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Yup...I wanted to comment on this. It goes to show you how the rest of the planet seems to want to embrace electricity while us in North America are dragging our feet. IRONY...at the turn of the last century...the 1900s...when the industrial revolution was starting to heat up...England and the USA was at the forefront of this revolution and the USA as a young nation exploded unto the scene with its youthful enthusiasm regarding revolutionary life style changes... Sure there were other nations that were industrializing themselves, but not at the fervour and rate the USA was. At the turn of this century...The USA is like a caveman, grunting and scratching his testicles reminiscing about the good 'ole days of making America great again...but little do they understand that moving forward into this world of electrification WILL make America great again... FORD of Europe and GM of Europe are in this with the other European car makers... You add Tesla into the mix and you got the NEW Detroit Big 3 LEADING the way... TESLA is the GIANT in this and GM is just about the biggest automobile car manufacturer again...Hyundai might have something to say about that...but it don't matter...GM still beats Hyundai in innovations...IF ONLY AMERICA UNCUFFS GM TO LEAD THE WAY IN THE USA AS WELL!!! Yes with ELECTRIFICATION... Johan de Nysschen wants to take Cadillac racing with fossil fuel technology... What a BACKWARRDS step that is... There is an F1 Electric car race in the making as we speak... Cadillac should do that instead...but NO! Americans still believe the V8 motor is the way to go... The V8 motor my friends is a dying breed.... Tesla has changed that mind set...

OK... Now for a more commoner hot 100 list. 1958 Plymouth Fury 1966-1967 Pontiac GTO convertible Any Ford Mustang...minus the Mustang II 1974-1978 years. And the ugly 1973 model year. Pictured here is a new one. 1932 and 1933 Ford Hot Rods. Any Chevrolet Impala that actually was produced as a stylish, luxurious for a Chevy family hauler. From 1958 to 1970. Then from 2014 to today. 1994-1996 could be included... 1967 pic.

Unfortunately Ive never owned a top 100 hot car that deserves to be on a list where people actually would agree that the cars I owned in question are truly top 100 hot cars. SO...here is what Id start with. Any Cadillac Eldorado from 1957 all the way to 1970. Ill post a pic of a chopped 1957 version. Early 1960s Lincoln Continental 1955 Chrysler C300 1965 Buick Riviera. 1964 works too, but its hotter when those headlights are hide-a-ways 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado 1936 Mercedes Benz 500K 1935-1936 Duesenberg SSJ...or an early 30s boat tail J

OK....I read the article fast and kinda misinterpreted the existing established chassis part of this whole equation. I still stand by my rant though, minus the waste of money part as really it wont cost Cadillac that much money. I stand by what I said about racing will not cure what is ailing Cadillac even if racing does indeed bring exposure. People that might one day buy a Cadillac TODAY and in the NEAR FUTURE dont care about racing....irony as this whole RWD Arts and Science project when it began almost 2 decades ago was what people wanted THEN for cars and for Cadillac..maybe. That ship has sailed...that was 20 years ago. Today, my guy feeling tells me rich folk are aching to buy a modern Cadillac Land Yacht. Not necessarily a wobbly floaty Cadillac and not necessarily a speed demon either... Escalade SUV extra premium luxury and Ciel convertible and El Miraj personal coupe and 4 door sedan in my opinion is what is missing from Cadillac rather than an NSX or LFA or SLS type halo car. The sports cars they have in the V Series cars The pedigree to legitimize these V Series cars through this racing endeavor wont do too much to bring people into the showrooms...a sexy long sleek 4 door convertible will....and a dealership experience that is akin to a boutique car maker to complete the package.... Instead of going racing, maybe they should go to a beauty salon for a dealership experience make-over... WITH 1 HUGE EXCEPTION... if Cadillac went ELECTRIC MOTOR racing...THEN it would be beneficial to its image going forward.... TECHNOLOGY.....THAT is what got them the Dewar award a 100 years ago.... Precision engineering was a breakthrough then and was part of technological advancement...

You see...this is where I think Cadillac is spinning its wheels stupidly going nowhere fast! MONEY WASTED BIG TIME!!! 1. Cadillac's image woes have nothing to do with having a racing heritage... First of all, Cadillac hardly has a racing heritage. What? Once or twice in their 100 plus year history Cadillac raced in maybe 5-6 races? 2. Cadillac's image woes have something to do with an award that was won by them 100 years ago and them not meeting those standards for quite some time... The Dewar award...and how Cadillac aint the Standard of the World anymore... THAT is what plagues Cadillac...not for the lack of racing cars in 2016... They build a Ciel and build it right...people will come back... V Series Cadillacs have torn the 'Ring all right...people aren't exactly breaking down the door to own a Cadillac...

I think this pic drives my point home... And to compare... In my eyes, just a stubby blob the Bentley is... The Benz dont fare any better...although its less stubby and blobby but jelly beany uninspiring non-the-less... In my eyes at least.

For me...I dont know... The Bentley convertible looks like a blob. Nothing grand about it exterior wise that makes me feel like a king of England...Its a Bentley for Christ's sake... The Mercedes convertible. Its awright...but it dont make me feel anymore special either. That is why I chose the 4 door sedan version. The 4door Sedan S Class is a grand car. The Bentley Mulsanne is OK too, but if I owned Trump Towers and Trump Plaza along with a casino or two, honestly, with an ego that goes with slapping my name on everything, a Mulsanne wouldnt do either... There is something about classic luxury American land yachts that exude that necessary elitism that goes with those high price tags but they those big ole land yachts have that certain je ne sais quoi arrogance that I look for. Mercedes from time to time succeeds in mimicking Classic Cadillacs, Lincolns and Chryslers, but sometimes they dont. Rolls Royce and Bentley, the modern ones, have too much German DNA in them...VW and BMW have no clue how to channel their arrogant management ways to style their cars. The old Rolls and Bentleys had the English pompousness and snootiness that worked well in their designs and their marketing... 'adequate power' levels is just as powerful a marketing tool that seduces me as much as big fins and huge chromed bumpers or sleek, low, long, straight lines of a Lincoln Continental... Sure, modern tech and materials beat the crap outta anything the 1960s gave us... But really, how could that blob Bentley compare to this? Cars like this you cruise around in....you dont drive fast, you want people to ogle you. The only reason people ogle the owners of Bentleys is that even regular folk know that Bentleys cost a ton of money to purchase...its the price tag that gets the attention, not the artistry of the lines of the car... That is why it was and still is super important that Cadillac gives us this: In other words. Neither the Bentley nor the Mercedes is majestic to my eyes. The price tag is certainly majestic, but not the looks.

It be awesome if it truly were different models... Its more or less the same bloody model... A 5 Series BMW is the 4 door. A 6 Series is the coupe, is based off of the 5 Series and its platform. Which is cool as the 6 Series looks nothing like the 5 Series...which is cool as odd numbers in the naming scheme equals 4 doors and even numbers constitute 2 doors....but, there is a 6 Series Grande Coupe which has, um, 4 doors...but that too is cool because like I said, the 6 Series looks nothing like the 5 Series, 4 doors or not... But it would be cooler still if this pleasant anomaly would only exist at the 5/6 Series level. The same madness happens with the 3 Series. Not cool. M-B does the same thing, and will get nuttier still if this rumor in the article is correct. I prefer when GM did it their way. Somehow GM's badge job engineering made more sense than the madness we are witnessing with M-B and BMW... With GM, we often got 4-5 different names but twas 1 car...yet it seems less mad GM's way.. @Frisky Dingo That 1st gen CLS is just mind blowin good. It is also the first of a trend that even mainstream family haulin' sedans are copying, Trendsetting awesomeness!!!

I loooooove this gen CLS as much as the 1st gen. I have a feeling I will love the next gen as well. The W211 E class was the last E Class I liked. AMG on the CLS and on the S Class is what I lust over at Mercedes Benz. And that is as far as it goes for me for Mercedes Benz in 2016 for me. The SLS for me was OK. I liked it. But had I been a billionaire, I dont think Id buy one. Aston Martin or Lamborghini or Ferrari would get my money over the SLS. If I understood correctly...1 car, 2 different names...separated by trim level and performance? Why the need to separate the car into 2 names?

Whatever the case may be... As we all know, cars more often than not, are a depreciating asset. When I went to school, in high school even...high school accounting economics class taught us to amortize depreciating assets... People today dont amortize their stuff properly and its MANDATORY to do it right on cars.... Meaning.... The first step is to not buy toooooo much car than needed or afforded The second step is to buy second hand if new is not feasible. The third step is to NEVER EXCEED A MONTH LOAN MORE THAN 48 months....... And if possible, take advantage of 0.9% or 1.9% financing... The forth step is to keep that car up until it dies The fifth step is to properly maintain the car The sixth step is to keep in mind that cars need fixin and that means it takes money The seventh step is to NOT buy other junk when you are tight with money such as upgrading your cell phone every 6 months and to buy the latest fashion trends and to continually buy 6 dollar lattes at Starbucks... Meaning... Dont buy/lease Impala when Cruze is what could be afforded. And even then, buy Sonic if even a Cruze is toooo much car... Cruze and Sonic too small? Then a USED Impala should do.... OK....there are MANY options today, no need to buy Impala when specials on Accord is available or to even buy used when sooooo many cars from sooooo many manufactures exist but then again, the used car market is flooded and so forth and so forth.... Bottom line is: People dont AMORTIZE PROPERLY ANYMORE.... THEREFORE, I might sound self righteous...but I amortize properly. Back in 2007....I owned 2 restaurants.... In 2005 I bought a $40 000 CDN Impala SS. In 2007, I bought a 32 000 Ford Edge base model. In 2009, the current restaurant I own helped in keeping the other restaurant afloat. It was bleeding money and the 1st restaurant's profits were used to pay the 2nd restaurant's bills. I couldnt afford the 2007 Ford Edge. I downsized to a 2009 Mazda 3 base model. I did not have time to amortize the Edge properly but I had put a substantial down payment on it and when I traded it in for the Mazda, all I did was lower my payments to 200 dollars less per month, increased my loan to just 6 months more than I would have for the Edge, and at that....the loan for the Edge was just a 48 month loan.... People are dumb with their money and they make dumb decisions with their money and while we could blame Corporations and banks that make it all too easy for the fools to part with their money, the REAL problem concerning this upside down thing rest SOLELY on the CONSUMER. Yes yes. Life happens and sometimes we have NO CHOICE to end up upside down.... I aint talking about THAT situation.... I am talking about when people DECIDE ALL BY THEMSELVES TO NOT AMORTIZE their purchases properly..... And in 2016, there are a shtye load of people in that category...

LOL. 1. I did answer the question at hand. I truly do prefer the S600 Guard over the Bentley, but...I prefer the older American cars over both... 2. That Lincoln, the smog choked one from the 70s, is probably LS swapped...so...it aint smog choked...

Me and you...we are similar in thoughts....its scary. I was watching a CNN special(s) the other day on the 70s and 80s... 5 or 6 one hour long episodes on each decade....half way through one of those was interrupted to mention Castro's passing...anyway... Regan... I was disgusted by him from those episodes...Rest in Peace Mr. Regan non the less...when I heard the documentary kept stressing the fact that HE KEPT STRESSING that the USSR is EVIL... OK...back then I hated the USSR...but I was naive...but I was also a teenager... Imagine how regular average Dimitri (Joe) Russians thought of us and our shytty ways everytime Regan called them evil... Irony...visions of Donald Trump insulting tirades IMMEDIATELY came to my mind... So yeah...I share your thoughts on that... Oh...I just realized de-regulation that he made opened up the door for Wallstreet greed that is stll alive and well today... OK...I dont know if de-regulation was the way to go to get America out of that economic rut, it did work, but a WORSE can of worms opened up... Sorry for the political post.. Regarding car styling... The expensive cars, the so-called luxury stuff...well...other than Aston Martin and the odd M-B CLS 4DOOR COUPE and BMW M6 Grand Coupe, no modern car tugs at my passions. I actually prefer the mainstream stylings of cars today rather than the expensive cars...BMW, M-B, Audi, Lexus, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Porsche (Panamera), Bugatti...all blah!!!

Here. Here is another American land yacht Id rather... If Im gonna spend a ton of money on a ride, I might as well choose something that has style and says to the receiving party that awaits my arrival: "Hey! I'M HERE!"

I want stylish cars to continue...if 4 door coupes is what it takes then HOORAY!!! I remember a time when this rolling crap roamed the planet of America. Let us present a VW product also during this same disgusting era of automobiles Bricks on wheels This is funny to me as it was during the 1980s that Mr. Ronald Reagan told Mr. Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev: I dont know what all this means, with all that bricks and walls coming down, but I really dont want to go back to the 1980s automotive styling....sure there were some nice cars around, most were FUGLY. I AM FULLY GRATEFUL WITH 4 DOOR COUPES ROAMING AROUND!!!

Never liked a Bentley. Especially these modern ones. I would take a 4 door S Class AMG. Bullet proof and bomb proof version... The S600 Guard.... But ultimately Id rather a classic restomod American land yacht from Cadillac or Lincoln or Oldsmobile..

While I agree with what Mr. DFELT and CCAP, I personally will ALWAYS put the onus on the BUYER... WHY? Because he/she shoudnt be buying or leasing, especially leasing, new cars regularly if he/she cannot afford them. Leasing is good for some people, for most though, it shoudnt even be a thought let alone an action. If people PREFER to bite off more than they could chew, let them choke... Sure, banks and finance people and dealerships want to make money and morally they shoudnt take advantage of these people, but...this still falls under the responsibility of a consumer being responsible of his/her own finances... Personally, I have some cash saved up in my bank account(s)...I CANNOT wait when interest rates sky rocket again so I could start making money off my hard work and smart consumer choices with my savings... And no....while I do have some investments going on, I refuse to do heavy "investments" as greed fuels the dudes controlling the investment industry and I dont want any shyster telling me: "yo dude, the market had a hiccup today and poof, your money is gone..." I remember the crazy '80s all too well...and sure enough, history repeated itself 20 short years later... If somebody wants to keep up with the Jones-es and they end up hurting...not my problem.....and why do I feel like that? Because while its great to have low interest rates when I buy big ticket items for myself...at this point in my life, it would be better if high interest rates would be available to me for the money I have earned and saved, high interest rates dont exist because it protects those fools that part with their money easily... @A Horse With No Name I dont know why the need to change a good working car so often... Then again I do... Image and status and shyte... Vanity is a sin....but then again, who listens to HIM anyway?

Im having a rough time with this. 1. 1974 Pontiac Trans Am Why 1974. Because she was rated at 290 HP with the 455 SD as the 1973 is rated above the cut off point. The 1977-1979 Trans Ams barely made 200. Its kind of a blur but I still get to have a 455 big block V8 with 290 horsies...I get the pre-catalytic converter mess too and while the shaker hood was not functional, I could remove the back plate easily... 2. 1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS. 260 Horsepower. 3. E39 BMW 540i 4.4 V8 rated between 282 and 291 HP. Saw one the other day in mint condition and I wanted it so bad!!! (you did not read that last part) 4. 1st generation Oldsmobile Aurora 4.0 V8 250 HP 5. 1987 Buick Grand National GNX Rated at 276 HP

Jeep SRT I said...as a joke.... You did say you missed the first 4Runner you had. I had that 4Runner in my mind when I mentioned the Jeep SRT.... Well good for you for going back to it!!!

I agree. There was a purpose for Acura in the 1990s. It destroyed single handedly (let us not talk about GM's blunders and just praise Acura's raison d'etre in the 1990s) Oldsmobile and Pontiac and even Mercury carving out its own identity and put its own stamp of what a sport luxury doctor's car should be. Oldsmobile was known for its technology in the past and Acura just ripped into Oldsmobile's reputation big time... Today though, Acura seems more lost and Honda spinning its wheels with Acura worse than Oldsmobile and GM were in the 1990s. At least Oldsmobile had some great trends going on to try to compete with Acura in the 1990s but the Acura juggernaut was too big for Oldsmobile to handle...GM had SAAB and FIAT and SATURN on their plate to really give Oldsmobile a boost with Aurora, Northstar and Shortstar but at least Oldsmobile was on the right track with the Aurora 1st gen, Intrigue, Alero, and OK with the last edition of Bravada and Aurora. Acura's raison d'etre is non-existent in 2016. Its an also ran brand. Its a me too car company lost in the shuffle. I dont like the TLX. Its bland, boring, stale. An Accord seems like a better buy. Other than the SH-AWD and PAWS techs, there is no other reason to consider an Acura product over a Honda product. Ditto with the ILX. The Civic is a more livelier product. Fun. Exciting to drive. Just as nice of an interior.... My Acura TL drives like a FWD car. Its heavy... I dont mind it. Its a fine cruiser. Acura's were never cruisers. They were light on their feet. Hey....the SH-AWD makes the car dance around corners, but the problem is, the drive itself does not make you want to make the car dance around a corner. The driving dynamics of it does not inspire continual dancing around corners... Like I said....I....me...myself....I am not a driving around a corner type guy, but that is what Acura's were known for....fun driving dynamics...Acura lost that. I havent driven the TLX, but I cant stand its looks. So I avoid it in the showroom. In fact. Im bored in the Acura showroom so I dont stay there anymore.

Yeah but.... We Greeks PHILOSOPHIZE EVERYTHING.... mostly the change... mostly the change... As soon as we seen fit that maybe we should change and adapt....we cease to be....um...conservative... We have delved into the world of...liberal... And...quite honestly...we HUMANS ALWAYS SEEM TO CHANGE AND ADAPT SOMEHOW...whether religiously or politically... Im keeping this discussion only between us...we are both Greek. We tend to jab each other's Greekness and I like for us to keep that going...Im having fun with you when we do it. Im not insulted by it and I hope you are not insulted by it either. I actually do like you Wings...you are Greek after all. We have to stay together.... From a Greek point of view... From this: We went to this: Like a total 180 degree turn. Gone were Gods of Lust and Orgies and Gods of War to peace and love and not covet thy neighbors wife.... And we changed overnight as it seems... The Romans had a harder time letting go of our 12 Gods than we did to become Christians. They even fed us to the lions several centuries after Jesus was Crucified... The Greek Orthodox Church has accepted divorce. King Henri VIII had to invent his own religion for that. Yet the Greek Orthodox Church is marching along quite nicely adapting...even after the Ottoman Empire nearly destroyed us.... In fact, 'twas the Greek Orthodox Church that saved us....minus a few Greek Orthodox religious traitors, they were educated enough to keep our language and culture alive...you could argue conservative for the last part.... But... When we have philosophized all the negatives and all the positives of EVERY single type of ruler-ship be it democracy or totalitarianism or royalty and we have concluded that each has its benefits and downfalls and depending on what situation we are in...that my friend is LIBERAL thinking.....to adapt to our environment.... Socrates, Plato and Aristotle...and others all have concluded this thousands of years ago.... So...I repeat...Greeks were never, are not, nor will they ever be conservative...it aint in our DNA.

Usually I get a good feel from you prior to your announcement. This time around, I have no clue how your thought process has been because we havent communicated enough. I have no idea where to begin. CUV? SUV? sports car? luxury car? FWD? RWD? Porsche Boxter? You mentioned in a Dream Garage thread that you wouldnt mind owning a base Porsche Boxter... Boxters are driver's cars and you are a "driver" kinda guy...you tend to look past dumb ass stereotypes and see a car for what it really is.... I go with Porsche Boxter. But winter time is almost upon us....is a Boxter really in your mindset right about now? For all I know, it could be a Jeep SRT of some sort... Ill keep the Boxter as my 1st guess and we will go from there.

We kept our family values, from the Ancient times. We've ALWAYS respected and trusted our divinities. Whether the 12 Gods of Olympus or The Holy Trinity. So that much is conservative... Its EVERYTHING else... We WERE NEVER AFRAID TO CHANGE AND INNOVATE. In fact, WE CHANGED AND INNOVATED THE WHOLE WESTERN SOCIETY AT ONE POINT IN TIME... AND WE DID THAT BY SHOWING AND SHARING OUR CULTURE TO OTHERS....MORE TO IT THAN THAT...WE EVEN TOOK OTHER CULTURES AND ADAPTED IT TO OUR OWN!!! We have VERY LIBERAL ideas of how to govern....We identified and philosophized many aspects of life including love and sex... Hell, we have written many many books on that several thousand years ago... And so much more philosophical stuff!!! Nah! We aint a conservative people! WE EMBRACE CHANGE... THAT IS WHY THERE ARE MORE GREEKS LIVING OUTSIDE OF GREECE IN OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE WE HAVE ADAPTED QUITE NICELY!!!

He is too conservative to laugh. Hell, he is sooooooo conservative and tight assed about holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion that he is reluctant to even grin... Yes Wings....I know what it means.... As per YOUR definition: holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion. See where it says RELIGION... I apologized for displaying such vulgar display of sexuality...you know....sex only for conservative procreation and not for fun.... And you know what is funny? GREEKS IN THEIR DNA WERE, ARE AND WILL NEVER BE CONSERVATIVE..unless of course these Greeks want to suppress and forget what we really are...and pretend to be something that we are not... The Greek Orthodox Church....may be the ONLY place that we are conservative in.... Yet....we know what the sins are, but we also know what our history was all about and we wink wink, nudge nudge our way to Paradise when we die because we also know deep down inside that we have a zest for life....KEFI...

A joke in clown shoes.... I HAPPEN TO LOOOOOOOVE CLOWN SHOES. Very stylish and versatile. I resent a comment like that! When I go out to eat a couple of burgers Chez Mickey Dee's when I go out dancin' with the wife When I play basketball with my homeys When Im chillin and relaxin' My combat boots back in 'Nam

My world's magnetic poles have been reversed. Back in the day, some of my friends were ricer guys and these guys loooooved a Honda Civic while I hated them and the car for it... I still talk to some of these guys from time to time and in 2016, they hate today's model while I LOOOOOVE it!!! They grew up and I did not? I wouldnt buy one, but I like it. Honda always marched to a beat of a different drum and it seems they have re-discovered that tune. Its refreshing. Now, if only Acura could do the same.