodes shyte and not to mention the salt used to melt the ice and snow....a fleet of cars would not last long and would need to be replaced sooner... THAT takes BILLIONS of dollars...on top of the maintenance costs...for just that 1 car sharing company. That does not sound like a very profitable business model unless the cost of usage is high....but what consumer wants to part take in such an expensive service....might as well by a jalopy...and if its a PRIVATELY OWNED jalopy...are the autonomous driving systems in tip top condition? Yeah....back to square one... And who will enforce the privately owned jalopy owner to comply? OK...there are rules in play as of now to take old cars off the road... OK...as we know, electronics dont have to be that old to fail...so how will the inspections happen? Cars that fail will be off our roads? Good luck in telling people that that they wont be able to drive their 3 year old car because a sensor is fried.

For the record, if I was not clear enough in my other posts, I dont think autonomous driving will a) be released anytime soon b) be all that safe anytime soon because 1. autonomous driving, as discussed before, is a long ways out before autonomous driving decisions made by artificial intelligence become rational enough to be released upon humanity a) there arent enough examples and variables to program artificial intelligence, and there never will be even though Silicon Valley douches have gone ape shyte collecting all kinds of data the last 2-3-4-5 years. b) aerospace industry auto pilot systems have collected all kinds of data the last 40 years...real crashes, experimented crashes, near misses, perfect flights all from that little black box only to refuse to implement full on auto-pilot on commercial airplanes....and we all know the traffic up in the air is not as nearly as congested. c) LITIGATION THIS IS THE BIGGEST HURDLE in my honest opinion MORE SO than inclement weather engineering hurdles. In the aerospace industry, sometimes an airplane crash is not so cut and dry to lay blame so was at fault, and in the aerospace industry, their are a lot more regulations for safety and maintenance to be followed and more or less, the airline industry follows quite closely. Even the manufacturers of these aircraft are held accountable to the strictest possible degree regarding manufacturing standards... Who is to be responsible for infrastructure failure? Quebec's roads are HORRIBLE Michigan's roads are WORSE!!! Just because autonomous driving exists....it does not mean pot holes will cease to exist...a pot hole screws up suspension systems and wheel ball joints and stuff... The cities dont pay for civilian damages now...good luck with that going forward for autonomous driving. Will we as citizens keep on agreeing on higher taxes for the infrastructure up keep? We dont take care of our cars now...will the government IMPOSE safety and maintenance regulations on our vehicles as the FCC does with the aerospace industry? I have NEVER heard of this talk regarding autonomous driving legalities...only about what crash avoidance decisions artificial intelligence talks about what decisions should be acceptable. But I KNOW that MAINTENANCE is a HUGE problem regarding car crashes... Brakes not being up to snuff...air bags being disabled on purpose or out right removed, ABS systems disabled, tires being bald...in the aerospace industry, all that is hardly an issue any more because of stricte regs... In the trucking industry...there are safety and maintenance regs to follow and yet...even on this area...not very well regulated...

We all just acknowledged with our own anecdotes backed by Balthy's both links that autonomous driving engineering is a long ways off...especially with Balthy's both links as both links expose the debilitating weaknesses of autonomous driving. Whether it be train tracks or fields...for the most part of an autonomous driving voyage in those scenarios, traffic of any kind is at a minimum and the very minute instance of interference renders the system vulnerable. And in those scenarios let me remind ourselves...as with autopilot mode for airplanes up in the air, the two variables that are constant and calculated is that the speed of the autonomous driving object remains the same for what....90% of the journey? And that the other autonomous driving objects are known and well followed in the computer autonomous driving system before hand. With cars...those two variables SEEM to be constant but as we know, there are a few more autonomous driving objects on the circuit than on a train track or field or up in the air and as we all know, because of those links, that life is never a perfect obstacle free journey. I wanna know with what balls do these Silicon Valley douchebags have to impose such a hazardous thing upon us when agriculture and aerospace still has not perfected this and autonomous driving has been in these fields for 20 plus years. I think for the aerospace industry its closer to 40 years. Modern Military radar systems could see several targets at once and deploy the necessary autonomous driving missiles to destroy targets all at once...and even then....not so precise...and even then...with a human in the pilot's seat. It is said that the next generation of military jets are to be drones...but that is a good 20 years away... Silicon Valley douchebags want to impose autonomous driving cars in a shorter time frame than airplanes....WTF???!!!

I had forgotten that the agriculture segment has been probing and exploring and actually being full on active in this autonomous driving realm. One aspect that I know will NEVER overcome in this realm of autonomous driving was just confirmed by reading this from the Balthy's John Deere link: In a wintery environment where snow, slush, mud wreak havoc on the visibility of any cameras and the delicate circuitry of the sensors... Where condensation also wreaks havoc on the camera lens and the salt to melt the snow also screws up and erodes any electrical contacts and messes up the conductivity.... Where the roads are covered in all that muck... The cameras and sensors will NEVER be able to "see" anything in a scene like this where there are no perfect lanes for cars to travel and the cars themselves are riddled with that filth and to boot...autonomous cars will also slip and slide (two cars slip and slide in that gif...) So when all that mess as snow, ice and slush on our roads is clearly present...and there are NO PREDICTABLE AND CALCULATED VARIABLES TO PROGRAM the artificial intelligence and the sensors and cameras cant see and feel...how does autonomous driving succeed in that reality? IT CANT AND IT WONT!!!

1. Cadillac CT6 Hybrid 2. Karma Revero 3. Cadillac ELR 4. Acura NSX 5. Ferrari LaFerrari 6. Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid

Car #1-American Muscle car, American traditional restaurant of some sort. https://orangejulep.ca/ A Montreal landmark. Back in the day, girls used to roller skate the food to your car...yes yes...SoCal milkshake&burgers style. I never got to experience this Richie Cunningham~Happy Days epoch , but every Wednesday in the summer... And a photo when the cars were NOT considered classics Since this is a Montreal landmark and this spot calls for an American Muscle Car and I love the GM A-Body, Ill choose an A Body that was only sold in Canada(not really...its just a 1969 Chevelle badge engineered to look like a Pontiac) A 1968 Pontiac Beaumont 396SD.. Or a 1970 Dodge Coronet 440 Superbee Car #2, Italian car, Italian food-for those who do not like Imports, you may substitute an American car. Ill do Greek restaurant but with an Italian car. But many many original Italian owned authentic Italian pizzerias exist in Montreal's Little Italy where Id be happy to go to as well. But I am Greek so Ill toot toot toot the Greek horn! Ill do two Greek restaurants. These two restaurants are always competing for the best souvlakis in Montreal. The second restaurant also has three locations but the link is of the original and is the most authentic Greek atmosphere of them all. http://marathonsouvlaki.ca/en/index.html http://souvlakivillagegrec.ca/ These were pretty popular in Greece back in the day. Id bring one over from Europe to go drive around Montreal when the desire is for the family to swing by old Greek or Italian neighborhoods. 1969 Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV Car #3. Vintage 4 Door sedan of some sort, restaurant should be some sort of ethnic food. A restaurant thread and Montreal and Schwartz' Deli HAS to be included. Another Montreal icon. http://schwartzsdeli.com/ca/en/ Jewish people loved those Cadillacs back in the day. So do I. Cadillac it shall be. 1992 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham D'Elegance Car #4, Modern sedan of some sort, restaurant should be something with a good entree below $25.... My kids love this local chain of restaurants. Quebec style rotisserie chicken. Poulet St-Hubert BBQ. http://www.st-hubert.com/index.en.html 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD or a newer ride...but IMO, a similar ride 2018 Buick Regal GS Car #5, SUV over $75,000 current market value, Fine dining. Montreal is blessed with great restaurants... http://www.restaurant-toque.com/en One of Canada's best and it put Montreal fine dining back on the map. 23 years strong with impressing American and European tourists alike. Many aspiring young chefs have passed through this restaurant graduating and moving forward to many world renown restaurants all over the world. Right at the heart of Montreal smack in the middle of Downtown and Old Montreal, one could shop in the expensive boutiques of Downtown Montreal, walk over the short romp to Old Montreal and take in Montreal's and Canada's history...then eat dinner at Toqué and when the the dining is complete, all that is left to decide is what night club or bar scene one wants to attend... in Old Montreal or Downtown...to get there, a modern trendy romp has to be made in a modern trendy Tesla X. And since this is Montreal...the night life is hot hot hot! Bars, dance clubs, strip clubs. Formula One race in June. Formula E Race in July. Jazz Festival. And much much more Anyhoo...these are the rides Id be promenading the streets of Montreal during these crazy crazy crazy summer nights of Grand Prix week-end and the whole summer actually. During the exotic times with them Ferraris and Lambos Alfa Romeo tipo 33 Stradale During the Muscle Cars days 1970 Olds 442 W-30 And if I was single in my 20s again trying to pick-up sweet sweet Montreal cuties Ferrari LaFerrari. It dont matter if the girl you are trying to pick up knows nothing about cars...It dont matter if she hates cars and is an environmentalist feminazi that also is a feminist and hates masculinity...they will drop their panties quicker than the LaFerrari could reach 60 MPH because they all recognize that prancing horse and they all want to ride in one.

This one is PHOQUING GREAT!!! Ill do mine tonight! Ill marinate some ideas over the course of the day.

Yeah.... Just like every new generation Vette that comes out...there is almost always a new engine that goes along with it... There are exceptions of course when a new engine goes in the last of the old generation...but in general...a new gen Vette appears, so does a new engine... And in between, HP bumps and tweaks are offered and sometimes new engines are introduced mid-cycle...but usually...a decade goes by with the same generation platform so sometimes new engines are introduced to compliment the base engines along the way... Standard industry wide practice I would assume...and GM with the Corvette is no different... Why is this perplexing you?

This is just pure, unadulterated trolling.

I love this car!