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    That is debatable.
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    The interior of a Model S... This discussion reminds me of how many whined about the Corvette's interior all these decades. Like Balthy said....its a nice enough interior for a 60K car..not for a 100K+ car... The thing is, like the Vettes of the past, true believers look past that because the real meat of the matter resides what is underneath the body shell.... Nobody buys the Vette for its fine Italian leather appointments... Nobody buys the Tesla Model S for the pampered Grey Poupon amenities... Its fine just how it is. It is personalized and it does have the option of opting for a slightly higher quality interior.... I dont know how better it is than the lowest level one as my partner chose the very lowest possible interior option on his P85D and that is the only experience I have with a Model S but to tell you the truth... Like a C5 or C6 Vette or a Zeta Camaro, it aint as bad as some of us are portraying it to be. Its OK....nothing special. But it aint a deal breaker as the tech involved with the Model S more than makes up for the lack of Grey Poupon... Like a C5 or C6 Vette, its the hardware that makes the car...and that is where the 100K price tag comes in.... Im sure that Tesla could have gone the Pagani or Spyker route and given us handcrafted interiors, but that would also have raised the price tag but about 150%.
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    Logical. Logical once more.
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    I will take a look at my partner's Model S to see if this phenomenon is present on his car. I will report on Saturday or Sunday. I never noticed anything and he never told me about it.
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    @balthazar This article proves your point even further!!! I concede ENTIRELY my position I held and Im more in line with yours! What is troubling me more is this: (Not the fact that the misconception exists) But: In today's so-called "information age" where information is literally at a touch of a button...people are MISINIMFORMED about ANYTHING MORE THAN EVER IN HISTORY OF MAN-KIND!!! (an exaggeration yes...its my dramatic Greek heritage!) How the HELL could people be so misinformed is beyond my comprehension...
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    In no time you will master it! You seem quite enthused about this whole shifting thing...passion makes you learn faster! There was always something odd about the Pontiac G8 to me. I loved it...but not with passion! I think its because it was not aggressive enough in looks to me. The Chevy SS comes along and it looked to me even less aggressive. But, like you said, we don't get this one...so I cant really judge it. Over the last couple of years though, the SS has grown on me in ways the G8 couldn't. Maybe its because the SS has become the G8 GXP with the magnetic shocks... Maybe its because the interior of the SS looks like it belongs in an Oldsmobile rather than a Chevrolet or a Pontiac. Maybe its because its forbidden fruit up in Canada! I don't know if Id buy one...V8 RWD in Quebec is still not ideal....but who knows...maybe Id try to swing one now that its gonna go away! PS: I drove by the GM dealership the other day...and there was a metallic blue 2.0T Camaro outside....I stopped by to see it... Do NOT tell El Kabong....but I kinda started lusting over it! Maybe its the idea of the Exorcist that is getting me giddy over it! I don't know... Muscle Cars with cartoonish names get my attention! The Judge. Hellcat Road Runner Demon (part 1 and part 2) the Exorcist Super Snake Macho Trans Am 4-4-2 GNX Same with the cartoonish graphics...
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    LOL! What...are you implying that you are farting and you are equating that to French Quebecois Joual? That is funny! Its OK...it goes with your interests:
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    Greek Canadian... Greek Canadian I dont know where you get this 'nice guy, give peace a chance' idea from?
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    Okay....
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    @balthazar You certainly have defended your case very well. I may have to concede my position a tad and agree with that statement above because logic and reality dictates I need to do so. All falls with Tesla's ability to deliver 380 000 Model 3s and the 100 000 give or take Model S/X on time.... (I guess when we read stuff, we all understand what we want to see and yes, Im talking about myself as I glanced over that bolded part you highlighted, even though I read that part too) Yeah, I admit, I get blinded by the light sometimes! Thanx for taking your time with me!
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    He always had a Model S as a loaner before. He never asked why they gave him the Durango. In Quebec, during this time and in December, we change our tires from winter to summer/all season and vice versa as its mandatory to drive with winter tires during December 20 to March 20. So the dealerships are swamped with work. And no...his Model S only needed regular maintenance work...and change his tires.
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    *SIGH* They are investing in their OWN charging infrastructure. They are investiong in tow more new models. They are going to have a successor to the Roadster. They are still spending billions on research and development. The investors are aware...Musk is aware...of what is needed to be done...there is a plan in place...yada yada yada... When the Model 3 finally begins production and deliveries start to happen....Musk said that the spending will be reduced...in the interim...Tesla plans to raise https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-23/tesla-capital-raise-seen-near-as-musk-burns-through-cash-coffers 10 billion dollars in R&D since 2014... 2.5 billion in just last years 4rth quarter alone... It aint ONLY because the Model S is not profitable...the Model S IS profitable...but all that noise surrounding R&D money, re-investing in the company through their battery factory or charging network...the free charging that Tesla gives its users...
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    Tucker....never got off the ground. OK...there are conspiracy theories to why that is and it seems like the same conspiracy theories and rpetrators with are at it with Tesla Put that aside though.... Tesla even if 50% cancel on the Model 3 for it rising to a price tag of 42K.... THAT would still be 190 000 Model 3s (because there has been some cancellations already and I think the number is 380 000) plus the 100 000 Model S and Model X sales..... That is 290 000 cars sold for next year. While that figure may be less than the 500 000 that Tesla is thinking about, its still a number that surpasses many 100 year old brands! Keep in mind that I dont think 50% ore people will cancel on their pre-orders and let us not forget that Tesla will open up orders again for it!!! OK....Sorry Drew, I did this post AFTER you said to continue on with Mitsubishi... So Mitsubishi....
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    Semantics You know what I meant by it and how it pertains to Tesla. When I said that Tesla announced 2 more models in a semi-truck and an urban pick-up truck....taking away more billions from them either from a lending stand point or from a lack of profit, and consequently prolonging the time in which Tesla would actually be profitable, this announcement would peeve off investors and hence sell off their shares.... We did not hear that investors are mad and itchy and hence why I say the investors are it in for the long haul.
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    SURE! But they are in it for the long haul! SURE they do! They got the money, they dont agree with it, they sell the stock BACK to Tesla, or just dump it cutting their losses and move on! I aint a fanboy. Im a fan, not a fanboy! Yes its reality what you state, but its also a reality that YOU skew towards the negative side of things! I also see the same reality YOU see, but I skew it more to the positive side of things! This is me regarding Tesla This is you Top part You are of the glass half empty type and Im of the glass half full type Bottom part I agree with everything you said 100% Especially the lingering fart part!
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    OK....15K and I stand corrected! Like I said though, and this from YOUR link: Reservation holders are preparing to order some of the bells and whistles to reach 50K The others well...7K more...like I said...NOT a deal breaker!
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    PS: Nothing was announced that the price will go up just as it was announced that the delivery dates are on schedule.... If I were you, Id stop being pessimistic! 400 000 aprox. orders are to be delivered on schedule at about 35K The price may move, what? 1 thousand? 2 thousand? 5 thousand? Or it may not move at all. It wont move 10 thousand! You think people will cancel if it goes up by 5K? HA! You underestimate the power of Tesla's image! YOU said it yourself....35K is NOT cheap.... People are already comfortable with 35K ordering it, meaning they are ready and eager for those payments....another 5K maybe, after saving more cash for it for 1.5-2 years WONT be a deal breaker! YOU are wishing it goes up and YOU are wishing it be a deal breaker, but there is nothing that has been hinted or suggested that this is reality!
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    the Well, there are board meetings for shareholders.... Unless any of us have attended any of them concerning Tesla, we will never know what shareholders want from Tesla... But...this was announced... I doubt that this project would be announced if investors wanted CASH right NOW!!! This is another billion dollar project...money that Tesla dont have.... Yup...Investors must have agreed to greenlight this!
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    Model S...long in the tooth? Ill give you that! However, sales just keep climbing for it! The Model X just looks weird. I dont know if that model will ever be a lusted after product! Nothing to do with EV lustability but everything to do with aesthetics!
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    500 000 for 2018.... It looks as if Tesla will be close to that figure.... That easily surpasses many car brands even if they only deliver 75% of the Model 3s (and it looks like as if they are on time this time on their promise of delivery dates) and 100 000 Model S and Xs, that would be aprox. 450 000 cars sold for 2018... I wouldnt be trying to diss Tesla right about now! Because their business model is of a fanatical frenzy for their automobiles which if nothing else, should be admired at a marketing business model stand-point!!!
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    As far as Tesla losing money.... *SIGH* Its a tired argument... 1. Tesla is still the one to fund MOSTLY their OWN Charging Infrastucture...some of those losses...or lack of profit...is because Tesla is still growing its business... 2. Its a moot point when INVESTORS ARE WILLING TO INVEST IN TESLA....THEY BELIEVE IN THE PRODUCTS.....YES....PRODUCTS with an "S"....as in PLURAL.... Tesla announced a SEMI-TRUCK and a PICK-UP TRUCK for the NEAR FUTURE!!! LIke I said...Tesla is still growing their business....it takes a shyte load of years with lack of profit.... The thing is....Tesla is far from giving its investors vapor ware! So yeah.....Tesla will continue losing money for a short while.....and Im willing to bet the investors KNOW THIS ALREADY and DONT GIVE A SHYTE!!!! Because they believe in the company.... Why? Because when close to 400 000 orders in a week are made on a promise of another model to be sold alongside the other 2 on an artist's sketch, it tells the investors that actual buyers exist and those buyers are nuts for Tesla... IN OTHER WORDS....ITS A NON-ISSUE!!! So let us not try to pass it off as one!!! Yes yes....with the Model 3, Tesla needs to make some money..... Tesla announced a SEMI-TRUCK... Tesla is looking to conquer another market....that too takes money....Im sure the investors are on board with that undertaking too!!!
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    Arent most commodities on the stock market overpriced? Arent most commodities on the stock market priced on speculation that sometimes makes them overpriced and those that arent overpriced, well, those are the ones that are secretive and insider trading happens prior to fixing the hike where the people in the know hock up all the available stock or vice versa where people in the know know and fix a price drop and off load their stock? Why are we so hung up on Tesla's so-called over-priced over-speculated stock when a President (Ronald Regean) enabled Wallstreet to do this time and time again! There was a Hollywood movie from the 80s that glorified this A sequel to it recently and a pseudo historical/biographical one about a real Gordon Gecko type...Wolf of Wall Street We are acting like General Motors or FoMoCo never had any favorable IPOs in their 100 plus history...
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    I just realized.... I NEVER COMMENTED! I approved but I never told you how awesome your car is and for you to enjoy her! Well, your car is exceptionally AWESOME! ENJOY THE HELL OUTTA OF IT!
  24. oldshurst442
    Hey Surreal...we dont troll, we gremlin! Maybe for this month and moving forward, the Camaro FINALLY exorcised its Demons! (yes I know! Shyster Hennessey versus straight from Auburn Hills stock...still phoquing cool, though!) (Hey, Shelby, we need another Super Snake!)
  25. oldshurst442
    LOL!!! And YOU just expressed what I want to express in 2 short paragraphs!!! Unlike me, I wrote a book over a span of 2 posts! But yeah....I 100% agree with you!
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