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You and I are in agreement here. The F part of FCA is f@#k ing douchey The C part of FCA is crappy. But since Marchionne is in charge of all this shyte and his company that he runs is based in Europe somewhere and not Auburn Hills, USA, than I absolve all wrong doing done only on the Chrysler part. The FIAT part could just suck it!

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The way I figure it with cars like a small in size and stature like the ATS, a small in size Corvette-like Cadillac, a sub-ATS model which would be even smaller in size and stature to the ATS...and so forth and so forth... You see, I like Buddy Holly. I LOVE him in fact. l Love his music. I don't want him to look like a liar all these years ago when he said his love is bigger than a Cadillac. And he wants to show it when his love interest drives him back. So...Im gonna tell you how its gotta be... BIG CADILLAC CARS...full of PRESTIGE. No...NO SMALL CADILLAC CARS. THOSE SUCK!

@balthazar I guess there is a limit to one's passion. This car needs deep pockets to restore her back to life. Right? (And lots of time and energy I bet...) Just for the fact that you drove 6.5 hours...400-500 some odd miles just to check her out impresses me. In the winter no less... She does look good though. It would be a shame if the crusher got a hold of her.

@ccap41 I could see that... I do prefer the Murano over the Terrain. Front view, side profile, 3/4 profile. All better looking than the Terrain when compared to the Murano. The floating area is better done in the Murano as well. The Murano's back window also looks a tad larger than it. Not by much though... I prefer the Ford Edge over all of them myself. I just don't get it...why the trend to have small back windows...in cars and in SUVs...WTF???!!! @dfelt Yeah...the guvment conspiracy to protect us... Trump will do a fine job doing that Ill tell ya. He will tweet our enemies to death blasting them they are over rated terrorists! And no...unfortunately I don't remember Time Cop for some reason....

Oh boy!!! About this The back window! Its an SUV.... Arent SUVs supposed to have a space and visibility advantage over its sedan counterpart? That is one small slit of a window back there... Unless of course there is Cadillac CT6's rear view mirror camera available for this thing, I aint too impressed.

OK... Ill do another and this time it will be 100% legit. Not 99.95% legit. The whole 100% All new vehicles. 2 from each brand that are produced currently. We will stick to Buick for the favorites. Cadillac. We will do Cadillac as my favorite. (Hey...its GM, and GM is my favorite car manufacturer.) The CTS-V and the CT6 platinum TTV6... And my worst brand. I HATE BMW... So... M235 And M6 Grand Coupe

@Stew@frogger Yup. Mandatory snow tires from Dec. 15 to March 15. in Quebec. Hey frogger: I was under the impression that Ontario was tinkering with the idea of making it a law for mandatory snow tires in the winter. Its not happening?

OK...Ill do another as well. More legit this time around. I was looking at my scale 1:18 die cast car collection, and I realized that I have more GM cars than any other brand. More importantly, Chevrolet seems to dominate all GM brands in my collection. So I will do Chevrolet as my favorite. Ill pick the SS as my affordable muscle car machine. And the Impala LTZ midnight edition as my luxury sedan needs. Since I live in Canada, and the SS is not available to me, I could always choose a Vette, but Inaint a Vette kinda guy, so Ill have to go retro on you all...a restomod of some sorts. We might as well keep it everything Impala. The SS is a Caprice in other parts of the world, and the Caprice was the luxury version of the platform while the Impala was the sporty version... And the one brand that I hate the most, even more so than Toyota...its gotta be SAAB. But SAAB does no longer exist. Its still SAAB. There are a few Toyotas that I LOVE. There is not one bloody SAAB that I like. I hate them all!!! Even when GM owned them. ESPECIALLY when GM owned them!!! Here is one SAAB I would love to own. Here is another. I hate SUVs, but this one is really an Oldsmobile Bravada And I will do a legit car entry. SAAB 9-5 I heard it was a very good car...

Na. Im done with this. This aint a political thread, nor do I wanna offend anybody in here. These folk in here at Cheers and Gears are nice folk. I like to continue being in good standing with them. What I posted in here about this subject the last 24 hours is just for us a North American community, is for us to think about what is going on, and for us to improve our freedoms. The little we have left. But at the very least, we could continue to be a multicultural society and continue to respect each other. The USA and Canada has lead the way for 100 years plus...let us continue on that trajectory.

Ha! Keep turning a blind eye to it...use semantics to keep on turning a blind eye to it... http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/the-kkk-is-slowly-rising-again/news-story/98e196460ea63e7469881a0306422040 http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/us/klan-numbers/ While members only tally up to 5000-8000, like you said, a far cry from the million that it once had...white power feelings are growing...especially after Obama's second term. And like I said, more and more visible Brown muslims are immigrating to the US. Those numbers will increase substantially in the months and years to come... Plus...while muslim terrorism is nothing new, its OLDER than the KKK. Try hundreds of years, ask an Armenian or a Greek, or a Persian or Egyptian or Syrian...the ancient Persian or Egyptian or Syrian where they were conquered by Islam and forced into that religion...or a Greek and Armenian where muslim Turcs had us enslaved for 400 years... OK....it seems like Im making an argument for you... Try this on for size... In the 1920s...1 MILLION KKK members existed in a North America that had approximately 100 million people. That includes black people... We will say its 1%... Today the USA has 320 million... Could the KKK grow to 3.2 million members? I dont know, you dont either... The real question is, do you really want to find out, or do you want to prevent it? By negating and minimizing the KKK and by fueling fear about ISIS only enables the KKK even more. No...I disagree. The KKK is on EQUAL level as ISIS. REALLY??? Nazi worshipping??? At least ISIS is fighting for their own cause...as blind and misguided those causes might be...it aint as delusional as nazi worshipping... Do you want me to post pics of Nazi death camps?

You may want to learn about North American history... Its true that up here in Canada, we really did not have that kind of hatred on our streets. But the KKK still exists today. Its head was cut off and its power was diminished some what, but over the last 20 years, the KKK is picking up steam and flourishing and it might actually see bigger levels of popularity than it enjoyed 100 years ago. And because Brown people are immigrating into the USA more and more, and more whites are being lied to about said Brown people to make them scared $h!less about Brown people, the KKK will not only continue killing Black folk, but today they also have Brown people to target. Dont believe? Its OK... The news is out there for you to read about.

I dont know about Westboro Baptists, but the KKK... The KKK, terrorized many many people for over 100 years. And although they did not strap bombs on themselves to blow up who they hated, they did however lynch people. They shot and murdered people. They strapped people on long ropes tied to the back bumper of cars and dragged them. They are indeed a hatred group. They are indeed a terrorist group. What you did judging people as 'liberals' is exactly what is wrong with today's hatred... Name calling and judging and pointing fingers without actually trying to end the hatred. All hatred. Turning a blind eye to America's hatred groups and only concentrating on Muslims is NOT how the hatred will leave us... Its hypocrisy at its best. Comparing and pulling out similarities is actually trying to understand what is going on... ISIS decapitates people. KKK shoots guns and does other barbaric things. ISIS ideals are based on religion. And the hatred for all things West. KKK ideals are based on race and on religion as well. And the comparisons if we dig further only get eerily similar... Cowardly attempts to hide their identity.... And you know what is MORE scarier for the KKK than it is for ISIS. There is a faction of the KKK that idolizes Adolf Hitler... Be a black man in the early 1900s where the KKK was protected and whole towns were part of the Klan...police officers, judges, sheriffs, teachers, store keepers... basically a black man's entire encounters with the white man by day time, and his worst nightmare by nighttime.... Be a black man during those times and then tell me ISIS is not like the KKK...

Sorry Mr. DFELT, but the irony is too good for me to pass up... I apologize to many people I will be offending here. But it is to prove a point. A latino gunman born in New Jersey, was in the American Armed Forces stationed in Anchorage just went on a shooting spree in a Florida airport... Talk about all the Muslim terrorist acts you want, here is yet another public shooting spree the US is going through committed by AMERICANS KILLING OTHER AMERICANS fueled solely on mental illness and for the fact that gun responsibility in the States does not exist. Want to talk about how Muslim Terrorist acts committed and are not chastised by other Muslims? How about trying to figure out how to stop public shooting sprees where Americans kill other Americans by the dozens first, then we could talk about Muslims...lets take care of an American terrorist problem that kills Americans and let us not use the Constitution to defend gun abuse in America first, then we could tackle the Muslim terrorist problem as American on American gun violence kills more innocent American lives than Muslims do...

And muscle cars. Dont forget about the muscle cars. The kids with the wife went tobogganing today. I didnt go. I was a wuss today. Too cold. I wasnt in the mood to freeze my nuts off. Maybe Im coming down with a cold as the weather does not really bother me when it comes to outdoor activities.

Also... This song is not a rebel song. This song is Sunday Bloody Sunday... I guess only Muslims commit terrorist acts and only Muslims defend such acts...us whites, we never commit such horror and we definitely dont turn a blind eye to it...

Good 'ol Satanic Ozzy... Who would have thunk it that Ozzy aint so Satanic after all. Maybe today's music should change, like it did in the 1960s...and in the early 1990s for that matter... and one of my personal favorite singers of all time... Im not gonna spend my life being a colour. Or a religion. Or a sexual orientation. Or a gender... lot of hate going on today...its sickening!!!

Hippies arose because the West, sometimes, gets a little too bigoted. The West, sometimes, wants everything to be...so white. So male and white and in power. With dumb assed puritan thoughts of purity... Peace and Love. That is the message. Peace and Love. Its hard for peace or love to flourish when puritan Anglo white males want all the money, power and they rule with an iron fist!!! And they want it to always stay white and male... Lawyers arose when everybody that is not white or male and revolted against said white males and started defending themselves against these white males. Blacks wanted equality. Laws had to be put in place for blacks to be equal to white pure males. Women burned their bras in protest. Oh my pure white Anglo God...women wore no bras???!!! How sinful that is to maybe a nipple show through a T-Shirt, so laws were put into place for women to be at an equal setting as white puritan Anglo males...(irony as said puritan Anglo males judge Islam for their versions of female repressions...)

It registered. You could thank Trump for it registering...

I was born in 1973. Too young to remember the peace and love hippy stuff going on. However, I read up on it. Love the songs in this era. Love those muscle cars, man. OK...hippies hated muscle cars...phoque them!!! I feel like hippy 1960s rock should make a comeback. Certainly what we are experiencing today sure is similar to what was going on in the mid-to-late '60s.. Racial tensions. War. No. No cover songs by today's groups and singers. The same songs that were released then will do. With the exception of this one..awesome rendition. AND JUST BRING BACK OUR GODAMNED MUSCLE CARS BACK!!! 2 DOOR V8 RWD REAL MID-SIZED COUPE CARS..

In reality...the ATS and the CT# successor to the ATS and all other sub ATS models JDN wants to introduce need to be re-evaluated... Cadillac needs volume. I get that. Cadillac also needs prestige and models that exude prestige. They dont need cars that are priced at mid level Buick prices(or worse in thinking that those same prices are high Chevy prices) and they dont need super high priced cars either just yet. What they do need is what Casa does mention all the time... Cadillac needs more variants to what they already have and possibly cars that are at the cheapest end of the spectrum, the very lowest they should go, is at the ATS level, but better thought out...and I guess the CT# replacement does just that. Not too many SUVs/CUVs more, but enough to satisfy the demand for them, which should satisfy Cadillac coffers in the volumes they seek... They need to sweat out the details. THIS is the area that needs the MOST attention. The details that make a top tier luxury car maker... Paint jobs, dealer service, interior trim hardware, new and fresh ideas that re-invent luxury for the 21st century... The Escala 3 piece suit interior and trunk material is exactly that thought process that Cadillac needs to continue on and then will not only a sub ATS model will be better praised, but a supercar too... Cadillac also needs to start leading again. A supercar is only following in the footsteps of... Take your pic... Acura... Lexus... Audi... Acura had the NSX...lasted only 1 generation. At least it survived a decade plus. It took an eternity to bring it back. They did it right. But will this one last a decade? At least the NSX 1st gen DEFINED what ALL Acuras were to be...will generation 2 have the same effect? Lexus and the LFA... Great car. Over thought. Over engineered. Over budgeted. Over hyped. Great engine. No balls to re-use the engine. Killed off quicker than the XLR and forgotten by the public and Lexus that it ever existed. Audi...and the R8. Lamborghini all over this car but Audi was smart enough to Audi-fy it substantially...and what a car the 1st gen was... Im not so sure the 2nd generation will see the same amount of greatness and reverence... I see a pattern here. I dont want that pattern to be repeated by Cadillac...and Cadillac already failed with 1 attempt... I just had to plug away again, this time on a slightly different angle. A slight twist in thinking but same message along the same lines...

That part alone is worth 1000 upvotes!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_ATS That would be EXACTLY 5 years we were shown the ATS and 4.5 years its been sold... Maybe you should go back into your momma's womb and learn better mathematics... Semantics...I know...but Casa, when arrogant, expect arrogant responses... Just wipe this post clean off your radar, its OK...I know you secretly read my posts anyway...