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Choosing your own categories to discredit another vehicle.. Value retention becomes discredited if it is low volume and has higher operating costs. What is the cost of ownership difference? What in the fck is "santanderconsumerusa.com" as a source? Over what span?

That would be any vehicle. It's impressive when the regular maintenance is getting skipped or pushed back tens of thousands of miles.

I'm just over here doing maths providing information. Numbers don't lie.

All of those brand new vehicles really get to show how well their value is retained 10-15 years down the road.. rEtAiNeD vAlUe

2007 GX $12,000/$46,000 = 26.1% retained value G500 $30,000/$84,000 = 35.7% retained value It doesn't have its scarcity simply to hold its value. At least until the brand new 2019's, it was still hand built. Mercedes isn't selling them at a low volume so their customers can have a slightly higher resale value. I've never heard of that before on a non-limited run vehicle.

Agree to disagree. An 8-12k mid 2000's GX hasn't held its value any better than a G Wagen.

I 100% agree. I wasn't bringing up the G Wagen though...

It might have dropped a lot in that 4-year span but they seem to hold their value pretty well. There are plenty of examples of 80-150k+ mile examples of the early-mid 2000's G500's still asking $30-40k. FWIW, 115k was the MSRP in 2015 and there aren't really options on a G Wagen. It's either a 550 or an AMG so it's roughly a 35% loss. I think the only options are exterior and interior colors. Yeah the G Wagen is actually kind of small to today's SUV standards. Personally, I think it is about perfectly sized.

Isn't the GLE, X5 and Q7 about as direct of competitors as they get?

+1 I've had it twice and I don't hate it but I don't love it. It's overpriced for how it tastes, imo.

That Navigator looks soooooo bad. With or without the hearse part, that was an ugly generation.

This seems right up Cadillac's alley, confusing consumers...

Not everything is trolling. Joking around shouldn't be considered trolling but I'm no internet king and maybe it is. ??‍♂️ It obviously has something to do with feelings. It upset you. I'm sorry I said something to upset you. I'll try and be more considerate of your feelings in the future.

The Trump/Surreal comment was funny. It was a double whammy that I thought everybody else would enjoy. I guess I should have thought about your feelings as well. "... Not going to dwell on it." *Brings it up again*

You mean to say if a comment wasn't quoting or directly at somebody then it was merely a comment? Take note of your own comment. You take things people say like they're directed at you. You just assume they're directly at you.

Okay so they dropped the base trim for 2019 along with the 2.0T(which is why it's 63k on their site now) and for 2020 they are bringing back the base trim(dropping the price some) but not the 2.0T, right? Or am I still getting that incorrect?

Yeah, but you said the price rose to $59,900 but it already is over that?

Why does their website show a different starting price? They should have dropped the 3.6 and detuned or tuned the 3.0 to any number they wanted that had more than 300tq. 350/350 seems easy enough.

The more times you are able to split a hair the more efficient the hair has become.

No, it wasn't. 2007 F150 w/ 5.4 made 305hp/365tq 2007 Silverado w/ 6.0 made 322-360hp(depending what you bought)/373-382tq. 2007 Ram made 345hp/375tq These were all the biggest baddest versions at the time. Yeah, the Merc 5.5L was 380ish but I don't think 301 would be considered dated in 2007.

And the 2020 E Class isn't a a taxi car yet either. More powerful with more overhangs as well. Thank god that abomination of a luxury car is over and done with in October.

October. Go on, continue to argue.. Nothing new here.

It is still 2019 and it is still for sale and it is still being produced. I'm confused how that can even be a disagreement.